Claude Posted September 16, 2007 Report Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) I've noticed that many less popular OJC titles are no longer available from big stores (Amazon, CD Universe, etc) or only through Marketplace sellers (at rarity prices), but they are still being shown on the Concord website as being available within 3-5 days (when you put them into the shopping cart). Are these really available from Concord, and if yes, why don't the other stores have them? Some examples: - Music to listen to Red Norvo by - Don Friedman - A day in the city - This Is Walt Dickerson Edited September 16, 2007 by Claude Quote
Swinging Swede Posted September 16, 2007 Report Posted September 16, 2007 I've seen many CDs priced $50-100 on Amazon Marketplace, which were indeed OOP but could still be found at regular price elsewhere. Maybe those Marketplace sellers are counting on someone who needs the disc urgently, and who is willing to pay premium price. I bet those $100 CDs will remain unsold for months or even years. Sometimes those premium price copies can be found among other marketplace copies going for much less. I think these sellers are simpy waiting for other copies to sell out (which could happen rather fast for OOP titles), after which their copies will be the only option. I have to wonder though if a +300€ copy ever will be sold. Quote
Swinging Swede Posted September 16, 2007 Report Posted September 16, 2007 I've noticed that many less popular OJC titles are no longer available from big stores (Amazon, CD Universe, etc) or only through Marketplace sellers (at rarity prices), but they are still being shown on the Concord website as being available within 3-5 days (when you put them into the shopping cart). Are these really available from Concord, and if yes, why don't the other stores have them? Some examples: - Music to listen to Red Norvo by - Don Friedman - A day in the city - This Is Walt Dickerson It is my understanding that they do have copies remaining of these titles, but only a very limited amount, and have no plans of repressing them, so perhaps they are thinking that they earn more by selling the last copies directly to customers than by selling them to Amazon. Either that or they once again don't know what they are doing (like releasing Kirk's Work twice within a few months)! Quote
bertrand Posted September 16, 2007 Report Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) Like Claude, I noticed the titles that were gone from everywhere except the Concord site. Since almost all titles were also on sale ($3 or $4 off depending), and since shipping is free after $50, I thought I'd make a try so I ordered these five titles last Saturday: This is Walt Dickerson! Don Friedman: A Day In The City Ernie Henry: Seven Standards And A Braxton Tune George Wallington: New York Scene Jenkins/Jordan/Timmons All five titles were at my door Thursday. Now I just need to listen to them! The moral of the story: it looks like Concord is liquidating the titles that are running low. They may have 3 copies, they may have 100. The site doesn't say. Since everything is on sale right now (for how long?), and since shipping over $50 is free, I plan to make one more order next month, although the five titles above were the ones I was most eager to get. Then there are some good deals at Newbury Comics (although not these five). I wonder if the discounts mean another blow-out sale is brewing... Bertrand. Edited September 16, 2007 by bertrand Quote
street singer Posted September 16, 2007 Report Posted September 16, 2007 I was motivated by this thread to check out the Concord site for some of the increasingly hard-to-find titles...and I'm glad I did! Here's what I just ordered: Don Patterson - Dem New York Blues Lem Winchester - Another Opus Lem Winchester - Winchester Special Teddy Charles - Evolution Art Farmer/Donald Byrd - Three Trumpets Johnny Griffin - The Kerry Dancers Jackie McLean - Alto Madness Jackie McLean - Jackie's Pal Dizzy Reece - Asia Minor Don Wilkerson - The Texas Twister It hadn't even occurred to me to check the Concord site for some of these titles. These are all listed as being "in stock" - hopefully they'll actually have some of them. I'll report back once I receive the order to let you guys know what arrived... Much appreciation to Claude and Bertrand for bringing this to my (and everyone else's) attention! Quote
bertrand Posted September 16, 2007 Report Posted September 16, 2007 The Alto Madness reissue is annoying: there is an extra track from this session ('Bird Feathers') which is only on the compilation CD of the same name. It was left off the LP due to space issues, but there was plenty of room on the CD Asia Minor is great, BTW. Let us know if any of these are not in stock. Three Trumpets was going to be in my next order. Bertrand. Quote
Big Al Posted September 16, 2007 Report Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) FWIW, I placed an order with Tower/Caiman last week for the following OJCs: Cal Tjader - Tjader Plays Mambo Cal Tjader - Mambo with Tjader Blue Mitchell - Out of the Blue Blue Mitchell - Big 6 Blue Mitchell - The Cup Bearers Blue Mitchell - Blue's Moods Montgomery Brothers - Groove Yard Kenny Dorham - Jazz Contrasts (Keepnews Series) Every one of them arrived yesterday. Don't know if this is a fluke, but I'll definitely order from them again! Hell, the J&R order I placed at the same time (for a bunch of Blue Note RVG's) isn't scheduled to ship until tomorrow! A full eight days after I placed the order!!! Edited September 16, 2007 by Big Al Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted September 17, 2007 Report Posted September 17, 2007 The stuff I'm looking for doesn't seem so hard to find. I ordered a bunch of OJCs from my endless list from various sellers (mostly Thermite UK) on Amazon UK last night. Nat Adderley – Branching out Nat Adderley – In the bag Kenny Burrell – Soul call Eddie “Lockjaw” Davis & Johnny Griffin – Battle stations Eddie “Lockjaw” Davis & Johnny Griffin – Tough tenors Shirley Scott – Blue seven Red Garland – Bright and breezy Buck Clayton & Buddy Tate – Buck and Buddy Buck Clayton & Buddy Tate – Buck and Buddy blow the bues Junior Mance – Junior’s blues Coleperson Hawkins – The Hawk relaxes All between dead cheap and reasonably cheap (by British standards). About fifty quid the lot (inc postage). MG Quote
Free For All Posted September 17, 2007 Report Posted September 17, 2007 Junior Mance – Junior’s blues Coleperson Hawkins – The Hawk relaxes Junior Personce Quote
street singer Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 Happy to report back that all the titles I ordered recently arrived today. Can't wait to spin those Lem Winchester discs! Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 The stuff I'm looking for doesn't seem so hard to find. I ordered a bunch of OJCs from my endless list from various sellers (mostly Thermite UK) on Amazon UK last night. Nat Adderley – Branching out Nat Adderley – In the bag Kenny Burrell – Soul call Eddie “Lockjaw” Davis & Johnny Griffin – Battle stations Eddie “Lockjaw” Davis & Johnny Griffin – Tough tenors Shirley Scott – Blue seven Red Garland – Bright and breezy Buck Clayton & Buddy Tate – Buck and Buddy Buck Clayton & Buddy Tate – Buck and Buddy blow the bues Junior Mance – Junior’s blues Coleperson Hawkins – The Hawk relaxes All between dead cheap and reasonably cheap (by British standards). About fifty quid the lot (inc postage). MG Only 2 have turned up so far. But it might be interesting to note that "Branching out" does not appear to be in danger of the axe; my copy was a European Universal issue (and the cheapest of the bunch, I think). And a blindingly good album! MG Quote
Niko Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 Only 2 have turned up so far. But it might be interesting to note that "Branching out" does not appear to be in danger of the axe; my copy was a European Universal issue (and the cheapest of the bunch, I think). And a blindingly good album! here we had a list of these universal reissues... http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...amp;hl=jazzecho Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 Only 2 have turned up so far. But it might be interesting to note that "Branching out" does not appear to be in danger of the axe; my copy was a European Universal issue (and the cheapest of the bunch, I think). And a blindingly good album! here we had a list of these universal reissues... http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...amp;hl=jazzecho Ah, my PC was in the menders at the time, so I didn't see it. Thanks Niko. MG Quote
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