randyhersom Posted September 4, 2007 Report Posted September 4, 2007 Every time you listen to an ECM record, Keith Jarrett cries. And cries. And groans. And cries. By the way, I'm a big Keith Jarrett music fan. All in fun. Quote
ghost of miles Posted September 4, 2007 Report Posted September 4, 2007 Just don't try to take a picture of him. I'm going to look for that Maupin when I hit my local shop here in an hour or so. Quote
mikeweil Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 (edited) Just found out they changed the Maupin cover art : I found the collage so charming ..... Edited September 6, 2007 by mikeweil Quote
Claude Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 OK, the old cover art wasn't great, but the new one is extremely dull even for ECM standards. Quote
ghost of miles Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 Jason at Landlocked Records here in town says Oct. 23 on the Maupin. Quote
Guy Berger Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Posted September 5, 2007 That's blasphemy. Guy Quote
Peter Johnson Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 Seriously. WTF??? That's blasphemy. Guy Quote
Chas Posted September 30, 2007 Report Posted September 30, 2007 Just found out they changed the Maupin cover art : I found the collage so charming ..... That's blasphemy. Blasphemy to jazz fans , but did Eicher and co. worry that the original cover might be blasphemous to Hindus and Buddhists ? Now granted , the lotus is associated with divinity , and Bennie is not a divine or sacred being , but neither is he depicted seated in lotus position , and anyway , isn't it only the Abrahamic religions that take such offense ? What else could possibly have motivated the change to that horrid cover ? Quote
Hoppy T. Frog Posted October 1, 2007 Report Posted October 1, 2007 isn't it only the Abrahamic religions that take such offense ? You should google the controversy in India over dredging the strait between India and Sri Lanka. Quote
mikeweil Posted November 1, 2007 Report Posted November 1, 2007 Bought the Maupin today - the remastering is very good. But I'll keep my LP if only for the cover ... Had a listen to the Redman, but wasn't in the mood. Quote
bertrand Posted November 2, 2007 Report Posted November 2, 2007 I'm so pissed off that they waited until Dewey was dead to reissue this that I can't see straight. This record is so brilliant that it could only have helped him in his career had it been reissued in his lifetime. Dewey asked them to reissue it several times, and they always blew him off. ECM is one fucked-up label, and Eicher is a jerk. Bertrand. Quote
mikeweil Posted November 2, 2007 Report Posted November 2, 2007 If you read between the lines of a Maupin interview a while back, you might notice, well, some almost resignative concern about the date of reissue ... Quote
bertrand Posted November 2, 2007 Report Posted November 2, 2007 At least Bennie can see this reissued in his lifetime. Dewey told me all the excuses they had and how they said they would never reissue it. That's just nasty. Charles Eubanks was there when we talked about it as well. I hope one day to further discuss this matter with him, and possibly with Mark Helias as well. Bertrand. Quote
bertrand Posted November 2, 2007 Report Posted November 2, 2007 Of course, I'm buying it the minute it comes out. I just wish I could redirect the money elsewhere than ECM. Quote
sal Posted November 2, 2007 Report Posted November 2, 2007 Just ordered both. They release here in the USA on Tuesday, Nov. 6. Quote
GregK Posted November 8, 2007 Report Posted November 8, 2007 are these actually released? Borders doesn't have them, and they usually get all of the ECMs Quote
brownie Posted November 8, 2007 Report Posted November 8, 2007 Been out in old Europe for the past two weeks Quote
Kari S Posted November 8, 2007 Report Posted November 8, 2007 maybe ECM thinks they will get more middle of the road mellow gentle ECM pat metheny keith jarrett listeners to purchase on a whim the maurpin if they removed the black man with beard and sunglasses from the cover and gave it a bland non-threatening cover to look like any old dave holland album, etc. This might have some truth to it... Eicher has done it before. One of the worst examples is Dave Liebman's DRUM ODE... Compare: I don't know, to me that Jewel In The Lotus "collage" cover always defined that LP. Regarding the music - I think I've always enjoyed the actual Mwandishi material more, not that this is bad or anything. Quote
mikeweil Posted November 8, 2007 Report Posted November 8, 2007 The re-designed covers show that corporate identity as it is now is more important than the more diversified it was back then ... Quote
king ubu Posted November 8, 2007 Report Posted November 8, 2007 The re-designed covers show that corporate identity as it is now is more important than the more diversified it was back then ... You certainly can't blame ECM for that development, that's rather all-encompassing nowadays... and the bad thing is that in music business it seems to only fasten the demise of the big corporations... and you can blame ECM for jumping that train, for sure! Anyway, still waiting for Sam Rivers' "Contrasts"! (There the original cover should be ok enough to be re-used, I assume...) Quote
sal Posted November 16, 2007 Report Posted November 16, 2007 Listening to "The Struggle Continues" right now for the first time. I'm really enjoying it! Some of the tunes on here are surprisingly "straight ahead". Now, I'm sure I haven't heard as much of Dewey as many of you here, but based on the stuff I've heard with Ornette, Keith Jarrett, Old and New Dreams, and some of his sessions as a leader, this is one of his most accessible recordings overall. Not that that's a bad thing at all! Just Dewey in a different light than what I'm used to hearing from him. I'm looking forward to listening to this one much more. Definitely recommended, especially if you're new to Dewey or if you're generally averse to more "adventurous" jazz. Anyways, "The Jewel and the Lotus" is shipping today from CD Universe. Can't wait to hear that one! Quote
7/4 Posted November 16, 2007 Report Posted November 16, 2007 Maybe they lost the artwork and were not happy with the attempts to recreate it. Quote
sal Posted November 21, 2007 Report Posted November 21, 2007 Does anyone else think the track "Excursion" from The Jewel In the Lotus is terrifying? Quote
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