Bluesnik Posted July 9, 2007 Report Posted July 9, 2007 (edited) have you heard about Herbie Hancock's Hear O Israel 1969 sabbath album? it's being reissued in a short run in the UK. don't know if that's cause for rejoice or just a pain in the ass. of course that nutter Johnny Trunk's behind it and that should be enough guarantee, but ... and it seems to be already causing waves among collectors. i haven't heard it and doubt i will. but for Hancock completists it could be a find. the lineup's also not bad. Hear o Israel and while you're there you can also find out about a lost Michael Garrick LP. that one might be more interesting, i reckon. at least the story is interesting. Michael Garrick Edited July 9, 2007 by Bluesnik Quote
mikeweil Posted July 9, 2007 Report Posted July 9, 2007 If that record is nearly as curiosity evoking as the remainder of their catalogue ..... Quote
sidewinder Posted July 9, 2007 Report Posted July 9, 2007 Anything Johnny puts out on vinyl is as good as sold to me. Just noticed this on the Trunk site - looks very interesting indeed. The Garrick 'Moonscape' LP is only out for a week or so and already sold out on Trunk's site. That one is a beauty so snap it up if you can find it. Quote
mikeweil Posted July 9, 2007 Report Posted July 9, 2007 Reading the personnel, that Hancock could be a sequel to Speak Like A Child - without the religious texts and vocals, that is. Herbie Hancock - piano Jerome Richardson - flute, tenor and alto sax Grady Tate – drums Thad Jones – trumpet and flugelhorn Ron Carter – bass Jonathan Klein – French horn and baritone (horn?) Quote
JSngry Posted July 10, 2007 Report Posted July 10, 2007 Put out some feelers for some background info, and here's what I got back: Recorded in 1968. Jonathan Klein was commissioned by the National Federation Of Temple Youth to compose a suite. His mom was dating Herbie at the time and asked him to create a band to play the music. It's ok with some nice Herbie solos.... Quote
Guy Berger Posted July 10, 2007 Report Posted July 10, 2007 Recorded in 1968. Jonathan Klein was commissioned by the National Federation Of Temple Youth to compose a suite. His mom was dating Herbie at the time and asked him to create a band to play the music. I knew some people in college that had been NFTY members. IIRC it's affiliated with the Reform Movement. Guy Quote
bertrand Posted July 10, 2007 Report Posted July 10, 2007 (edited) I wonder if they could have reissued it with the narration edited out Edited July 10, 2007 by bertrand Quote
etherbored Posted July 10, 2007 Report Posted July 10, 2007 The Garrick 'Moonscape' LP is only out for a week or so and already sold out on Trunk's site. That one is a beauty so snap it up if you can find it. i'm a big trunk fan and have a good number of them, but this one has me baffled. can you expound on this date, side? Quote
sidewinder Posted July 10, 2007 Report Posted July 10, 2007 The Garrick 'Moonscape' LP is only out for a week or so and already sold out on Trunk's site. That one is a beauty so snap it up if you can find it. i'm a big trunk fan and have a good number of them, but this one has me baffled. can you expound on this date, side? 'Moonscape' was recorded by Garrick back in 1964 prior to his Argo albums and done as a private issue - 99 copies only on 10" LP. Johnny Trunk got hold of one of these rarities and with master tapes gone and with Garrick's OK - has reissued the session on CD and limited 12" vinyl (500 copies). It's a nice date, not unlike his Argo trio on 'Cold Mountain' I guess but with a 'fresher' feel typical of the early 60s. In that respect it reminds me of the Rendell/Carr 'Shades of Blue'. The original LP was recorded and issued by the obscure Airborne label - sound is not the greatest I guess but I find it quite adequate. Quote
dave9199 Posted July 11, 2007 Report Posted July 11, 2007 I thought it was Hancock covering Black Sabbath songs! Quote
JSngry Posted July 11, 2007 Report Posted July 11, 2007 Just to reiterate - none of the music on the Hancock side is composed by Herbie. Quote
mikeweil Posted July 11, 2007 Report Posted July 11, 2007 (edited) so it's all composed by Jonathan Klein? What style? Edited July 11, 2007 by mikeweil Quote
robert h. Posted July 11, 2007 Report Posted July 11, 2007 (edited) The idea of marketing this as a "lost Herbie Hancock" recording is VERY deceptive. Obviously Hancock is the biggest name on the record, but he is simply one of the hired session players on a session more appropriately described as a Union for Reform Judaism secular recording starring Rabbi David Davis with arrangements by Jonathan Klein and band members including Hancock, Carter, etc.. But - that wouldn't sell more than 8 copies. Hardly a sequel to Speak Like A Child...I guess if you stretch it far enough, maybe they could call it "Speak Like A Mensch" ... Edited July 11, 2007 by robert h. Quote
JSngry Posted July 11, 2007 Report Posted July 11, 2007 so it's all composed by Jonathan Klein? What style? No idea. Quote
Stereojack Posted July 11, 2007 Report Posted July 11, 2007 I came across this record several years ago. Marketing it as a Herbie Hancock album is a gross deception. All of the music was composed by the teenage Jonathan Klein, with Herbie and the others performing Klein's music, which I would describe as jazz inflected Jewish religious music. I didn't think it was worth keeping, and I doubt many others will think so either. Quote
bertrand Posted July 11, 2007 Report Posted July 11, 2007 Something doesn't add up - I'm pretty sure that by 1968, Herbie was already married. Didn't Ian Carr's book say that he left Miles' band in '68 and went on his honeymoon (Mexico or Brazil?) and got food poisoning? Bertrand. Quote
sidewinder Posted July 11, 2007 Report Posted July 11, 2007 Something doesn't add up - I'm pretty sure that by 1968, Herbie was already married. Didn't Ian Carr's book say that he left Miles' band in '68 and went on his honeymoon (Mexico or Brazil?) and got food poisoning? Bertrand. Yes, and the 'Speak Like A Child' cover is of him and his new wife, I believe. Quote
sidewinder Posted July 11, 2007 Report Posted July 11, 2007 I came across this record several years ago. Marketing it as a Herbie Hancock album is a gross deception. All of the music was composed by the teenage Jonathan Klein, with Herbie and the others performing Klein's music, which I would describe as jazz inflected Jewish religious music. I didn't think it was worth keeping, and I doubt many others will think so either. Hmm. Thanks for that. It will be a case of checking sound samples before picking up this one I think. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 11, 2007 Report Posted July 11, 2007 Anything Johnny puts out on vinyl is as good as sold to me. Just noticed this on the Trunk site - looks very interesting indeed. The Garrick 'Moonscape' LP is only out for a week or so and already sold out on Trunk's site. That one is a beauty so snap it up if you can find it. I need to snap this up... and Flexi Sex, too! Quote
sidewinder Posted July 11, 2007 Report Posted July 11, 2007 (edited) I need to snap this up... and Flexi Sex, too! Just given 'Moonscape' the nth spin since picking it up and I can say you won't be disappointed. Not often I get a spare vinyl on new releases but I have for this one. I've heard exerpts from the 'Flexi-Sex' and it is hilarious. Basically recitations of dirty mac brigade letters sent in to porn mags back in the 70s. Trunk also did a limited T-shirt with exerpts from some of those letters but it sold out fast. Wear that one at your peril ! There's a £4.99 10-year anniversary sampler just come out with tracks from the 'Dirty Fan Mail', 'Moonscape' and the Herbie - must get that one. Edited July 11, 2007 by sidewinder Quote
mikeweil Posted July 11, 2007 Report Posted July 11, 2007 I think I will skip that Sabbath disc .... Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 12, 2007 Report Posted July 12, 2007 Got the Garrick today in a shop here. The owners, who I'm friends with, were kinda surprised I was so pumped to buy it. "Piano trio? Some British guy?" What do they know... Quote
Shannon Dickey Posted July 12, 2007 Report Posted July 12, 2007 (edited) Hey Clifford, The "Flexi-Sex" material IZ funny AND cool to boot (or to knock boot's to!!). Dig it! --- HB Edited July 12, 2007 by Horny Blowsitt Quote
Shawn Posted July 12, 2007 Report Posted July 12, 2007 I think I will skip that Sabbath disc .... I would recommend this one instead.... Quote
sidewinder Posted July 14, 2007 Report Posted July 14, 2007 (edited) I need to snap this up... and Flexi Sex, too! Looks like it's OOP (the 'Flexi' that is). "Also included are Tantalising Tina, Rosey and Nobby, Sonias Sex Diary, Folky Fenella from Dorset ( ) whose real name is Eydie.." Me wants ! Edited July 14, 2007 by sidewinder Quote
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