paul secor Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 Mingus: Mingus in Wonderland Yes!!! This one is occasionally listed as Jazz Portraits. Guy You're right - corrected Quote
J Larsen Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 That's not the strategy that private equity firms like TF take. They are typically looking for a quick flip rather than trying to build a long term plan for success. This usually means, among other things, cutting back or eliminating low-return operations (which the BN reissue program, which is essentially a large catalog of relatively low-sellers, is certainly an example of). Quote
paul secor Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 Some more: Thelonious Monk Quartet with John Coltrane at Carnegie Hall Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane: Live at the Five spot Lennie Tristano & Warne Marsh; Intuition Count Basie: Atomic Basie & one I like even better: Count Basie: Chairman of the Board 1969 All Star White House Tribute to Duke Ellington Albert Ammons & Meade Lux Lewis: The First Day Konitz Meets Mulligan Cecil Taylor: Jazz Advance Cecil Taylor: Love for Sale Ellington/Mingus/Roach: Money Jungle Charlie Parker: Bird at the Hi-Hat Bud Powell: Bud Plays Bird Diz 'n Bird at Carnegie Hall and a couple of ringers: Lenny Bruce: The Carnegie Hall Concert Hoagy Carmichael: Hoagy Sings Carmichael Quote
T.D. Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 Another oddly non-RVGd BN: Ike Quebec Blue and Sentimental. Quote
Eric Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 That's not the strategy that private equity firms like TF take. They are typically looking for a quick flip rather than trying to build a long term plan for success. This usually means, among other things, cutting back or eliminating low-return operations (which the BN reissue program, which is essentially a large catalog of relatively low-sellers, is certainly an example of). Got it. That is too bad then. Quote
Guy Berger Posted May 30, 2007 Author Report Posted May 30, 2007 Cecil Taylor: Jazz Advance Cecil Taylor: Love for Sale I haven't heard it yet but I assume we should add Coltrane Time (under Coltrane's name in the reissues) Quote
paul secor Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 (edited) Remembered two more: Serge Chaloff: Boston Blow Up Lester Young & Sarah Vaughan: One Night Stand - The Town Hall Concert 1947 (Thanks to Larry Kart for bringing it to our, or at least, my attention.) Edited May 30, 2007 by paul secor Quote
J Larsen Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 Cecil Taylor: Jazz Advance Cecil Taylor: Love for Sale I haven't heard it yet but I assume we should add Coltrane Time (under Coltrane's name in the reissues) I'm surprised you haven't heard it, and you should get it just because - but it is a bummer of a session. Quote
BruceH Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 Also Chico Hamilton's "Original Ellington Suite" featuring Eric Dolphy (the one thought lost and not included - except for three edited glimpses - as part of the Hamilton Mosaic). Good call! A big favorite. Complete Navarro/Dameron sessions. Yes! The Stan Getz Roost 3CD set is also a great one! In the same series, the great Herbie Nichols, and the Lee Morgan Lighthouse boxes are recommended as well! You're battin' 1.000 my friend! Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 Well, I think the position of as yet unreleased items is looking even gloomier than the currently available stuff, but these are my favourits among those I THINK are stil available (I tend to lose interest in availability once I've bought an album ) Grant Green - Alive Fred Jackson - Hootin' n' tootin' Grant Green - Born to be blue Grant Green - Standards Grant Green - Complete quartets with Sonny Clark Lonne Smith - Club Mozambique Stanley Turrentine - Blue hour T-Bone Walker - Complete Capitol/Black & White (available?) Grant Green - Street of dreams Grant Green - Talkin' about Jimmy Smith - Smalls' Paradise Jimmy Smith - Chicken shack Jimmy Smith - Midnight special John Patton - Accent on the bluues John Patton - Memphis to New York spirit Grant Green - Green street Lou Donaldson - Alligato bogaloo Art Blakey - Birdland Grant Green - Green is beautiful Fela Kuti - Gentleman Fela Kuti - Confusion Ike Quebec - Heavy soul Ike Quebec - It might as well be spring Stanley Turrentine - Rough n' tumble Ike Quebec - Complete 45 sessions That'l do. As for the not yet reisued, theres Jimmy McGriff - Black pearl Jimmy McGriff & Junior Parker - Chicken fried soul Grant Green - Visions Grant Green - Shades of Green Grant Green - One unissued session Freddie Roach - One unissued session Les McCann - most of his PJ albums Sonny Stitt & Charles Kynard - My mother's eyes So there! MG Quote
BruceH Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 Serge Chaloff: Blue Serge Sidney Bechet: Best of Sidney Bechet Ellington: Piano Reflections If these go out of print, that's it! I'm swearing off music buying. Or just swearing. Quote
paul secor Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 There's a lot of good r&b, blues, & country in the EMI catalog also. I suppose the legal bootleggers in Europe will take over, but they won't have the master tapes and to me it won't be the same. I wonder what will become of those master tapes? Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 I'm more interested in the stuff the previous owners were too bone-headed to reissue all these years, and hoping it will finally come out. Quote
Late Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 These have been mentioned already, but they're of huge importance, muscially and historically, and if they go out-of-print, it'll be a sad day: • Lester Young: The Complete Aladdin Sessions • Gerry Mulligan Quartet with Chet Baker: The Pacific Jazz Sessions (or whatever the exact title is) If anyone's on the fence about these, I'd say pick 'em up now. If you don't like them, you might have fairly good resale value on your hands. ====== I wonder what will happen to the EMI classical catalog? Just a FYI in this regard — EMI has both a 20-bit and 24-bit line, often of the same recordings. While I haven't even come close to listening to that many duplicates, I actually prefer the 20-bit recordings so far, most of which (I think) are contained in their "Historical" series. You can find a complete list of that series here. Also note that list price for the "Historical" series is $6.99, and list price for the "Great Recordings of the Century" (which is the 24-bit line) is $11.99. You can find, say, certain Mozart performances (which are identical) in both series. They just have different cover art and different remastering. I've been scooping up discs from the "Historical" series like mad lately — and this was before I heard about EMI being purchased! Quote
Kalo Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 "Out of Print" doesn't have quite the same meaning that it used to, what with the used market being online now, and the European "50 year" rule. Lets just say that I'm not shaking in my boots about losing access to any great music. Not to mention file-sharing, downloading legal and illegal, etc... My real fear is that even in that golden future, far far away, when everything will be available just for the asking, the average person will still be asking for whatever the equivalent of American Idol "music" is currently being shoved down their throats... Oh wait, that's no different than it is today. Quote
king ubu Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 The Mulligan material certainly is available in cheapo copy editions already. I think the BN set is OOP anyway, no? How about Groove Holmes' Pacific Jazz discs? I think there were four, but I never found the one with Ben Webster... the one with Gene Ammons is great! Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 How about Groove Holmes' Pacific Jazz discs? I think there were four, but I never found the one with Ben Webster... the one with Gene Ammons is great! None are available at present. About 3hr28min playing time altogether. You'd think they'd make a good Mosaic select, wouldn't you? Particularly since MC fucked up the original CD reissues - forgot to include one track in the correct reissue and didn't discover another until later. MG Quote
king ubu Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 How about Groove Holmes' Pacific Jazz discs? I think there were four, but I never found the one with Ben Webster... the one with Gene Ammons is great! None are available at present. About 3hr28min playing time altogether. You'd think they'd make a good Mosaic select, wouldn't you? Particularly since MC fucked up the original CD reissues - forgot to include one track in the correct reissue and didn't discover another until later. MG The stray track on "After Hours"? What are the others again, the one with Jug, the one with Webster, and what's the fourth? A *great* select, I'd say! Quote
ASNL77 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 I've seen the McIntyre recently That one crops up in weird places. Found my copy on Guernsey ! Very weird place indeed! Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 How about Groove Holmes' Pacific Jazz discs? I think there were four, but I never found the one with Ben Webster... the one with Gene Ammons is great! None are available at present. About 3hr28min playing time altogether. You'd think they'd make a good Mosaic select, wouldn't you? Particularly since MC fucked up the original CD reissues - forgot to include one track in the correct reissue and didn't discover another until later. MG The stray track on "After Hours"? What are the others again, the one with Jug, the one with Webster, and what's the fourth? A *great* select, I'd say! Groovin' with Jug Groove (with McCann & Webster) After hours Something special (with McCann & Clifford Scott) This CD also contains 1 track that was on the "Tell it like it is" LP that should have been included in "After hours" and 1 from the "Groove" session, that wasn't found until after the CD reissue of "Groove". MG Quote
mgraham333 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 One of my favorites is Sonny Clark - Leapin' and Lopin' Quote
BruceH Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 These have been mentioned already, but they're of huge importance, muscially and historically, and if they go out-of-print, it'll be a sad day: • Lester Young: The Complete Aladdin Sessions • Gerry Mulligan Quartet with Chet Baker: The Pacific Jazz Sessions (or whatever the exact title is) If anyone's on the fence about these, I'd say pick 'em up now. If you don't like them, you might have fairly good resale value on your hands. Thank God for a lifetime of out-of-control music buying; I've already got these. Quote
BruceH Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 "Out of Print" doesn't have quite the same meaning that it used to, what with the used market being online now, and the European "50 year" rule. Lets just say that I'm not shaking in my boots about losing access to any great music. Not to mention file-sharing, downloading legal and illegal, etc... My real fear is that even in that golden future, far far away, when everything will be available just for the asking, the average person will still be asking for whatever the equivalent of American Idol "music" is currently being shoved down their throats... Oh wait, that's no different than it is today. Yes, but at least in that far off future we'll all have jet-packs. Quote
king ubu Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 but it would be interesting to have some list of items that don't fall under the 50 year rule or don't awake enough interest for being reissued... of the ones mentioned so far, I'd say the Ken McIntyre UA set and the Don Grolnick most likely fall under that category. Quote
AndrewHill Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 I've seen the McIntyre recently That one crops up in weird places. Found my copy on Guernsey ! It does! I found a copy at a Barnes and Noble 'cheapo bin' about two years ago for $7.99. Quote
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