Red Garland on Prestige

[mikeweil]

4 hours ago, chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez said:

theres another later companion cover i believe a johnny hammond smith lp- like that

[Kevin Bresnahan]

13 hours ago, mikeweil said:

Abercrombie's recording debut... I don't think I've ever heard that one.

[JSngry]

13 hours ago, mikeweil said:

Prestige from that time usually put design credits on the fron, in little tine block letters....but I can't find that on this one. Where is it hidden?

[Late]

I've been noticing that the price on used Garland titles (and a number of OJCs for that matter) on eBay and Amazon has been going up. Even the eBay seller "decluttr" has steeper than usual prices.

I'm always wary of purchasing OJCs new these days — it seems, more often than not, they end up being CDRs. ImportCDs unfortunately sells OJC CDRs now (with no mention of such). Most (?) new Keepnews Series compact discs these days appear to be CDRs as well.

[jlhoots]

Looked for the Johnny Hammond Smith. None at a reasonable price!!

[JSngry]

3 minutes ago, jlhoots said:

Looked for the Johnny Hammond Smith. None at a reasonable price!!

It's worth picking up at a reasonable price, but not really worth going on a quest for (unless it means that much to you).

 

[jlhoots]

2 hours ago, JSngry said:

It's worth picking up at a reasonable price, but not really worth going on a quest for (unless it means that much to you).

 

Nope. Thanks!!

[Late]

Turned down low, this is a surprisingly good album to play at 6 in the morning. Red's voicings in 1962 seem a little different than in his 50's work. Ed Powell, an engineer whose name I don't notice often, is also to be commended for the excellent sound. Jazzland, not Prestige, but a fine fine album.

[Peter Friedman]

4 hours ago, Late said:

Turned down low, this is a surprisingly good album to play at 6 in the morning. Red's voicings in 1962 seem a little different than in his 50's work. Ed Powell, an engineer whose name I don't notice often, is also to be commended for the excellent sound. Jazzland, not Prestige, but a fine fine album.

Yes, I like this one too!

[Shrdlu]

Always good to discuss Red - and play his recordings.

A lot of his items with Paul Chambers and Arthur Taylor were scattered over several albums, and CDs when that era arrived. At this point, the original album track orders are (to me) of no relevance, so I arranged them all in session order.

A favorite track (not released at the time) is "Tweedly Tweedly Dum". It is perfect for them and they really dig in. I remember the pop vocal of it being plugged heavily on the radio in the late 1950s. I don't remember which vocalist I heard. We kids used to go around singing it. There is some uncertainty as to the correct title. I was delighted to come across Red playing it, and it's surprising that Weinstock didn't put it out.

[Late]

On 10/8/2020 at 9:24 PM, Late said:

Good album for 2020. Red is tight.

Two years and eleven days later—another October—this one spins on the hi-fi.

[ghost of miles]

This is one of my favorite Organissimo threads, because it always inspires me to listen to Red Garland again.

[ghost of miles]

Spinning this one right now:

[Gheorghe]

The first Red Garland I had in the 70´s was a Prestige 2-fer titled "Rediscoverd Masters". I think it had a quintet on the last side, but I don´t remember who was on it. I think the trumpet player didn´t sound so great, but maybe my memory is not right. 

[JSngry]

Oliver Nelson & Richard Williams.

[danasgoodstuff]

I have been listening to a lot of Red Garland on Prestige recently, both trio and solo.  Both as part of my re-evaluation of trios in general and just because.  But mostly on YouTube as accompaniment to reading.  I own a few CD reissues but find the original albums' selections/sequencing to be kind of hit and miss, but nearly all of them have a cut or two that are the definitive renditions of that particular tune for me.  Garlands light touch and sense of space lets the tunes breath to great advantage, or something like that.  Music from the era when there were still passenger trains going everywhere.  Perfect accompaniment to railroad porn (books about mergers and what train wrecks they often were).

(37) Stormy Weather - Red Garland - YouTube

[Gheorghe]

10 hours ago, danasgoodstuff said:

I have been listening to a lot of Red Garland on Prestige recently, both trio and solo.  Both as part of my re-evaluation of trios in general and just because.  But mostly on YouTube as accompaniment to reading.  I own a few CD reissues but find the original albums' selections/sequencing to be kind of hit and miss, but nearly all of them have a cut or two that are the definitive renditions of that particular tune for me.  Garlands light touch and sense of space lets the tunes breath to great advantage, or something like that.  Music from the era when there were still passenger trains going everywhere.  Perfect accompaniment to railroad porn (books about mergers and what train wrecks they often were).

(37) Stormy Weather - Red Garland - YouTube

Stormy Weather ! 

It´s not exactly my repertory on gigs but once I thought if there would be a request in that direction I might at least try to play it at home and I did. 
I didn´t even know that Red Garland recorded it and on the other hand I love to LISTEN to Red Garland, but only to enjoy it, not to try to copy him. But the really STRANGE thing is that without even knowing that Garland played or recorded it, when I played it (no sheet, just knowing the tune as common knowledge) I found that automatically it got into a thing that reminds me of Garland, I mean with them chords and light touch in the higher register.....

 

[Peter Friedman]

There seems to be numerous highly positive comments here and on other threads about Red Garland.

Personally I have a large number of Red's albums and do enjoy them. However, for some reason his playing has never reached me the way many many other jazz pianists have been able to do. It may be that I hear a lightness and lack of depth (a hard to define quality) in his playing. Garland's recordings are perfect background music while eating dinner or working at my desk paying bills. But when I want to sit down and do some serious listening, Red's albums would not be a top level choice.

There was a time when I was not able to understand why Red Garland was picked to be the piano player in the Miles Davis Quintet. There were a lot of jazz piano players that I would have preferred to hear in that quintet. But over a number of years I did come to appreciate the way Red's light touch  was a balance to the  hard hitting from Coltrane, Philly Joe and Miles.

[JSngry]

Red was a master accompanist.

And, as evidenced by his own albums, he knew a LOT of tunes. Between him and Trane, they probably knew EVERY song ever.

[Gheorghe]

13 hours ago, Peter Friedman said:

 

 

 

There was a time when I was not able to understand why Red Garland was picked to be the piano player in the Miles Davis Quintet. There were a lot of jazz piano players that I would have preferred to hear in that quintet. But over a number of years I did come to appreciate the way Red's light touch  was a balance to the  hard hitting from Coltrane, Philly Joe and Miles.

In my case the first "jazz" I ever had heard was the "Steamin´" LP It had another cover than the original Prestige, and was available in the early 70´s. Before that I had heard an Oscar Peterson at some other peoples place but when I heard Red Garland soloing especially on those medium tunes "Surrey with the Fring on top" and "Diane" or the ballad "When I Fall in Love", my impression was that this is real music, so for me as a starter he was the perfect pianist and I could hum all his soloes along with the LP. On the other hand, I didn´t have the same feeling when it was only a trio album. 
My favourite Garlands always have been the sideman recordings or those recordings, where he is the leader but has other hornplayers too like let´s say Trane and Donald Byrd or so on.....

[Teasing the Korean]

21 hours ago, JSngry said:

Red was a master accompanist.

Not according to the name-dropping professor in the university jazz program, who told us that Coltrane didn't like Red's accompaniment, and that "only those of us who were very close to the band" knew this.