Son-of-a-Weizen Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Saw this Japanese only release over at eBay last week. It's not the same one put out by Collectibles.......sooooo, what's it all about?? Must be pretty good if it sold for $76....then again, maybe not? A bootleg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Looks like a Warwick label logo on the top right side of the cover! Must be a variation on this Warwick album: That was with Herbie Hancock, Laymon Jackson and Jimmy Cobb. The session has been reissued in numerous variations. The version you posted made use of Herbie Hancock's popularity several years after the session was recorded. Not worth $76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 (edited) Here are the tracklists and session info of the two different "Jammin'" releases, and Donyld Byrd's "Out of this world". It looks like the Collectables is in fact "Out of this world" (or alternate takes from the session), but the other "Jammin'" is a different 1961 session. Collectables: 1. Currio's (Alternate Take) 2. Bird House (Alternate Take) 3. Mr. Lucky (Alternate Take) 4. Out Of This World (Alternate Take) 5. Daydreams (Alternate Take) 6. I Am An Old Man http://www.oldies.com/product-view/61342.html Jammin' With The Herbie Hancock Quintet (1984, Happy Bird) 1 Jammin' With Herbie 2 Herbie's Blues 3 Rock Your Soul 4 TCB With Herbie 5 Soul Power 6 Cat Call Recorded in 1961. Reissued on CD by Prime Cuts in 1995. http://www.nndb.com/music/808/000119451/ Jammin' With The Herbie Hancock Quintet (Happy Bird B 90172) Donald Byrd (tp) Pepper Adams (bars) Herbie Hancock (p) Laymon Jackson (b) Jimmy Cobb (d) NYC, early 1961 Jammin' With The Herbie Herbie's Blues Rock Your Soul TCB With Herbie Soul Power Cat Call Pepper Adams/Donald Byrd - Out Of This World (Warwick W 2041) Donald Byrd (tp) Pepper Adams (bars) Teddy Charles (vib -6) Herbie Hancock (p) Laymon Jackson (b) Jimmy Cobb (d) NYC, early 1961 1. Curro's 2. Day Dream 3. Bird House 4. Out Of This World 5. Mr. Lucky Theme 6. Beautiful Evening http://www.jazzdisco.org/byrd/cat/a/#610100 Edited March 25, 2007 by Claude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 (edited) I'm pretty sure that "Jammin' with Herbie" and these other tracks are retitled alternates. I have a European cd release called "Jammin' with Herbie" and that is the case. Edited March 25, 2007 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) The takes on Jammin' are truncated - the only issue that had the takes as complete as possible was the two LPs on Fresh Sound - one had the Warwick LP as issued, the other the alternates. That Jammin' is a bootleg to be avoided. Due to most themes edited off it is an unpleasant listening experience. Teddy Charles produced the session and played on one track: Date: ca. 1961 Location: NY Label: Warwick Pepper Adams (ldr), Donald Byrd (t), Pepper Adams (bar), Teddy Charles (vib), Herbie Hancock (p), Laymon Jackson (b), Jimmy Cobb (d)a. 61WA71 It's A Beautiful Evening - 5:20 (Dorothy Wayne, Raymond Rasch, Sidney Keith Russell) West Wind (Ger.) CD: 2135 - Out of This World Fresh Sound (Sp.) CD: FSR-CD 137 - Out of This World - Donald Byrd/Pepper Adams Quintet Fresh Sound (Sp.) CD: FSR-CD 335 - Out of This World - The Complete Warwick Sessions Starburst CD: 1010 - Touchstone Fresh Sound (Sp.) LP 12": FSR-638 - Out of This World - Donald Byrd/Pepper Adams Quintet Warwick LP 12": W 2041 - Out of This World - Donald Byrd/Pepper Adams Quintet TCB (Swi.) LP 12": 1002 - Takin' Care of Business The rest of this album features the Pepper Adams-Donald Byrd Quintet. Charles only appears on one track. The CD reissue contains the extended versions of each track. On the Warwick and Fresh Sound LPs, Charles is referred to as "Jinx Jingles." From Noal Cohen's Teddy Charles Discography. I remember mailing him the timings of both Fresh Sound LPs and descriptions of the solo routines of each track to help him find out if Charles was on more tracks. I repeat: Avoid that Jammin' in every form! You're better off with any of the Fresh Sound issues! Edited March 26, 2007 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted March 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Not worth $76 No, definitely not $76........but I'd easily pay triple the $4.98 asking price for the variation of it over at 'Oldies'. As for that one in the picture I posted...sounds like it gets a unanimous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyJazz Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) Here are the tracklists and session info of the two different "Jammin'" releases, and Donyld Byrd's "Out of this world". It looks like the Collectables is in fact "Out of this world" (or alternate takes from the session), but the other "Jammin'" is a different 1961 session. Collectables: 1. Currio's (Alternate Take) 2. Bird House (Alternate Take) 3. Mr. Lucky (Alternate Take) 4. Out Of This World (Alternate Take) 5. Daydreams (Alternate Take) 6. I Am An Old Man http://www.oldies.com/product-view/61342.html (snip) I doubt that the 20 year old or so (at that time) Herbie would have recorded a tune titled as No. 6 is above, "I Am An Old Man". Rather, that cut is a very spirited and terrific version of "I'm an Old Cowhand". Edited March 26, 2007 by MartyJazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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