Chas Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I was just listening to Jack McDuff's To Seek a New Home and wondering why this has never been out on CD ( even in Japan ?) . I was disappointed when Water put out Who Knows What Tomorrow's Gonna Bring instead of it . To Seek a New Home , while not quite as singular a recording as Moon Rappin' , still occupies it's own space in jazz organ-ville , and I think it would have been a better choice for Water sales-wise than Who Knows What Tomorrow's Gonna Bring . There aren't nearly enough orchestral organ records ( let alone those with wordless vocalizing ) as far as I'm concerned . Another candidate for a Rare Groove-type release is Ronnie Foster's Live at Montreux from '73 . When it comes to the Foster Blue Notes , the earlier the better , unless your tastes run to Stevie Wonder knock-offs or synthesized fuzak in general . I guess I'm saying I liked him better when he was just a freap , whatever the hell that meant.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Another candidate for a Rare Groove-type release is Ronnie Foster's Live at Montreux from '73 . When it comes to the Foster Blue Notes , the earlier the better , unless your tastes run to Stevie Wonder knock-offs or synthesized fuzak in general . I guess I'm saying I liked him better when he was just a freap , whatever the hell that meant.... Isn't the Two Headed Freap his first BN, which besides Sweet Revival, would be the only ones preceding the Montreux date? I was lucky enough to find Two Headed Freap in a $2.50 bin a few years ago and considering its rarity nowadays I guess I lucked out. What really caught my eye though was George Duviver's name in the credits although it seems that he does not play on every track and its hard to even hear where he plays and the booklet just repeats the credits on back tray card...no liner notes! By and large, its a decent date that really doesn't have me yearning to hear more. However, I did not know there was a live date in Montreux. Do you have any details, personnelle, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogak Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 well i would rather have cheshire cat. on the avenue is on the level of freap and i could do without. i woudl think cheshire cat w. george benson at least has a selling point. think i mentioned this before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogak Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 also agree water chose the wrong mcduff to reissue. however anyone craving should check out the heatin' system on cadet. recently issued on CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Write to Obama. Word has it that he will address this issue when he's nominated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 pfffst: 3 yrs ago i would of said BRING BACK RARE GROOVES! now i saw screw blue note- ill go fuckin find Gene Harris solo lps on my OWN- i dont need their lazy asses to reissue one cd ever 12 1/2 years, ill go find it on record or the sort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Teasing the Korean Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 pfffst: 3 yrs ago i would of said BRING BACK RARE GROOVES! now i saw screw blue note- ill go fuckin find Gene Harris solo lps on my OWN- i dont need their lazy asses to reissue one cd ever 12 1/2 years, ill go find it on record or the sort would HAVE said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Another candidate for a Rare Groove-type release is Ronnie Foster's Live at Montreux from '73 . When it comes to the Foster Blue Notes , the earlier the better , unless your tastes run to Stevie Wonder knock-offs or synthesized fuzak in general . I guess I'm saying I liked him better when he was just a freap , whatever the hell that meant.... However, I did not know there was a live date in Montreux. Do you have any details, personnelle, etc? It's one of five concerts recorded at the Festival on July 5 , 1973 , four of which were issued on Blue Note LPs . It's Ronnie in a trio with Gregory Miller on guitar and Marvin Chappell on drums . Four tracks , including a version of Chunky from Freap , and a cover of Seals & Crofts' East of Ginger Trees . Has not been reissued to my knowledge . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 however anyone craving should check out the heatin' system on cadet. recently issued on CD. I like that one too , especially the title track which starts out with a loping , bluesy groove before modulating into a densely percussive deep funk . The band is tight . The Heatin' System* was the follow up to Who Knows What Tomorrow's Gonna Bring which to me was a misstep , with this record being a quick return to form . The original double-lp is now on a single , pricey ( ~ $30 ) Japanese CD . *Like Weather Report with their two self-titled records , McDuff had two albums titled The Heatin' System , this one for Cadet from 1971 , and one for Concord from 1994 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 ronnie foster live/ ?? what other lps were in that "live" series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 (edited) ronnie foster live/ ?? what other lps were in that "live" series? The best one of all is the Bobby Hutcherson with Woody Shaw which was out on CD in '94 , but now very expensive on the aftermarket . That one needs to be re-reissued ! The others ( not on CD ) were one by vocalist Marlena Shaw , one by Bobbi Humphrey and one by Donald Byrd that was never issued at all . Edited February 14, 2008 by Chas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Another candidate for a Rare Groove-type release is Ronnie Foster's Live at Montreux from '73 . When it comes to the Foster Blue Notes , the earlier the better , unless your tastes run to Stevie Wonder knock-offs or synthesized fuzak in general . I guess I'm saying I liked him better when he was just a freap , whatever the hell that meant.... However, I did not know there was a live date in Montreux. Do you have any details, personnelle, etc? It's one of five concerts recorded at the Festival on July 5 , 1973 , four of which were issued on Blue Note LPs . It's Ronnie in a trio with Gregory Miller on guitar and Marvin Chappell on drums . Four tracks , including a version of Chunky from Freap , and a cover of Seals & Crofts' East of Ginger Trees . Has not been reissued to my knowledge . Thanks for the info! Never saw that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 The best one of all is the Bobby Hutcherson with Woody Shaw which was out on CD in '94 , but now very expensive on the aftermarket . Totally agree. That one roars from beginning to end. Both Shaw and Hutch in great form ! Released 'mid-price' when it came out I seem to recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 The best one of all is the Bobby Hutcherson with Woody Shaw which was out on CD in '94 , but now very expensive on the aftermarket . Totally agree. That one roars from beginning to end. Both Shaw and Hutch in great form ! Released 'mid-price' when it came out I seem to recall. I've got that one on LP. Sorry I didn't get the CD when it was out. It's a bugger to have to turn the record over halfway through a tune. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 The CD has a fourth previously unissued tune (13 minutes long), so that is an additional reason to track it down. By the way, the Marlena Shaw at Montreux has been out on CD in Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogak Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 who knows what tomorrow is going to bring probably suffers from the lineup-less um soulful new york studio cats, imo maybe? heatin' system was then with some chicago guys who knew what was up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Stream Posted February 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I was just listening to Jack McDuff's To Seek a New Home and wondering why this has never been out on CD ( even in Japan ?) . I was disappointed when Water put out Who Knows What Tomorrow's Gonna Bring instead of it . To Seek a New Home , while not quite as singular a recording as Moon Rappin' , still occupies it's own space in jazz organ-ville , and I think it would have been a better choice for Water sales-wise than Who Knows What Tomorrow's Gonna Bring . There aren't nearly enough orchestral organ records ( let alone those with wordless vocalizing ) as far as I'm concerned . Another candidate for a Rare Groove-type release is Ronnie Foster's Live at Montreux from '73 . When it comes to the Foster Blue Notes , the earlier the better , unless your tastes run to Stevie Wonder knock-offs or synthesized fuzak in general . I guess I'm saying I liked him better when he was just a freap , whatever the hell that meant.... Have to agree 100% Chas on all counts. "To Seek a New Home" is definately a great session more in line with Moon Rappin' than Who Knows. In general I wish someone (even the Japanese haven't RVGd a lot of these type of sessions on BN) would take some Water-Records-type care and appreciation in reissuing these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Stream Posted September 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 OK....RARE GROOVES ARE OFFICALLY BACK!!!!!!! DIG IT!!!!! Picked up three yesterday...Reuben Wilson "Set Us Free"....Three Sounds "Soul Symphony"....Gene Harris "Elegant Soul". LOVE all of them, nice to hear new sounds from this era. I have a real affection for this Rare Groove series and it was nice to see the "Rare Grooves" logo proudly snaking down front spine. THANKS BLUE NOTE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Stream Posted September 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 i thought water took over the rare groove series. though they have not released anything for a while. that said,i would also like to see the rare groove series start up again. hows about the following: the three sounds...soul symphony reuben wilson.......set us free...on broadway blue mitchell.........bantu village...collision in black jimmy mcgriff.......black pearl Wow...pretty good guess Mike. You nailed two of the batch that came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Interestingly enough, the two Three Sounds and the Wilson are out of stock or backordered at many online sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Interestingly enough, the two Three Sounds and the Wilson are out of stock or backordered at many online sources. Well, DG still has a few left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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