Jim Dye Posted August 29, 2003 Report Posted August 29, 2003 (edited) Jim Dye (or anyone): that CD (the cover of which you posted), does that contain the rest of the Nippon Soul/Japanese Concerts stuff? Or is there still some music not on CD yet? ubu It has been my understanding that Dizzy's Business contains the rest of the Japanese tapes that didn't make it on to Nippon Soul. But these days, who knows! It'd be great if some more recordings of that band showed up. I just love the Sextet. Edited August 29, 2003 by Jim Dye Quote
king ubu Posted August 29, 2003 Report Posted August 29, 2003 Jim & Lon: thanks, will have to get these two as soon as I can afford! ubu Quote
Eric Posted August 29, 2003 Report Posted August 29, 2003 Here' a second for "Know What I Mean" with Bill Evans. Great record. Eric Quote
king ubu Posted August 29, 2003 Report Posted August 29, 2003 I don't rate I know what I mean that high - I'd say, it's a beautiful record, it's nice to have Evans and Cannonball together, and it's probably the best Evans & horns date, yet... somehow, I don't find myself returning to it all that often. ubu Quote
king ubu Posted August 29, 2003 Report Posted August 29, 2003 Me either KU. . . . Glad not to be alone in the desert... that would make two heads Quote
Jazzmoose Posted August 29, 2003 Report Posted August 29, 2003 I'll reach for "Know What I Mean" if I'm in the mood for Bill Evans, but not if I'm in the mood for Cannonball, if you know what I mean... Quote
Gary Posted August 30, 2003 Report Posted August 30, 2003 ' Just been listening to 'Know what i mean ' & thought - wasnt there a Cannoball Adderley thread on Organissimo today ?? - I must mention it ! i've been beaten to it by a lonnnggg time . i've got quite alot of Bill Evans , hardly any Cannonball but all i heard was some beautiful jazz. Quote
Morganized Posted August 30, 2003 Report Posted August 30, 2003 Let me begin by saying I respect all the opinions previouly expressed in this thread. That is one of the main reasons I continue to visit this board. I find that the opinions espressed here 99% of the time are thoughtful, fairly presented, and often the consensus is right on the money in my opinion. I will admit to being a novice compared to many on this board. I have been listening to Know What I Mean and I must say that I find Cannonball's playing on this one to be really remarkable. What I find so fascinating is the evidence of control in his playing. The pieces require a subtleness but right under that control you get this wonderful sense of the power that Cannonball had. I think it adds an emotion to the piece that would be missed by lesser players. I am reminded of Miles when he said that sometimes the notes not played are more important than those that are played. IMO Cannonball just gushes soul on this one. He is so right there on each and every tune. Someone said they thought this one was more of a Bill Evans piece, but I must respectfully disagree in this instance. Bill is great as always, but to my ears Cannonball is the one that puts the soul in this one. If it weren't for his playing I think this one would have gone largely unnoticed. It is unlike many of his more lively recordings, but IMO that is what makes this one so powerful. Just my two cents. Quote
Gary Posted August 30, 2003 Report Posted August 30, 2003 (edited) well said Morganized ! Edited August 30, 2003 by Gary Quote
Jazzmoose Posted August 30, 2003 Report Posted August 30, 2003 Well...at the very least it sounds like a good excuse to dig it out and give it a listen again! Quote
jazzbo Posted August 30, 2003 Report Posted August 30, 2003 I agree with Morganized, I really do. The disc just doesn't speak to me and ask me to play it, it's probably the least played Cannon cd that I have, I agree that it has phenomenal playing throughout by Bill and Julian. . . . My main problem is the bass and drums just don't make me "get up with it." I'm not a fan of this bass and drum team. So I reach for other Cannon and Evans cds so much more often. Quote
king ubu Posted August 30, 2003 Report Posted August 30, 2003 I'm completely with Lon on this one - wonder what a different bass-drum-team could have done... Generally, I think Evans was just not the guy to lead a date with horns. Of course he was great with Miles, but his ohn quintet/quartet dates are the ones that get the least playing time with me. It's the trios that do more for me. Then, Cannonball: I think I have never heard any wrong note from him, neither an unfitting one. I consider him one of the giants of the saxophone, and an underrated (though I hate this label) musician/bandleader/catalyst. Another of my favorite Cannonball recordings is "Things Are Getting Better, with Milt Jackson and the great rhythm section of Wynton Kelly, Percy Heath and Art Blakey. Great cover, too! ("Cover Photograph, by Charles Stewart, shows Cannonball Adderley with his King Super 20 Alto Sax"). The liners, by the way also include that strange Roverside Sterophonic diagram (the one we discussed earlier, with the phanton speaker etc) ubu Quote
king ubu Posted August 30, 2003 Report Posted August 30, 2003 Then, for a change of pace, theres also the "Ray Brown With the All-Star Big Band Featuring Cannonball Adderley" album (Verve, 1962). It's included on the following (otherwise fairly good rather than great, double CD: And, as a sidenote, that cover story downbeat had on Cannon, some months ago, was a very good read. ubu Quote
jazzbo Posted August 30, 2003 Report Posted August 30, 2003 How have I missed that Bags cd appearance! Thanks for bringing it up. Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted September 18, 2003 Author Report Posted September 18, 2003 Just heard a cut off "Quintet Plus" on the way home from the gig tonight. Man, that was some swingin' shit. Joe and I subtitled it "Swingin' Our Nuts Off: Fuck Yeah!" I'll have to pick this one up! Quintet Plus! Quote
Joe G Posted September 18, 2003 Report Posted September 18, 2003 I'll be damned, Jim -- I have that one! And furthermore, you gave it to me for my birthday a couple years ago! Thanks dude! Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted September 18, 2003 Author Report Posted September 18, 2003 I'll be damned, Jim -- I have that one! And furthermore, you gave it to me for my birthday a couple years ago! Thanks dude! Now waitaminute!!!! Quote
king ubu Posted September 18, 2003 Report Posted September 18, 2003 That's a funny story... "Quintet Plus" might well be the first Cannon CD I'd forgot I have it! Here's another good one, featuring some very nice solos from Cannonball: It features Joe Newman as the other principal soloist. Very cool CD! ubu Quote
Sundog Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 What's the scoop on "Nancy Wilson & Cannonball Adderley"? I heard a cut off this while driving to work this morning. I'm assuming this is a nice ballads/standards album that is well worth buying? Quote
JSngry Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 What's the scoop on "Nancy Wilson & Cannonball Adderley"? Stone classic. Buy it YESTERDAY. Quote
Sundog Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Stone classic. Buy it YESTERDAY. Done! Quote
jazzbo Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 I hope it's not untowards to say. . . the instrumental tracks on that cd are KILLIN'! Quote
BFrank Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 Nice to know. I've come close to buying that Nancy/Cannonball CD several times. I'll have to do a little better next time I shop. Quote
_forumlogo.png.a607ef20a6e0c299ab2aa6443aa1f32e.png)
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.