Johnny Griffin & Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Still wise, but a very slightly flawed wiseom it is.

Ah well, my view of the world is that no one has as many cups of tea a day as I do.

MG

[T.D.]

Sorry for OT inquiry (this seems like the best candidate of existing threads), but does anyone have an opinion on Johnny Griffin's Argo release JG, with Ware and Mance? I just saw a (new release?) mid-price CD, and am considering it. I so far have only two Blue Notes, A Blowing Session (which I dig), and The Congregation (which didn't do much for me, despite my Sonny Clark obsession), and had been planning to try some Riversides next.

[Niko]

Sorry for OT inquiry (this seems like the best candidate of existing threads), but does anyone have an opinion on Johnny Griffin's Argo release JG, with Ware and Mance? I just saw a (new release?) mid-price CD, and am considering it. I so far have only two Blue Notes, A Blowing Session (which I dig), and The Congregation (which didn't do much for me, despite my Sonny Clark obsession), and had been planning to try some Riversides next.

JG is really nice, i can connect more strongly to it than to The Congregation which (slightly) underwhelmed me as well;

i think of the Riversides i have, i like Kerry Dancers and especially Grab this (with organ) better than JG, and the one with French Horn, whose name just escapes me about the same as JG (although it is very different)

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Sorry for OT inquiry (this seems like the best candidate of existing threads), but does anyone have an opinion on Johnny Griffin's Argo release JG, with Ware and Mance? I just saw a (new release?) mid-price CD, and am considering it. I so far have only two Blue Notes, A Blowing Session (which I dig), and The Congregation (which didn't do much for me, despite my Sonny Clark obsession), and had been planning to try some Riversides next.

JG is really nice, i can connect more strongly to it than to The Congregation which (slightly) underwhelmed me as well;

i think of the Riversides i have, i like Kerry Dancers and especially Grab this (with organ) better than JG, and the one with French Horn, whose name just escapes me about the same as JG (although it is very different)

Didn't know this had been reissued recently. Is it a US or European issue?

MG

[T.D.]

Must be a US release, because I saw it in a local brick-and-mortar shop for $10. Looks to be a Verve slimline digipak. There's a CD Universe page, which I won't give because I don't know how to link it with Organissimo...

[jazzbo]

Yes, US release, very short. . . very sweet.

http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/product.asp...t&pid=10981

[Shawn]

Yes, US release, very short. . . very sweet.

http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/product.asp...t&pid=10981

It's short, but it's a MUST HAVE! Worth picking up for the track Riff Raff alone...Wilbur Ware baby!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Thanks - the sooner Jim gets his links to the retailers back, the better. There are now 4 CDs I want fairly urgently...

MG

[sidewinder]

Just been watching Griff in action on that Clarke/Boland Big Band in Prague DVD. A commanding force in that band (what a sax lineup - to die for) and very much at his peak in Oct 1967.

[Peter Friedman]

Personally, before getting J.G., I would suggest picking up these 3 Riverside CDs.

The Little Giant (with Blue Mitchell, Julian Priester, Wynton Kelly, Sam Jones, Tootie Heath)

Johnny Griffin Sextet (with Donald Byrd, Pepper Adams, Kenny Drew, Wilbur Ware, Philly Joe Jones)

Way Out (with Kenny Drew, Wilbur Ware, Philly Joe Jones)

[T.D.]

Thanks for the help! I'm going to hold off on JG, and pick up some Riversides down the line. Car maintenance has dug into the current CD budget, as well.

[Guest donald petersen]

how is "gemini"? i guess no one cares for it? no i mean "pisces"...g_d i am an idiot.

[Niko]

how is "gemini"? i guess no one cares for it? no i mean "pisces"...g_d i am an idiot.

pisces: iirc it's a sequence of quartets with only one tenor playing on each track and it is mostly ballads (and on the 4 Lockjaw quartets Horace Parlan plays celeste) so it is a little odd concept, but some of the tracks are really nice (the title track with Griffin for instance)

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

how is "gemini"? i guess no one cares for it? no i mean "pisces"...g_d i am an idiot.

pisces: iirc it's a sequence of quartets with only one tenor playing on each track and it is mostly ballads (and on the 4 Lockjaw quartets Horace Parlan plays celeste) so it is a little odd concept, but some of the tracks are really nice (the title track with Griffin for instance)

Yes, I agree. I like it.

MG

[Guest donald petersen]

shalame-not a team-up but i just bought eddie davis' "the heavy hitter" and it has a pretty cool concept-all two song medlies....and a sweet band w. victor lewis and al dailey (this is a 1979 date). i'm enjoying it a lot. didn't realize it was a "concept" album until i started listening.

[king ubu]

shalame-not a team-up but i just bought eddie davis' "the heavy hitter" and it has a pretty cool concept-all two song medlies....and a sweet band w. victor lewis and al dailey (this is a 1979 date). i'm enjoying it a lot. didn't realize it was a "concept" album until i started listening.

yup, good one! one of the few ok 32jazz covers, too... (or just fitting, not really good per se):

Can be found cheaply on US Amazon.

[BruceH]

I've got Battle Stations, The Tenor Scene, and Tough Tenor Favorites. Love 'em all, but I'd have to say my fave is Tough Tenor Favorites. Great sound to that. Sounds like I should get Minton's.

[BruceH]

Pardon me if I missed it, but any comments on the Griffin/Davis album Pisces?

[Niko]

Pardon me if I missed it, but any comments on the Griffin/Davis album Pisces?

posts 38 and 39, but actually i've listened to it another time since and i definitely don't regret having it...

[Guest donald petersen]

Pardon me if I missed it, but any comments on the Griffin/Davis album Pisces?

yeah i just asked about it like 5 posts ago and got responses...why didn't you look before you asked?

[Shawn]

Pisces is a nice change of pace date, but you should hunt down all the other ones first. I'm glad I have it, but it's my least favorite of the Griff/Lock albums.

[Guest donald petersen]

i felt that my post was ignored and it hurt my feelings.

[BruceH]

Pisces is a nice change of pace date, but you should hunt down all the other ones first. I'm glad I have it, but it's my least favorite of the Griff/Lock albums.

Duly noted. That seems to be the consnsus.

Edited August 21, 2007 by BruceH

[Niko]

Pisces is a nice change of pace date, but you should hunt down all the other ones first. I'm glad I have it, but it's my least favorite of the Griff/Lock albums.

Dually noted. That seems to be the consnsus.

you're now ready to inform us about the contents of this thread, it seems

[BruceH]

Pisces is a nice change of pace date, but you should hunt down all the other ones first. I'm glad I have it, but it's my least favorite of the Griff/Lock albums.

Dually noted. That seems to be the consnsus.

you're now ready to inform us about the contents of this thread, it seems

Thread? What thread?