Teasing the Korean Posted February 18, 2007 Report Posted February 18, 2007 I have the LP of this on Charlie Parker records, credited to Duke Jordan with Art Taylor on drums. There is a CD of this with the same track lineup. There is another CD of this credited to Art Blakey. This CD has more tracks, only one of which shares a title ("No Problem"). IMDB does not list Art Blakey in connection with the music for this film, though Duke Jordan is listed (along with Thelonius Monk and another name I didn't recognize). Anyone know the story here? Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted February 18, 2007 Author Report Posted February 18, 2007 Wikepedia tells us that "the film's score is entirely composed of music written and performed by Thelonius Monk." The liner notes of the LP I have reference titles being changed for the film and that Jordan's music was "misused and credit denied him." The plot thickens... Quote
brownie Posted February 18, 2007 Report Posted February 18, 2007 One of several threads about the Liaisons Dangereuses 1960 film music: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...ons+dangereuses Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted February 18, 2007 Author Report Posted February 18, 2007 Thanks that (partially) answers my questions! Have those Monk recordings ever surfaced since the time of that thread (2003)? Quote
brownie Posted February 18, 2007 Report Posted February 18, 2007 No! If you want to listen to the Monk music (and the Messengers's) you can get the DVD! Les Liaisons Dangereuses Quote
brownie Posted February 18, 2007 Report Posted February 18, 2007 The official soundtrack for 'Les Liaisons Dangereuses 1960' on Fontana No Monk on that album! Quote
bluesoul Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 A New Thelonious Monk Album Emerges From the Soundtrack to a Classic French Film Quote
soulpope Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, bluesoul said: A New Thelonious Monk Album Emerges From the Soundtrack to a Classic French Film Thnx for the info .... Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted March 21, 2017 Author Report Posted March 21, 2017 I suspect that the 2-LP set will be pricey. Still, I might want the LP over the CD. I will be sure to get one of them. Thanks for the info! Quote
brownie Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 At long last! The film plays pretty often on French TV. It has aged. It includes à small portion of the music originally taped. Pretty sûre the music stood the test of time much better. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, brownie said: At long last! The film plays pretty often on French TV. It has aged. It includes à small portion of the music originally taped. Pretty sûre the music stood the test of time much better. Talking about Art Blakey and film scores from that period: Did "Des femmes disparaissent" age any better? Just being curious (no, I have not taken the time yet to view the film on Youtube ) Considering the French title ("Women disappear") and then the (period) titles in other languages ... "The road to shame" (English) "The sex vampires" (Italian) "Blonde freight and black devils" (German) ... you sure get a distinct "pulp fiction" feeling about the plot that would have triggered THESE translations to drag people into the movie theaters abroad ... Edited March 21, 2017 by Big Beat Steve Quote
Dan Gould Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 Very cool, though not really a surprise, wasn't there an interview with Feldman in which he mentioned unissued studio Monk and it was quickly deduced that this was what he must have been talking about? Anyway, I am confused. The WBGO piece states no new music was composed. The press release GoM posted in the other thread quotes TS Monk as saying there is new music. So which will it be? I hereby predict that almost everyone will be excited by this, but Allen is going to mention how disappointing it is that Rouse is on the date. Quote
brownie Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Big Beat Steve said: Talking about Art Blakey and film scores from that period: Did "Des femmes disparaissent" age any better? Just being curious (no, I have not taken the time yet to view the film on Youtube ) Considering the French title ("Women disappear") and then the (period) titles in other languages ... "The road to shame" (English) "The sex vampires" (Italian) "Blonde freight and black devils" (German) ... you sure get a distinct "pulp fiction" feeling about the plot that would have triggered THESE translations to drag people into the movie theaters abroad ... 'Des Femmes Disparaissent' fares worst as a movie even if it remains visible in a highly dated period way if you are in a masochistic mood... and you can close your eyes and just listen to the music of Blakey's Messengers at their best! Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, brownie said: 'Des Femmes Disparaissent' fares worst as a movie even if it remains visible in a highly dated period way if you are in a masochistic mood... and you can close your eyes and just listen to the music of Blakey's Messengers at their best! I've already done that here and there just listening to the LP. Thanks, Brownie, for that candid review! Quote
medjuck Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 IS all the Monk music used in the film? Quote
Niko Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, medjuck said: IS all the Monk music used in the film? I have no clou in any narrow sense of the word, but given that we are talking about a double LP. and that there's a second soundtrack album by Duke Jordan (no less) used in the film, the film would take forever if it used all the Monk music - and the vast majority of films are too long but they don't take forever Quote
jazzbo Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 I read elsewhere today (can't find where so far) that just snippets were used in the film; this is going to greatly increase the music available. I'm ready! Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted March 25, 2017 Author Report Posted March 25, 2017 On March 21, 2017 at 9:01 AM, brownie said: Pretty sûre the music stood the test of time much better. In the circles I travel in, the film is very much loved, as is Roger Vadim and French New Wave cinema in general. In fact, I consider jazz to be a French art form, because whenever I hear jazz, in my mind I automatically see black and white images of Paris in the 1950s. I am forever indebted to the French for inventing jazz. Quote
BillF Posted March 25, 2017 Report Posted March 25, 2017 44 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: In the circles I travel in, the film is very much loved, as is Roger Vadim and French New Wave cinema in general. In fact, I consider jazz to be a French art form, because whenever I hear jazz, in my mind I automatically see black and white images of Paris in the 1950s. I am forever indebted to the French for inventing jazz. In Nouvelles Orleans? Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted March 25, 2017 Author Report Posted March 25, 2017 44 minutes ago, BillF said: In Nouvelles Orleans? New Orleans, New Schmorleans. Paris, baby, Paris! Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted March 25, 2017 Report Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Teasing the Korean said: In the circles I travel in, the film is very much loved, as is Roger Vadim and French New Wave cinema in general. In fact, I consider jazz to be a French art form, because whenever I hear jazz, in my mind I automatically see black and white images of Paris in the 1950s. I am forever indebted to the French for inventing jazz. Well. ever since I saw Ascenseur pour l'Echafaud and Paris Blues and read certain pieces by jazz-minded French scribes, I am inclined to agree with you and i tend to see the same images. Although images of '"U.S. 40s Noir street scenes" run a very, very close second. Quote
medjuck Posted March 25, 2017 Report Posted March 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: In the circles I travel in, the film is very much loved, as is Roger Vadim and French New Wave cinema in general. In fact, I consider jazz to be a French art form, because whenever I hear jazz, in my mind I automatically see black and white images of Paris in the 1950s. I am forever indebted to the French for inventing jazz. I believe that Vadim is usually not included as part of the New Wave-- I've always felt a bit unfairly. He's considered a terrible director (rightly in my opinion) but that doesn't negate that his choice of subject matter, locations and technical apparatus not to mention his commercial success made the New Wave possible. Quote
BillF Posted March 26, 2017 Report Posted March 26, 2017 15 hours ago, medjuck said: I believe that Vadim is usually not included as part of the New Wave-- I've always felt a bit unfairly. He's considered a terrible director (rightly in my opinion) but that doesn't negate that his choice of subject matter, locations and technical apparatus not to mention his commercial success made the New Wave possible. Spectacular love life, too. As Spike Milligan said, "No wonder they called him Roger." (Not sure if this one travels transatlantic.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Vadim Quote
brownie Posted March 26, 2017 Report Posted March 26, 2017 Vadim's films have not stood the test of time well. I am not sure his best one - 'Sait-on Jamais' rates really high these days. Vadim was a much better womanizer (BB, Jane Fonda, Catherine Deneuve, Marie-Christine Barrault... than a film director. If 'Et Dieu Créa la Femme' was viewed favorably by New Wave people, he was never accepted as a full time member. There even was a trial back in 1962 that opposed Vadim to François Truffaut (Vadim won). Quote
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