Larry Kart Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 and a lot of high-flown classical reviewers are going to get their asses handed to them: http://www.gramophone.co.uk/newsMainTempla...newssectionID=1 Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Bound to happen. Anyone remember Ern Malley? Quote
kenny weir Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Anyone remember Ern Malley? One of the greatest Australian jazzmen. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 (edited) Anyone remember Ern Malley? One of the greatest Australian jazzmen. I thought he was a poet. Edited February 17, 2007 by Chuck Nessa Quote
kenny weir Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 (edited) Anyone remember Ern Malley? One of the greatest Australian jazzmen. I thought he was a poet. Just kidding. Actually, Malley was the first name I thought of when I read the Hatto story. Ain't nothing like a good hoax to cheer me up! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ern_Malley Edited February 17, 2007 by kenny weir Quote
Spontooneous Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Jed Distler at classicstoday.com has regularly fallen all over himself with glee at every new Hatto release. There's a "perfect 10" review of her alleged Mozart cycle on top of the page right now. link Quote
kenny weir Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 (edited) I like the bit in the BBC story about how one gushy reviewer had already reviewed - several years prior - the album in question! Yuk Yuk yuk. Edited February 17, 2007 by kenny weir Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 I hope nobody ever discovers that the organissimo records are really Jimmy Smith's last Blue Note releases played backwards and slowed down by .003%. Oh wait... Quote
gslade Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Itunes fightin' crime in the classical world Quote
Spontooneous Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Y'all ready to buy that recording of me playing the Opus Clavicembalisticum now? Quote
mandrill Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Jed Distler at classicstoday.com has regularly fallen all over himself with glee at every new Hatto release. There's a "perfect 10" review of her alleged Mozart cycle on top of the page right now. link Now I wonder whose Mozart cycle it is. The whole thing is rather bizarre. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Y'all ready to buy that recording of me playing the Opus Clavicembalisticum now? Depends if you got it on one disc. Quote
Spontooneous Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Y'all ready to buy that recording of me playing the Opus Clavicembalisticum now? Depends if you got it on one disc. I can do that for you, Chuck! Quote
T.D. Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Oh baby, this is funny stuff! The gaseous windbags on rec.music.classical.recordings have been yapping about Hatto for years. The whole discussion seemed rather fishy, and I never bothered to investigate any recordings. I'll laugh my ass off if it turns out to be a hoax...but the April date for Gramophone's disclosure is a bit suspicious. Quote
Spontooneous Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 (edited) More superlatives from Distler: Hatto's Ravel Hatto's Messiaen Hatto's Liszt Sonata Hatto's Schubert D. 960 Hatto's Debussy Preludes Hatto's Hammerklavier Hatto's Chopin Etudes Edited February 17, 2007 by Spontooneous Quote
T.D. Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 My favorite Distler review: Sorabji Quote
Dan Gould Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 ... but the April date for Gramophone's disclosure is a bit suspicious. I disagree. You don't make a "Breaking News" post on February 15 of what is meant to be an April Fool's joke. It is more likely, definite even, that the March Gramophone went to press well before this broke, and the April issue is the first one to be published after. Quote
Stefan Wood Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 I hope nobody ever discovers that the organissimo records are really Jimmy Smith's last Blue Note releases played backwards and slowed down by .003%. Oh wait... Y'know Jim. I didn't want to say anything, but when I saw you guys play up in Baltimore I did raise an eyebrow when you were doing this Liberace move on the keyboard, in an attempt to disguise the fact that you were switching cds in the sound system behind you. I should have known -- Joe and Randy not only sounded like Grant Green and Ben Dixon, it WAS Green and Dixon! Quote
T.D. Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 (edited) Here's a curious thing: I like the IPO Recordings label, which has put out lots of good jazz CDs, eg. Roland Hanna, Tom McIntosh, Roger Kellaway, Thad Jones tributes, etc. They have a "classical" page, which currently offers only one disc (by the "underrated" Dubravka Tomsic), but promises that We will soon be starting up the much anticipated US releases of the recordings of the great English pianist Joyce Hatto that will eventually cover virtually the entire core classical piano repertoire. Did IPO fall for the hoax? Will these recordings (as "Hatto" releases, that is... ) ever see the light of day? Edited February 17, 2007 by T.D. Quote
paul secor Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 This has happened in other genres. Flyright Records in the U.K. issued an album by Otis "Elevator" Gilmore, supposedly a black Cincinnati bluesman, complete with photos and liner notes, that turned out to be a fraud. It was actually music by a white blues player named Danny Adler. I have a memory that Steve Allen did something similar to this also. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 This has happened in other genres. Flyright Records in the U.K. issued an album by Otis "Elevator" Gilmore, supposedly a black Cincinnati bluesman, complete with photos and liner notes, that turned out to be a fraud. It was actually music by a white blues player named Danny Adler. I have a memory that Steve Allen did something similar to this also. Steve Allen was Buck Hammer. Quote
David Ayers Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 As for Ern Malley, see the official site and the article in Jacket Magazine. Quote
ep1str0phy Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 This has happened in other genres. Flyright Records in the U.K. issued an album by Otis "Elevator" Gilmore, supposedly a black Cincinnati bluesman, complete with photos and liner notes, that turned out to be a fraud. It was actually music by a white blues player named Danny Adler. I have a memory that Steve Allen did something similar to this also. Steve Allen was Buck Hammer. Lot of folks fell for that one, too... Quote
David Ayers Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 And on Joyce Hatto, you guys are right to suggest that the idiotic reviewers will never recover from this. These guys just puff whatever they get for free, and don't ask too many questions. In this case, lots of people had questioned the authenticity of the recordings, but these dunces just piled up their freebies and banged out the publicity. Gramophone is claiming credit for uncovering the scandal, but it was also Gramophone who defended these recordings and told sceptics to put up or shut up and have some respect for the dead. Quote
Dan Gould Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 This has happened in other genres. Flyright Records in the U.K. issued an album by Otis "Elevator" Gilmore, supposedly a black Cincinnati bluesman, complete with photos and liner notes, that turned out to be a fraud. It was actually music by a white blues player named Danny Adler. I have a memory that Steve Allen did something similar to this also. Steve Allen was Buck Hammer. Was he father to Buck Naked? Quote
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