Guest youmustbe Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 Fresh Sound Records has just release a digipack of James clay from 56 including a live track! Buy it!!! I still have my vinyl of TENORMAN on Jazz west which i bought in 1960...NM!...I'm told it's worth 2000k...I ain't selling!!!! Quote
Guest youmustbe Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 Clean up the typos youmustbe!!!! But yeah, James was the shit in 56, then he went with Ray Charles and it all ended. Quote
JSngry Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 ...then he went with Ray Charles and it all ended. Nope. Quote
mikeweil Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 (edited) youmustbe - youmustbe crazy? checkout this, among others: Wes Montgomery's Movin' Along was recorded at the same occasion: Edited February 3, 2007 by mikeweil Quote
brownie Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 James Clay was still delivering on that one: Quote
Guest youmustbe Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 His Riverside lp sucks!!! I bought it when it came out. I remember seeing the ad in Down Beat and waiting eagerly for the store to get it...And my dissapointment....When it was released as cd I bought it just to see if I had been wrong...nope! The one with Fathead I bought when it came out, he plays like just an ordinary sax player. I don't know whether he was a junkie, or playing with Ornette changed his sound or what, or more likely he just wasn't as talented as Tenorman would suggest. He was a one hit wonder....I heard him live at the Vanguard with Cherry....he sucked.....not every jazz musicians is a genius over his lifetime..... Quote
John L Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 Nope. There is some gorgeous James Clay on this one too: Quote
JSngry Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 He was a one hit wonder....I heard him live at the Vanguard with Cherry....he sucked.....not every jazz musicians is a genius over his lifetime..... I heard him in any number of local joints over the course of 20 or so years, and I tell you that he could be erratic. But often enough, one end of the erratic spectrum would be sheer brilliance. Records & New York are true as far as they go, but they don't go everywhere,,, Quote
kh1958 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 On the occasions I heard him he sounded like a very good Texas tenor. Not as distinctive as David Newman, but still a very nice player. Quote
kh1958 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 I think the last I saw him was the live performance for the Return to the Wide Open Spaces recording. He's not that well recorded on the released recording, but live it was pretty exciting with a David Newman, James Clay, Leroy Hog Cooper saxophone section, as well as Cornell Dupree on Guitar and Elis Marsalis on piano. Quote
Soul Stream Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 I know for many years, James worked in a record distribution warehouse in Dallas. I knew a guy who worked there with him for years. James said jazz didn't pay the bills and he had children to put through college. I'm glad he did make sort of a comeback after all those years of heavy lifting. What a shame he couldn't have been more active during his career. I'm a huge fan of Tenorman. Would to have loved to seen him live like Jim did. To have seen James Clay and Marchel Ivery together in Dallas on a good night back then....THAT would have been a night! Quote
JSngry Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 To have seen James Clay and Marchel Ivery together in Dallas on a good night back then....THAT would have been a night! Yep. Nothing like that on record by either one of them. And factor in Red Garland on piano... Quote
Soul Stream Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 To have seen James Clay and Marchel Ivery together in Dallas on a good night back then....THAT would have been a night! Yep. Nothing like that on record by either one of them. And factor in Red Garland on piano... DAMN YOU SANGREY! Quote
catesta Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 James Clay was still delivering on that one: You got that right. Not a bad James Clay on here either. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 I like James Clay. I'd take some Clay to a desert island, if I could also take plenty of Newman, Moore, Jacquet, Cobb, Felder, Ervin, Manning, Scott, Amy, Theus, Tate, Johnson, Wilkerson, Carrol... MG Quote
Brad Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 I'm no expert but every one of the Clay albums is prized. Quote
Bluesman Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 I don't know about paying 2K for the vinyl, but I just picked up a beautifully remastered TOCJ of Tenorman from Japan for $12. Quote
brownie Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 Fresh Sound is releasing this James Clay disc: Dustygroove's comment on the release: Some key recordings by Texas tenorman James Clay -- all sides he made upon first hitting the LA scene of the mid 50s -- served up here as one core album, plus great bonus tracks! 8 of the 14 titles on the CD are from the rare Jazz West session Tenorman -- a date recorded under the leadership of drummer Lawrence Marable in 1956! The group was an LA one, but it featured members from other parts of the country -- drummer Lawrence Marable, bassist Jimmy Bond, pianist Sonny Clark, and Texas tenorman James Clay, whose rich tone and soulful inventiveness dominate the session. The whole thing's got a wonderfully laidback groove -- like some of the best Sonny Criss work on Imperial -- and apart from a brief CD reissue in the 80s, the material's always been quite tough to find. Titles include "Airtight", "Easy Living", "Minor Meeting", "Marbles", and "Three Fingers North". The bonus tracks here are all from the same stretch -- and really help expand out the same sound. One title features Clay working with Bobby Timmons on piano, Jimmy Bond on bass, and Peter Littman on drums, on "In A Sentimental Mood"; one more features Clay with a quartet that features Lorraine Geller on piano, playing "It's Alright With Me" on the Stars Of Jazz TV Show; and the last 4 numbers feature Clay and Geller with Red Mitchell on bass and Billy Higgins on drums, working in the studio on "Scrapple From The Apple", "Out Of The Blue", "Sandu", and "Cheek To Cheek". Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 I've got the Fresh Sound LP release of "Tenorman". The other material looks a bit bitty. Anyone heard it? MG Quote
Morganized Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 I've got the Fresh Sound LP release of "Tenorman". The other material looks a bit bitty. Anyone heard it? MG Don't have Tenorman but these last 4 numbers feature Clay and Geller with Red Mitchell on bass and Billy Higgins on drums, working in the studio on "Scrapple From The Apple", "Out Of The Blue", "Sandu", and "Cheek To Cheek". can be found on the OJC release Presenting Red Mitchell Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 I've got the Fresh Sound LP release of "Tenorman". The other material looks a bit bitty. Anyone heard it? MG Don't have Tenorman but these last 4 numbers feature Clay and Geller with Red Mitchell on bass and Billy Higgins on drums, working in the studio on "Scrapple From The Apple", "Out Of The Blue", "Sandu", and "Cheek To Cheek". can be found on the OJC release Presenting Red Mitchell Aha! Thanks! MG Quote
mikefok Posted February 10, 2007 Report Posted February 10, 2007 His performance in Don Cherry's Art Deco is amazing. Quote
zen archer Posted February 10, 2007 Report Posted February 10, 2007 Thanks to this thread i purchased his riverside cd and Love It!.....Thanks! Quote
J.A.W. Posted February 10, 2007 Report Posted February 10, 2007 (edited) Thanks to this thread i purchased his riverside cd and Love It!.....Thanks! Which one? There were two, and both were reissued on Original Jazz Classics: The Sound of the Wide Open Spaces - Original Jazz Classics 257 (with David "Fathead" Newman) and A Double Dose of Soul - Original Jazz Classics 1790 Edited February 10, 2007 by J.A.W. Quote
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