Kyo Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 Well, the good news is they are also reissuing Joe Zawinul's Zawinul -- I've never heard that one. Am I missing some kind of irony here? It's still easily available from Warner - since 1988... Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 It seems George Benson's Good King Bad will be among the first Mosaic Contemporary releases in early April. That's great as I've been trying to hunt down an affordable copy of the 1989 CD edition for quite some time! Let's hope they also release some of the CTI stuff that's never been on CD! Is the Mosaic going to be the same as the 1989 edition? MG Quote
montg Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 Interesting that this new label is still absent from the mosaic website. Quote
king ubu Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 Well, the good news is they are also reissuing Joe Zawinul's Zawinul -- I've never heard that one. Am I missing some kind of irony here? It's still easily available from Warner - since 1988... and it's a stone classic, including its cover: Quote
Guy Berger Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 Well, the good news is they are also reissuing Joe Zawinul's Zawinul -- I've never heard that one. Am I missing some kind of irony here? It's still easily available from Warner - since 1988... OOP in the US. Guy Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 Well, the good news is they are also reissuing Joe Zawinul's Zawinul -- I've never heard that one. Am I missing some kind of irony here? It's still easily available from Warner - since 1988... OOP in the US. Guy What kind of a business plan can Mosaic have for this? It's nuts. You can get it from Amazon.co.uk new for £4.97 about $10 plus post. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zawinul-Joe/dp/B00...5279&sr=8-5 Mosaic of all companies realises that it's in an international market? MG Quote
king ubu Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 Well, the good news is they are also reissuing Joe Zawinul's Zawinul -- I've never heard that one. Am I missing some kind of irony here? It's still easily available from Warner - since 1988... OOP in the US. Guy What kind of a business plan can Mosaic have for this? It's nuts. You can get it from Amazon.co.uk new for £4.97 about $10 plus post. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zawinul-Joe/dp/B00...5279&sr=8-5 Mosaic of all companies realises that it's in an international market? MG see below... Well, the good news is they are also reissuing Joe Zawinul's Zawinul -- I've never heard that one. Am I missing some kind of irony here? It's still easily available from Warner - since 1988... OOP in the US. Guy merikins expect us to buy everything from the US but don't look no further to get "Zawinul"... their loss, I say! Quote
king ubu Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 Guy, don't take this as a personal attack... it was just that your post did fit so nicely with my point... Quote
jazzbo Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 It's all so weird. Right now on cduniverse you can preorder the Mosaic/Contemporary, or you can buy the Atlantic cd (import? doesn't say) for a dollar less. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 It's all so weird. Right now on cduniverse you can preorder the Mosaic/Contemporary, or you can buy the Atlantic cd (import? doesn't say) for a dollar less. Hah! I'm not in the market for either version of this one. And there's a second hand copy of "Bad Benson" in Cardiff, which I'll pick up next time I'm in town. MG Quote
chris olivarez Posted March 18, 2007 Report Posted March 18, 2007 Well after scanning through all of this I concluded I'll be staying away from this label in droves but if it greases the wheel for the other Mosaics and puts those Airto CTI's in my hands then I'll be ok with it. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 waitwa iwatwaiwtawiawt i thought mosaiic contemporary was going to issue new recordings by classic artists-- eg the new charles toliver, etc--- they are also going to reissue single issue CTI albums?!?!? obviously mosaic COMPLETELY SOLD OUT with EMI in order to get their jazz box set rights and now they have to suffer by becomming EMIs little bitch. mosaic is compeletly screwed. they are like a junkie who keeps thinking that the next fix will be the last. first its mosaics, then mosiac selects, then those mosaic single issues, and now this quagmire of a shitpile. if michael cuscana shaved his beard and numbered each hair in a little box would you all buy one of a few of them? Quote
sidewinder Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 if michael cuscana shaved his beard and numbered each hair in a little box would you all buy one of a few of them? Only if it was signed. Quote
Bluerein Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 I'd buy all his hair in a second. I really like the yellowish color of them (smoking does some good after all....) Quote
Tom Storer Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 I have no idea whether the "contemporary" stuff will sell, but presumably they're not doing this on a wild guess. In any case I don't see how it can hurt their box and Select sales. Who will stop buying those just because they don't like Mosaic Contemporary? Can I see a show of hands? Quote
ghost of miles Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Posted March 19, 2007 In the announcement e-mail they sent out today, they refer to building a separate website for Mosaic Contemporary. I suppose that could simply mean a new page on the existing Mosaic site, but still had a kind of "other side of the tracks" sound to it. Quote
RDK Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 I have no idea whether the "contemporary" stuff will sell, but presumably they're not doing this on a wild guess. In any case I don't see how it can hurt their box and Select sales. Who will stop buying those just because they don't like Mosaic Contemporary? Can I see a show of hands? Well I for one won't buy a damn thing if Cuscuna shaves off his beard... Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 I have no idea whether the "contemporary" stuff will sell, but presumably they're not doing this on a wild guess. In any case I don't see how it can hurt their box and Select sales. Who will stop buying those just because they don't like Mosaic Contemporary? Can I see a show of hands? Well I for one won't buy a damn thing if Cuscuna shaves off his beard... I didn't know he had a beard. How could anyone with a beard produce Cornell Dupree's "Teasin'"? Or perhaps he wasn't old enough for a beard in 1974... MG Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Notice the differences - different producer, marketed "openly" right off the bat. I think this is someone with money paying Mosaic for the use of the name. Depending on the $$$, could be a good deal in the short run. Might be a problem "long time". I'd love to see the contract. Quote
Chas Posted March 20, 2007 Report Posted March 20, 2007 ....I think this is someone with money paying Mosaic for the use of the name.... I don't understand this . What possible cachet could the Mosaic brand have for someone interested in Earl Klugh or Alex Bugnon ?? I mean , if Mosaic was a purveyor of bottled water or organic food or some other 'lifestyle' product then maybe , but this branding strategy makes no sense whatsoever . Mosaic's press release states that their mission is , " to fill a vacuum where the established recording industry is lax " . An Amazon search for Earl Klugh yields 96 results , including a two-volume 'best-of' compilation . Also notable is that the resale value of some of these titles is in the one or two dollar range ! So in the case of Klugh at least , we have a market that is already well-served , and with a secondary market exerting extreme downward pressure on new-issue price points . Seems to me like a poorly thought-out venture born of financial necessity . Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 20, 2007 Report Posted March 20, 2007 (edited) ....I think this is someone with money paying Mosaic for the use of the name.... I don't understand this . What possible cachet could the Mosaic brand have for someone interested in Earl Klugh or Alex Bugnon ?? Mosaic provides access to the "major labels" for "product". The label name also carries the "quality" label for a small segment of the audience and that is worth something. Edited March 20, 2007 by Chuck Nessa Quote
Ken Dryden Posted March 20, 2007 Report Posted March 20, 2007 One man's Boone's Farm is another Chateau Lafitte Rothschild (or however it's spelled, it's out of my price range, in any case). The offerings on Mosaic Contemporary will be like Boone's Farm to me; I've never heard a smooth jazz release that merited playing on my stereo. And three laughs at the hapless writer who described David Sanborn as "one of the greatest saxophonists of all time" in the very uneven Legends of Jazz boxed set. Quote
RDK Posted March 20, 2007 Report Posted March 20, 2007 ....I think this is someone with money paying Mosaic for the use of the name.... I don't understand this . What possible cachet could the Mosaic brand have for someone interested in Earl Klugh or Alex Bugnon ?? I mean , if Mosaic was a purveyor of bottled water or organic food or some other 'lifestyle' product then maybe , but this branding strategy makes no sense whatsoever . Mosaic's press release states that their mission is , " to fill a vacuum where the established recording industry is lax " . An Amazon search for Earl Klugh yields 96 results , including a two-volume 'best-of' compilation . Also notable is that the resale value of some of these titles is in the one or two dollar range ! So in the case of Klugh at least , we have a market that is already well-served , and with a secondary market exerting extreme downward pressure on new-issue price points . Seems to me like a poorly thought-out venture born of financial necessity . Maybe instead of Klugh/Bugnon (on the labels) the music will actually be Braxton Aristas or Strata East sides - Mosaic's way of slipping the good stuff out there under the guise of smooth jazz. Quote
Chas Posted March 20, 2007 Report Posted March 20, 2007 Maybe instead of Klugh/Bugnon (on the labels) the music will actually be Braxton Aristas or Strata East sides - Mosaic's way of slipping the good stuff out there under the guise of smooth jazz. 'Culture-jam' for our bread Quote
Brad Posted March 23, 2007 Report Posted March 23, 2007 I can't imagine buying anything from this label. That was a 70s phase I don't need to (or want to) revisit. Quote
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