DRD Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Tjader B. -- I'm with you on the cross pollination, but while Pres certainly was influenced by Trumbauer (and acknowledged the influence) he specifically denied, in his late-'50s Jazz Hot interview, that he had been influenced by Bud. That doesn't prove that he wasn't, just that he said he wasn't. Also, as more than one person has pointed out before, if Pres dug Tram, he almost certainly had to be picking up on what Bix was playing alongside Tram on "Singing the Blues" et al. Larry, That is interesting about what Prez said in the interview. My dad William knew Lester Young. He started going to Lester's gigs when he was a young man in St. Louis. Over the years, he got to know him fairly well and saw him at the Blackhawk in San Francisco a number of times. Dad says Lester spoke very little and often wouldn't announce the tunes he was playing. The other musicians just had to be quick and knowledegable. He recalls that Prez said he was influenced by Trumbauer but can't remember for sure if Freeman was mentioned. I would agree with you that Lester probably did like Bix as well. But the liner notes to the Aladdin Prez collection confirm that Prez must have acknowledged Freeman. But Prez was an eccentric and a drunk and therefore was quite unpredictable. He acknowledged Freeman early and then dropped him later. Who knows why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Bud was one of the great tenors, with his own sound. Ya gotta hand it to a guy when you can always tell it's him as soon as you hear him. I got to rap with him in 1964 after the show when he was on tour with Eddie Condon. Real gentleman! I remember he told me that he used a Rico #2, brown box, just like little me! In the interview in Paris on the Verve box set, Pres said that he was influenced by Trumbauer, but not by Bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Anyone heard that 'Bud Freeman in London' LP on Fontana where he is decked out in a business suit, bowler hat and brollie? I've always wondered what that one was like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Anyone heard that 'Bud Freeman in London' LP on Fontana where he is decked out in a business suit, bowler hat and brollie? I've always wondered what that one was like. Who's on that one? I heard Bud in London in the early '70s at a Sunday jazz brunch at some hotel, with saxophonist Johnny Barnes and trombonist Roy Williams (both very good players) alongside Bud in the front line. It was fine mainstream Swing -- less programmed that the later World's Greatest Jazz Band things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Anyone heard that 'Bud Freeman in London' LP on Fontana where he is decked out in a business suit, bowler hat and brollie? I've always wondered what that one was like. Who's on that one? I heard Bud in London in the early '70s at a Sunday jazz brunch at some hotel, with saxophonist Johnny Barnes and trombonist Roy Williams (both very good players) alongside Bud in the front line. It was fine mainstream Swing -- less programmed that the later World's Greatest Jazz Band things. Slight correction on the title I gave Larry - it's 'Bud Freeman Esq.' I think - with Dick Katz, Spike Heatley and Tony Crombie. Recorded in the mid-60s I think. I believe that Bud was resident for a period here in the late 70s and became very much an 'honourary Brit'. He was frequently doing gigs around London (especially the Bulls Head, Barnes). I'm just sorry I never caught any of them. Remember seeing Roy Williams some years ago too. Superb technically and one of the best of the British mainstream players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 (edited) Speaking of later Freeman recordings, I was just listening to "The Compleat Bud Freeman" (recorded in 1969) and enjoyed it. https://www.jazzology.com/item_detail.php?id=JCD-165 Is it "monotonous" as Balliett suggested? There are certainly no fireworks, it's all very relaxed and he stays close to the melody, but I find it charming... Edited September 15 by hopkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 On 3/8/2007 at 10:15 PM, sidewinder said: Anyone heard that 'Bud Freeman in London' LP on Fontana where he is decked out in a business suit, bowler hat and brollie? I've always wondered what that one was like. It's 17 years later... But I got that album, Bud Freeman Esq, some time last year and played it quite a bit, it's excellent imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 (edited) On 9/15/2024 at 2:14 PM, Niko said: It's 17 years later... But I got that album, Bud Freeman Esq, some time last year and played it quite a bit, it's excellent imho Wow - blast from the past. Since then, I have got a copy of this LP. I need to dig this one out again (if I can find it !) Bud fitted in seamlessly as a 'London gent'. Edited September 23 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 the resurrection of this topic caused my current listening - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 I was in the area as well this afternoon, playing this nice compilation with late 20s recordings I found in my lunch break... Freeman is on 6 of the 16 tracks... (this album is PMC 7072, PMC 7070 was The Beatles with Yellow Submarine...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 4 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: the resurrection of this topic caused my current listening - I could not resist ordering it (second hand of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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