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Hi RDK: - Thanks fo your respons. I'm going to walk through your commends and will insert some suggestions !! - mind that some tracks already have been labeled, so I'm not going to discuss these tracks extensively

1. Love the raucousness of this one. Feels on the verge of being out-of-control, but that’s what makes it really work for me.

A nice opening track I think. It was already labeled as BENTJE BRAAM, the group of Michiel Braam.

2. Chick Corea trio?

No, it's not Chick corea - I think he'll like that. No this Dutch piano player is now working on an international career and, maybe a bit strange, he's rather known in the Middle East - in ................. Qatar due to an opera he made.

3. Woody Shaw?

No, this one is a Art Blakey track, already found by Sidewinder.

4. Tune sounds very familiar; I’m sure I’ll kick myself for having this one somewhere in the collection. Kenny Burrell on guitar?

No, it isn't Kenny Burrell - it's Philip Catherine and his quartet featuring Bert Joris on trumpet. also traced by Sidewinder.

5. Very nice. I’m detecting a pattern here: really classy, well-played, emotive jazz.

This is a track difficult to find out - it seems. I already suggested that the alto saxophone player won a price here in Holland and that he made a tour along jazz clubs in thre Netherlands. Last month I heard him playing and I was fascinated by his style. The piano player was not at that concert - he had studied with Jaki Byard and that is the reason this CD was made. The piano player is from France.

6. Bossa Nova-ish. Love the sax part around 2:30 in.

This track is a Cyrus Chestnut composition, and played by his quartet featuring James Carter on alto and Ron Carter on bas. Mike Weill found out !!

7. Nothing bad per se, but this one’s not really doing it for me. If I had to pick a least-favorite track this might be it. Though listening again, that guitar solo is tasty. :w

8. Nice, but no clue.

Already labeled as the Trio Pim Jacobs by Couw, but no title or recording date so-far.

9. Geez, I’m having brain fart and can’t think of the title of this very familiar tune. Anyway, it’s got a wonderful sense of humor throughout, especially from the pianist (or are there two of them?).

You're right it is a well known tune, but, like me, all Monk composition are diffiuclut to name. The piano player really astonisged me, so I can imagine that you thinks there are two palyer. No, there's only one piano player. He's French, living in the US.

10. Konitz?

No, Herb Geller. But who's that great accompanist on piano?

11. More funk than jazz to my ears, but that’s cool.

Don Ellis Big Band

12. “What is this Thing…” Nice boppish version, but really nothing too unique. Distortion (LP? Bootleg?) gets in the way a bit.

No, not a bootleg, but a live recording from Swiss radio. Already found out that this is the All Star Quintet of Roberta Gambarini, with Roy Hargrove, David Gazarov, Jimmy Woode and Willie Jones III.

13. Another familiar tune. I like this a lot as well. Very loose playing – it lets everyone stretch out and say their thing.

Yes, this is Konitz and Brad Mehldau and Charlie Haden on that great Blue Note album Alone Together. Already mentioned.

14. Are we at the circus? ;) Lots o’ fun!

Yep ... Willem Breuker Kollektief with Toby Rix as the Dutch Spike Jones

Thanks RDK for your suggestions. As you can learn a lot of tracks are already found, but there are still some great recordings to play on your stereo with, up to now, unknown artists. Good luck !!

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So that's Roy Hargrove? With Ray Brown? Willie Jones III on drums? (#12 I mean)

Roy Hargrove is the trumpet player and of course Willie Jones III on drums. Correct !!

But Ray Brown should have been 77 and my bass player is more a youngster ... 75 years old at this recording !!

Both players passed away recently.

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Jimmy Woode played in that band, I think. On piano then Ronnie Matthews?

Great King Ubu, but the piano player is not Ronnie Matthews, but David Gazarov, both playing in the same style - so i can imagine that you mixed up both piano players. Gazarov is the speaker ......

It's from a airshot of the Swiss radio from the International Jazz Festival in Bern. I heard this vocalist and band in the Porgy en Bess Jazz club in Terneuzen ( The Netherlands) ( my club) and was fascinated by the singing of Roberta Gambarini and I posted a message on internet that I had learned that to my utter amazement Roberta Gambarina had never made a recording, although she was active as a jazz vocalist in Italy and the US for years. Thanks to a Swiss collector ( was it you? :blush: ) I got this airshot. And of course it felt as an honor to be in the same room as Jimmy Woode, the humble bassplayer who played with all great stars of the 1950s, from Sidney Bechet, Duke Ellington, Billie Holiday up to Sarah Vaughan, Ella Fitzgerald and Johnny Hodges.

BTW: Roberta Gambarini recently made some albums !!

This is the info for this track:

12. What Is This Thing Called Love ( Porter ) 9:18

Roberta Gambarini All Star Quintet: ( Roberta Gambarini vo – not on this track), Roy Hargrove tp, David Gazarov p, Jimmy Woode b, Willie Jones III. Recorded at the International Jazz festival Bern (Switzerland), 24 April 2003 ( radio program)

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Hm, I have Mathews listed as pianist on that recording, but I still have it on tapes somewhere (so no, you didn't get it from me - I have seen it on others lists, too, but mine still needs to be digitized...). I guesss Gazarov is announced? I am totally unfamiliar with him.

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Sorry to be so late to the party. Things have been busy here.

Never mind JSNgr - the most welcome visitors often arrive late ...... Welcome !!

Mind that a lot of tracks have been traced already so I won't give an extensive explanation for those tracks. Of course I'm anxious for the unfound information.

TRACK ONE - Interesting. At first I didn't think I was going to like it, as it had an air of "cuteness" to it that never really left. I really don't like cuteness. But as the solos went on, it got better for me and cute turned into fun, which I do like. The tenorist seems to be caught between Warnedom & someplace else, but the altoist speaks confidently all the way through. Pianist's comping is ok to listen to, but I'd hate to have him playing behind me. Too much "direction", but maybe it's his group, in which case he's entitled. One thing I really like is the recording quality, very live and natural sounding, with a sense of getting the sound from all angles of the room instead of just the ones in front. A live recording should have that quality, but not all of 'em do.

The piano player is the leader, the composer and arranger of the band, titled BENTJE BRAAM. His name is Michiel Braam and this recording was made at the Villa VPRO in Hilversum (The Netherlands) as the group received the VPRO/Boy Edgar Price. The VPRO is a radio station, so that might explain the good sound quality.

TRACK TWO - What the drummer is playing at the beginning is the type of thing that's now being done in the more "advanced" forms of dance music of today, as is, to a lesser extent, the main melody of the piece. So that caught my ear right away. The piece as a whole, though, seems to be a third or fourth generation "Now He Sings..." type thing, and as such, hey, it's been done, and done quite well. But everybody plays well and sounds sincere. I just can't get excited about it, but that's my problem.

The tune is composed by the piano player and is "new" as far as my inofrmation goes. Up to now no-one gave any information about the members of this group, although I gave a lot of interesting information, like the fact that this Dutch piano player is known in Qatar due to an opera. I think it should be easy to find out ther name of that man.

TRACK THREE - Geez, I think I have this one. Sure sounds familiar. Either a latter-day Blakey thing

or one of the various knockoffs/spinoffs. Of course, the changes are those of "Lazy Bird", some really fine changes to hear, and some really tough ones to blow on. It's good, but again, it's all been done, and with more immediacy. But as a display of honest craftsmanship, this is as good as anything. I kinda like the pianist, he seems to be telling a story more than do the horn players.

The piano player is the late James Williams - a great musician. Yes it is Art Blakey with his Messengers, just a few years before Wynton Marsalis became a member. The fact that I took this one is because of the fact that I heard Blakey with this personel.

3. E.T.A. ( nn ) ( 4:54 )

Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers: Art Blakey dm, Valery Ponomarev tp, Robert Watson as, David Schnitter ts, James Williams p, Dennis Irwin b. Recorded NYC, 4 Dec. 1978 ( Timeless CD SJP 319 )

TRACK FOUR - "Time after Time", one of my favorite standards. Sounds like it might be Chet, but I'll not commit to that. Guitarist is playing! Nice, but a little short to make too much of a really impactful statement. Pleasant enough, though, and the type of thing you like to hear on the radis.

This track was recognized as one of the first by Sidewinder and the trumpet player is Bert Joris who has a kind of tone that reminds to Chet Baker. The guitar player is Philip Catherine

TRACK FIVE - What a nice tune! Sounds like a Los Angeles altoist, based on tone & articulation, but I can't make any guesses. Frank Strozier also comes to mind, but the tone's a little too broad for him. Nice, even if they get deeper into the mechanics of the tune than the emotions of it. That's understandable enough when a tune is this nice.

This is the second track that gives a lot of troubles to label. It is not an US alto player, but a Dutchman and as I suggested before, he won an important Dutch price last year. Has, except for this quartet, also a group, named New Cool Collective, which brings danceball music, very popular to the youngster.

TRACK SIX - These players sound really familiar. Leo Wright on alto? Drummer's really copped his Blakey. Don't at all like how the altoist is pulled back in the mix relative to the rhythm section. Sounds like it might be the same pianist as on the previous cut, that florid, two-handed approach. Again, pleasant.

This track happenbs to bre Cyrus Chestnut op piano with James Carter on alto saxophone. The piano player in track 5 is French. The drummer is Billy Higgins. Mike Weill found this information.

TRACK SEVEN - No clue, but I like the idea of it! :g

This is indeed the most difficult track for you to find out and I won't be disappointed it youcan't find it. :crazy:

TRACK EIGHT - Vintage, I'm sure, not a revisitation. Sounds like a Horace trio cut. Definitely somebody influenced by Horace, and in the same time period. There's nuances in this that guys who come along years later just can't do, because one is an original expression and the other's "playing a style". My preference is for the former, and this cut works for me just fine.

It's a historical one and already pointed to the Pim Jacobs Trio; it is his first recording, but so-far no-one seems to have a Dutch Jazz and Blues Discography to trace this one or no one who has this great compilation Jazz Behind The Dykes.

TRACK NINE - "Rhythm-a-ning". Too much cuteness (and "smart" cuteness at that) in there for me. Sorry.

You like this piano player or you hate his style. I was fascinated when I heard him live for the very first time.

TRACK TEN - "Cheryl", one of my favorite Bird blues heads. Hell, the head itself is enough to digest at a single sitting! Pianist is deep into the bebop vernacular. Altoist again suggest Leo Wright, at least in tone. Fine playing by all concerned.

The alto saxophone player is Herb Geller, but no-one seems to know who this skilled Dutch bebop piano player is, who, seemingly tireles, brings the old bebop generation to Europe. Last month he accompanied Bud Shank in a tour and the last years I heard him with Gary Smulyan, James Spaulding, David Fathead Newman, Sonny Fortune, Houston Person and Herb Geller. For me, this piano player, with his snow-white hair, is the major key figure that brings the old beboppers to the Netherlands.

TRACK ELEVEN - Ok, this one I know. Don Ellis at the Filmore. Don't remember the tile of the composition, though. I think there might be more to get out of Ellis' music than he himself always got out it. I'd like to hear what he would do in the environment of today's underground dance music, because in this cut (and many others), I hear ideas about the function & distribution of rhythm that are being used today in that scen. Of course, that shit's all in 4/4... :g But this one flows naturally, and yeah, I think you could, maybe even should, dance to it. That was the thing about Ellis' best bands, they had played the shit long enough to where the "odd meters" came naturally to them, and they could get past the level of just making sure they played the charts right. Much love for that from me, and these days I really like the notion of rhythm being something to viscerally feel, something you gotta confront and not just sit down, lay back, and take for granted.

You're right:

11. Antea ( Levy) 5:53

Don Ellis Big Band. Recorded Live at Bill Graham’s Fillmore West in San Francisco 18-21 June 1970. ( Don Ellis at Fillmore )

The reason why I took this one is because the story how I learned about this LP is very special ...... The story about Don Ellis At Fillmore

TRACK TWELVE - It's not a "thing"! Sounds like that Thad/Mel quartet thing recorded at an airport lounge in Florida. Yeah, Thad was a motherfucker as a player. That's still not as widely recognized as it shoud be, imo. And Mel, what a driver he was! But wait, you don't say thank you in German in Florida, at least not as a rule... So hell, I don't know. Maybe it's not Thad. The more I liste, it's probably not. Oh well. But it's a keeper whoever it is, my favorite of this disc. And Thad was a motherfucker as a player.

Before giving some extra information about this track I have to confess that King Ubu is right when he says that RONNIE MATTHEWS was the piano player and not DAVID GAZAROV. I will try to explain how I found out and how it probably happened that I used wrong information. Sorry King Ubu :blush: I took this one because I heard this group playing as the all star group behind Roberta Gambarini ( not on this track). I told about Jimmy Woode, that nestor of jazz and Willie Jones III, Roy's driving drummer. Roy, my favorite trumpet player is present on this track too. This is a live recording air shot for Swiss radio ( that's why the paino player speaks German) and I love the informal way these man play as if it is a jam session.

TRACK THIRTEEN - Ok, that's Lee doing "Cherokee" w/Haden & Mehldau on BN. Those two sides were both gems, especially the ballads. Lee don't play licks (well, he does, but you know what I mean - his playing is not based on them), Lee plays music. Sometimes it works better than others, but them's the risks you take to be real. Like I said, I like the ballads from these albums the best, but this is still love-Lee! :g

:tup

TRACK FOURTEEN - Oh my! If they want to be happy, I can only wonder what condition they're in now... ;)

They're still alive and kicking .......

14. I Want To Be Happy ( Vincent Youmans ) 1:23

Willem Breuker Kollektief ( featuring Toby Rix – toeterix ) Recorded live in Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam Dec. 1988 ( Metropolis – Willem Breuker Kollektief (BV Haast CD 8903 ) )

Much thanks to Durium for a collection that provided little of familiarity and much of quailty!

Thanks, JSngry, although being one of my last invited guest I guess, thanks fo being at my party. I hope you liked it :party:

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So that's Roy Hargrove? With Ray Brown? Willie Jones III on drums? (#12 I mean)

Roy Hargrove is the trumpet player and of course Willie Jones III on drums. Correct !!

But Ray Brown should have been 77 and my bass player is more a youngster ... 75 years old at this recording !!

Both players passed away recently.

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Durium

Jimmy Woode played in that band, I think. On piano then Ronnie Matthews?

Great King Ubu, but the piano player is not Ronnie Matthews, but David Gazarov, both playing in the same style - so i can imagine that you mixed up both piano players. Gazarov is the speaker ......

It's from a airshot of the Swiss radio from the International Jazz Festival in Bern. I heard this vocalist and band in the Porgy en Bess Jazz club in Terneuzen ( The Netherlands) ( my club) and was fascinated by the singing of Roberta Gambarini and I posted a message on internet that I had learned that to my utter amazement Roberta Gambarina had never made a recording, although she was active as a jazz vocalist in Italy and the US for years. Thanks to a Swiss collector ( was it you? :blush: ) I got this airshot. And of course it felt as an honor to be in the same room as Jimmy Woode, the humble bassplayer who played with all great stars of the 1950s, from Sidney Bechet, Duke Ellington, Billie Holiday up to Sarah Vaughan, Ella Fitzgerald and Johnny Hodges.

BTW: Roberta Gambarini recently made some albums !!

This is the info for this track:

12. What Is This Thing Called Love ( Porter ) 9:18

Roberta Gambarini All Star Quintet: ( Roberta Gambarini vo – not on this track), Roy Hargrove tp, David Gazarov p, Jimmy Woode b, Willie Jones III. Recorded at the International Jazz festival Bern (Switzerland), 24 April 2003 ( radio program)

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Hm, I have Mathews listed as pianist on that recording, but I still have it on tapes somewhere (so no, you didn't get it from me - I have seen it on others lists, too, but mine still needs to be digitized...). I guesss Gazarov is announced? I am totally unfamiliar with him.

I wondered why you were so sure, so I played the original record of this airshot and both the Swiss announcer says that Ronnie Matthews is the piano player and at the end of What Is This Thing Called Love, the piano player introduces the members of the band and says ...... I'm Ronnie Matthews and I'm playing the Piano .............. :blush::blush::blush::blush::blush::rofl:

You're right King Ubu :tup Sorry.

What went wrong? In the track list I made for this air shot I have mentioned David Gazarov instead of Ronnie Matthews, problably because I might have thought that the line up of the band was the same as the line up of the group I heard at the Porgy en Bess Jazz Club in Terneuzen ( The Netherlands) ( 16th of November 2003 on which occasion David Gazarov played the piano.

Sorry King Ubu, again ..... - you're complete right. :tup

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Hey, no problem, mistakes do happen!

That live broadcast, by the way, was the first time I heard Gambarini, and I was impressed enough to start a thread about her (I think that was on AAJ, back in mid 2003 when I was still posting there).

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