What James Brown Are You Spinnin'

[Soulstation1]

disc # 01

Edited December 25, 2006 by Soulstation1

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disc # 02

[Soulstation1]

Prisoner Of Love / Please Please Please

james in classic form

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

In a few minutes

(Can you) feel it - King 45

Maybe good, maybe bad - King 45

JAMES BROWN (ORG) WITH MCKINLEY “MACK” JOHNSON, RON TOOLEY, JOE DUPARS, ROBERT KNIGHT (TP), WILMER MILTON (TB), NAT JONES (AS), ST CLAIR PINCKNEY, ELDEE WILLIAMS, BRISCO CLARK (TS) MACEO PARKER (TS, BS), AL “FATS” GONDER OR BOBBY BYRD (ORG-1), LES BUIE (G), SAM THOMAS, BERNARD ODUM (B), MELVIN PARKER OR OBIE WILLIAMS (D)

CHICAGO?, MAY? 1964

Still my all time favourite JB, after almost 42 years in my shelves.

I expect to move on to

JAMES BROWN (ORG, P) WITH JOE DUPARS, WAYMON REED, RONALD LEE HARPER (TP), LEVI RASBURY (TP, VTB), NAT JONES (AS), ST CLAIR PINCKNEY, ELDEE WILLIAMS, ALFRED “PEE WEE” ELLIS (TS), CHARLES CARR (BS), JIMMY NOLEN (G, B), BERNARD ODUM (B), JOHN “JABO” STARKS (D), THE JEWELS (FEMALE BK VO)

CRITERIA STUDIOS, MIAMI, 7 FEBRUARY 1966

JAMES BROWN (ORG, G), WITH RON TOOLEY, JOE DUPARS, LEVI RASBURY, TEDDY WASHINGTON (TP), UNKNOWN (TB), NAT JONES (AS, P), ST CLAIR PINCKNEY, ELDEE WILLIAMS, CLIFFORD MACMILLAN (TS) CHARLES CARR (BS), JIMMY NOLAN, ALPHONSO KELLUM (G), BERNARD ODUM (B), MELVIN PARKER, OBIE WILLIAMS OR CLYDE STUBBLEFIELD (D)

PROB CRITERIA STUDIO, MIAMI, AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER 1965

MG

[Soulstation1]

JB Live Concert over on NPR

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

yes then theres the compainon album to grits i have on 8 track called NOTHIN BUT SOUL- also an instrumental organ record. the track i have, theres a sticker on the back that says 1985 PAN-AFRO EXHIBITION, exhibit #10034978. my james brown 8 track was used in 1985 in a museum or something as an exhibit to show how great black people are! hell yeah

[jazzbo]

The Hipo-Select singles two cd set. . . .

Damn, hard to believe he's gone.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

my buddies said they saw in CAlif. 3 flags @ 1/2 mast today for james, 1 at a power-plant, one at somewhere else, and 1 at a bank

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

next up : THINK and GOOD GOOD TWISTIN king long playing lp discs have both w/o covers!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

yes then theres the compainon album to grits i have on 8 track called NOTHIN BUT SOUL- also an instrumental organ record. the track i have, theres a sticker on the back that says 1985 PAN-AFRO EXHIBITION, exhibit #10034978. my james brown 8 track was used in 1985 in a museum or something as an exhibit to show how great black people are! hell yeah

I haven't got that one. Strange to think of that as a museum exhibit.

MG

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

More JB jazz on vinyl

JB's rap on "Soul of a black man" is one of the greatest things he ever did. And Maceo's solo!!!!

MG

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[Soulstation1]

Eddie Murphy's SNL JB Clip Edited December 26, 2006 by Soulstation1

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Playing some more JB jazz

MG

[Big Al]

Playing some more JB jazz

MG

That is one HELL of a collection! I'd be listening to it right now if I wasn't listening to the angry sports talk-shows roasting the Cowboys right now!

[ejp626]

Listened to Star Time Box Set Discs 2 and 3. What a performer. Cold Sweat is still mind-blowing, but I can't even imagine listening to it when it first broke. It must have been like nothing else on the charts.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Listened to Star Time Box Set Discs 2 and 3. What a performer. Cold Sweat is still mind-blowing, but I can't even imagine listening to it when it first broke. It must have been like nothing else on the charts.

No, seriously, it didn't seem all that earth-shattering at the time, because it had been preceded by records like "Out of sight", "Papa's got a brand new bag", "Money won't change you" and "Let yourself go". It was even sharper and harder than its predecessors, but we saw it as the culmination (so far) of what he'd been working up to for a few years. And JB wasn't the only one working in that field. Alvin Robinson's "Down home girl", a few years earlier, had been another chunk of incredible funk - about a million times GREEEEEAAAASSSIIIEEERRR than anything James Brown did, EVER. JB was more successful than any of the others and therefore he became the king.

I'm not putting JB down. But in the sixties there was REAL STUFF around. JB rose above that stuff - and on ability. But the rise was a progression, not a lightning strike. And after "Cold sweat", there was further development. In hindsight, in my view, "Doin' it to death" seems to have been the point beyond which JB's ideas developed no further (and even that mighty groove was foreshadowed by the jazz version of "Maybe the last time" from his 1965 album "Today & yesterday").

MG

[JSngry]

The one that really fucked me up was "I Got The Feelin' " Still does. Especially how on the bridge how the guitar takes the horn riff for what, two notes, and then gives it right back to 'em. "Insiders" credit Pee Wee Ellis w/putting the specifics of JB's funk into place, and I've got no problem w/that, but then again, no JB, no specifics to be bothered with in the first place. so... Linear-/literal-oriented white folk (of which I am one by birth, if not by destiny) have a problem with that "concept", but this so ain't about all that, nor none of all that, if you wish.

Now, when you talk Alvin Robinson, you're talking New Orleans, even if by inference, and that's a whole 'nother type of funk, although deinitely familial. Somewhere deep in the bowels of Lost History there's probably a geo-/personal- "missing link" thing going on, but so far, I'm not aware of it. But The South IS The South, even now, and shit gets around more than the headlines lead you to believe that you have believed.

[Soulstation1]

i just heard pappa's got a brand new bag at the wingstop

[JSngry]

Pank, gimme some WANG!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

The one that really fucked me up was "I Got The Feelin' " Still does. Especially how on the bridge how the guitar takes the horn riff for what, two notes, and then gives it right back to 'em. "Insiders" credit Pee Wee Ellis w/putting the specifics of JB's funk into place, and I've got no problem w/that, but then again, no JB, no specifics to be bothered with in the first place. so... Linear-/literal-oriented white folk (of which I am one by birth, if not by destiny) have a problem with that "concept", but this so ain't about all that, nor none of all that, if you wish.

Well, "Get it together" was the one that really GOT to us as a kind of revelation. Because it was clear that Brown was doing something no one had done before within the context of jazz, R&B or any kind of popular music; he was making up the words as he went along. Oh and Maceo was effin' hysterical!

Pee Wee was certainly responsible for the later material but it was Nat Jones who'd been the straw boss of the band before him, during the period up to 1966. Pee Wee took Nat's place when he died. (I think Nat was a veteran of Jack Travis' big band in Chicago - that's Dempsey J Travis, whose book on Chicago you put me onto.)

MG

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Disc # 04

Get up offa that thing (release the pressure) is a bad jam

[JSngry]

If you wanna believe Fred Wesley's book (recommended, btw), every one of JBs musical directors (including Wesley himself) faced the task of translating a set of half-articulated vocal sounds and body movements into an actual groovesong. Those were the specifics, and that's why I think the progression of JBs music can be traced by changes in MDs.

OTOH...

Although Wesley doesn't give JB any "real credit" for this, he does point out how the music would transform itself immediately when Brown would step in front of the band, if only to listen. He had a palpable kineticism to him that I can vouch for from the one time I saw him live, in 1981 at probably the low point of his career, palying in a loca club for no more than a few hundred, at most, people. He still kicked ass and left no room for doubt. He just projected this....thing, and you knew what it was, where it was, and that you damn well better get there or else be left in the dust.

That thing is something that neither Nat, nor Pee Wee, nor Fred, nor anybody else could make JB music without first getting to (I'll give Jimmy Nolan a pass, just because...good god, JIMMY NOLAN!), and that's why all those names, "important" as they are, don't mean shit unless considered as translators of something bigger than any of them, including, eventually, Brown himself. Although, let me risk apostasy here and suggest that this is not at all a bad album:

as well as that Brown was still capable of getting there himself damn near any time he wanted to. It's just that things change when you beat the woman bloody just for grins just because you can one too many times and she still sticks with you anyway. It's still love, but it ain't no ways "pure" anymore.

And yeah, I'm talking music. Bet on it.

[Soulstation1]

JB could sing a ballad

Prisoner Of Love

[Noj]

I'll be playing the playlist that has all these again...