brownie Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 Ornette, La Callas, and others... From AP: GRAMMYS TO HONOR DOORS, GRATEFUL DEAD NEW YORK (AP) — The Doors, the Grateful Dead and Joan Baez are among the recording artists who will receive lifetime achievement Grammy Awards next year. Other honorees include Maria Callas, Ornette Coleman, Bob Wills and Booker T. & The MG's, The Recording Academy announced Tuesday. The awards are decided by a vote of the group's national board of trustees. "This year's group of accomplished honorees are as diverse as they are influential as creators of the most renowned and prominent recordings in the world," Recording Academy President Neil Portnow said in a statement. "Their contributions exemplify the highest artistic and technical standards that have positively affected the music industry and music fans." The statuettes will be handed out during a ceremony before the main Grammys are handed out at the Staples Center in Los Angeles on Feb. 11. The 49th annual awards will air live on CBS, a division of CBS Corp. Stax Records co-founder Estelle Axton, Grammy-winning composer/lyricist Stephen Sondheim and recording engineer Cosimo Matassa will receive the Trustees Award, which recognizes outstanding contributions to the industry in a non-performing category. Quote
.:.impossible Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 Wow. I'd have never expected to see something like this. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 Am I right in assuming that Ornette hasn't ever even been nominated before, let alone won?? (I'm assuming "no" on both counts.) Quote
7/4 Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 I heard about this a few days ago! Quote
bertrand Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 I wonder if Ornette, Joan Baez and Ray Manzarek are going to jam together? Imagine the possibilities... Bertrand. Quote
JSngry Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 Wow. I'd have never expected to see something like this. The statuettes will be handed out during a ceremony before the main Grammys are handed out at the Staples Center in Los Angeles on Feb. 11. The 49th annual awards will air live on CBS, a division of CBS Corp. Unless you're there, it doesn't sound like you will... Quote
RDK Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 Where's Soy Bomb when you really need him? Quote
Quincy Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 Am I right in assuming that Ornette hasn't ever even been nominated before, let alone won?? (I'm assuming "no" on both counts.) Sound Grammar is up for Best Jazz Instrumental Album. I'd be surprised too if he had been nomiated before that. The Grammies can keep very busy giving lifetime awards to artists who were overlooked in their heyday. Quote
sal Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 Where's Soy Bomb when you really need him? Wouldn't that be great..... Quote
clifford_thornton Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 Sound Grammar is up for Best Jazz Instrumental Album. Awesome. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 The Grammies can keep very busy giving lifetime awards to artists who were overlooked in their heyday. Ain't THAT the truth. Same with the Oscars. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 Hope this makes OC happy. Beyond that it don't mean shit. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 Well, it's better than no grammy for OC. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 I think Estelle Axton & Cosimo Matassa are great selections for awards. MG Quote
Hank Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 I wonder if Ornette, Joan Baez and Ray Manzarek are going to jam together? Imagine the possibilities... Bertrand. I think Ornette jammed with Bob Wills way back when, but alas Wills is unavailable... Quote
flat5 Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 In 1966 I was playing with Johnny Baker (piano) at the Jukebox on Height Street (San Francisco). Ornette came in and sat at a table. Jonny actually got down on his hands and knees and begged Ornette to play. Ornette got embarassed or angry and left. He did not have a horn with him. He did have a tall lady. They were both dressed all in white. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted December 23, 2006 Report Posted December 23, 2006 I think Ornette jammed with Bob Wills way back when, but alas Wills is unavailable... I know Ornette really liked Bob Wills' music, but was unaware they played together. Quote
Hank Posted December 23, 2006 Report Posted December 23, 2006 (edited) I think Ornette jammed with Bob Wills way back when, but alas Wills is unavailable... I know Ornette really liked Bob Wills' music, but was unaware they played together. I can't find any exact dates, but there are a number of passing references to it, including this by Ornette himself in a 2004 interview: AC: How did growing up in Fort Worth affect your musical development? OC: When I grew up in Fort Worth, there was segregation, so if that's what you mean, I'd start with that. It didn't affect my brain, it just affected the fact that there were rules that you couldn't participate with other human beings, because of their race. And I'm not talking about segregation as a racial issue. I'm talking about it as an intellectual issue. Back then, Fort Worth's main enterprise was the packing industry. Two very large packing houses in Fort Worth distributed all of the meat sources that the country devours. So most of the music in Fort Worth was hillbilly music, or country & western music. ... The way it affected me was not finding people I could play with. That's the only effect I felt. When I was working/playing by myself, it didn't bother me, but when I tried to go out and play with other people ... although I played with Bob Wills & the Texas Playboys. I mean, I never really thought about segregation, I just went and played with whoever I could play with. I let them play with me. The styles were what were so rare. Bebop wasn't a big style in Texas when I was coming up. Rhythm & blues, rock & roll, and country & western were. AC: Were those idioms interesting to you as a young musician? OC: I think they still are, because they're just ideas, and if you're allowed to express an idea in any environment that inspires you, you can bring more to that particular melody line than just repeating the revolution of the chords. AC: You played with Bob Wills! OC: Yeah, long ago. I also played with Stan Kenton's big band in Fort Worth. I think that was in the Fifties. Most of the country & western guys used to come to a place called the Jim Hotel where they had jam sessions. Most all the rhythm & blues and jazz guys would go there. AC: What do you remember about playing with Bob Wills? OC: You won't believe this, but they were playing more bebop than they were playing country & western! The full published interview is here from the Austin Chronicle: Coleman Chronicle Interview Edited December 23, 2006 by Hank Quote
flat5 Posted December 24, 2006 Report Posted December 24, 2006 Wee Hank, I tries to read the article, but the more I read the more confused I got :-) Quote
sheldonm Posted December 24, 2006 Report Posted December 24, 2006 Well, it's better than no grammy for OC. I would agree with Chuck on this ( ). I think the Grammys have been a joke for a long time (maybe forever)....If I means something to Ornette, that's cool but watching these award shows just make me cringe..........! m~ Quote
7/4 Posted December 25, 2006 Report Posted December 25, 2006 Well, it's better than no grammy for OC. I would agree with Chuck on this ( ). I think the Grammys have been a joke for a long time (maybe forever)....If I means something to Ornette, that's cool but watching these award shows just make me cringe..........! m~ Well yeah, but it's going to give him a bit more exposure (I hope). Quote
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