RDK Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 I'll only add that ECM of the 70s is a far cry from what they've been putting out for the last two decades or so. Yeah, some of the more recent stuff is okay, but goddam so much of it puts me to sleep. Chewy's right in that regard - but only to a point. I dig a much much higher percentage of their 70s sides, when the label really meant something. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Mention on another thread was made of the Bengt Berger Bitter Funeral Beer Band. I like him on some late '60s/early '70s recordings with DC and Persson Sound, and this looks pretty cool. Quote
B. Clugston Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) The ECM sound doesn’t appeal to me, so aside from Vesala, I haven’t given much of the label’s output of the past 20 years much of a listen. I’m not discrediting fans out there, but the ECM stuff sounds like it was recorded in a domed stadium. I do like a lot of the 1970s output, however. Never heard the Waldron and much of the Wheelers, but wish I had. Here’s my Top 10: Edward Vesala, Ode to the Death of Jazz Edward Vesala, Nordic Gallery Edward Vesala, Lumi Dave Holland, The Conference of the Birds Marion Brown, Afternoon of a Georgian Faun Circle, Paris Concert Bennie Maupin, The Jewel in the Lotus Kenny Wheeler, Around 6 Edward Vesala, Satu Jimmy Giuffre, 1961 Edited to add the Giuffre, even though it's a Verve in ECM clothing. Edited December 20, 2006 by B. Clugston Quote
michel1969 Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Dave Holland "Conference of the Birds" Kenny Wheeler "Angel Song" Charles LLoyd "Canto" Terje Rypdal "After the Rain" Mal Waldron "free at Last" (#1001 !!) Quote
Brownian Motion Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 I like "Dawn Dance" by Steve Eliovson. Anyone have any information on this South African guitarist, who seems to have cut this one record, and then disappeared off the face of the Earth? Quote
(BB) Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 AEC ~ Nice Guys Don Cherry & Ed Blackwell ~ El Corazon DeJohnette ~ Special Edition The Hillard Ensemble ~ Lassus Meredith Monk ~ Turtle Dreams Not orignally an ecm Jimmy Giuffre 3 ~ 1961 Quote
BruceH Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 Steve Reich---Music for 18 Musicians AEC---Nice Guys Well, that's about it. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 AEC ~ Nice Guys Don Cherry & Ed Blackwell ~ El Corazon DeJohnette ~ Special Edition The Hillard Ensemble ~ Lassus Meredith Monk ~ Turtle Dreams Not orignally an ecm Jimmy Giuffre 3 ~ 1961 I don't really want to play this game but this list comes close. OK - Where's Circle, Dave Holland's Conference of the Birds, Paul Bley and a bunch of Japos? Quote
tonym Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 ALL Abercrombie drives me batshit at this point, tho' i don't deny the guy's (twee-tone) artistry. c What about his more 'visceral' recordings though Clem? Or his recent stuff with Marc Feldman? Curious because I really like the guy's playing. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 There is so much talk about Blue Note albums on this forum, yet ECM albums barely ever mentioned. I'd suggest discussions about Prestige, Riverside, Savoy and more current labels as a corrective to the BN slant of our discussions. How about India Navigation? Too few titles? Is that important? Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 (edited) There's always Soul Note. And Black Saint. Thanks. One difference is the Euro labels reacted to music issued on the US labels at the time. Edited December 21, 2006 by Chuck Nessa Quote
mandrill Posted December 21, 2006 Author Report Posted December 21, 2006 HOW MANY TIMES MORE SOPHISTICATED HOW MUCH MORE BETTER THAN US DO YOU THINK YOU ARE CASUE U LISTEN TO THESE MEANDERING, POINTLESS ECM RECORDS? 10, 5, or 3? 18 Quote
milestones20 Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 This is a tough one. Here's 10, alphabetized: Chick Corea - Return to Forever Charlie Haden - The Ballad of the Fallen Dave Holland - Conference of the Birds Keith Jarrett - Whisper Not: Live in Paris 1999 Julian Priester - Love, Love Tomasz Stanko - Balladyna Tomasz Stanko - Soul of Things Kenny Wheeler - Gnu High Kenny Wheeler - Music for Large and Small Ensembles Close runner-ups are: Keith Jarrett - The Koln Concert Dave Holland - Jumpin' In Tomasz Stanko - From The Green Hill Quote
GregK Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 I've been meaning to check out the Marilyn Crispell discs on ECM. I also really like the Art Ensemble of Chicago Tribute to Lester Quote
Sundog Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 Tomasz Stanko - Soul of Things Excellent choice! Been listening to this a lot the last few weeks. Quote
randyhersom Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 In the 70's ECM, along with Keith Jarrett and Oregon was what lured me into the jazz world. Keith Jarrett - Solo Concerts Bremen - Lausanne Keith Jarrett w/ Jan Garbarek - Belonging Terje Rypdal - Whenever I seem to be far away Ralph Towner - Solstice Ralph Towner - Diary Gary Burton - Steve Swallow - Hotel Hello Art Lande - Rubisa Patrol Paul Motian - Tribute Albums I know are great but just haven't heard often enough Dave Holland - Conference of the Birds Old and New Dreams Evan Parker - Paul Bley - Sankt Gerold Quote
clifford_thornton Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 (edited) How about India Navigation? Too few titles? Is that important? Alan Braufman - Valley of Search Arnold Dreyblatt - Nodal Excitation Anthony Davis - Lady of the Mirrors Hamiet Bluiett - Birthright Arthur Blythe - The Grip Assume the Yoshi Wada is good; never had it... for some reason, the Revolutionary Ensemble on IN never got to me, though I do stand by other sessions of theirs. Hell, what about Of the Cosmos Records? Edited December 21, 2006 by clifford_thornton Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 How about India Navigation? Too few titles? Is that important? Alan Braufman - Valley of Search Arnold Dreyblatt - Nodal Excitation Anthony Davis - Lady of the Mirrors Hamiet Bluiett - Birthright Arthur Blythe - The Grip Assume the Yoshi Wada is good; never had it... for some reason, the Revolutionary Ensemble on IN never got to me, though I do stand by other sessions of theirs. Hell, what about Of the Cosmos Records? Gimme a break. The catalog was much wider than that. I might not agree with all the choices but Bob was a good producer and helped the music more that most at the time. For a couple of years I have been thinking about starting a thread about him and his work. Rest in peace Bob Cummins, one of the real people in the background. Quote
jmjk Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 Most of my favorites have been mentioned above, but in addition: Jan Garbarek - SART and Triptykon Iro Haarla - Northbound AEOC - Nice Guys Sam Rivers - Contrasts Paul Motian - Le Voyage Robin Kenyatta - Girl from Martinique Quote
felser Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 Chick Corea - Return to Forever (my absolute favorite ECM) Chick Corea/Gary Burton - Crystal Silence Chick Corea - Piano Improvisations, Vol. 1 and 2 John Abercrombie - Timeless Stanley Cowell - Illusiuon Suite Ralph Towner - Solstice Ralph Towner - Diary Ralph Towner/Gary Burton - Matchbox Keith Jarrett - Whisper Not Mal Waldron - Free at Last Quote
clifford_thornton Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 How about India Navigation? Too few titles? Is that important? Alan Braufman - Valley of Search Arnold Dreyblatt - Nodal Excitation Anthony Davis - Lady of the Mirrors Hamiet Bluiett - Birthright Arthur Blythe - The Grip Assume the Yoshi Wada is good; never had it... for some reason, the Revolutionary Ensemble on IN never got to me, though I do stand by other sessions of theirs. Hell, what about Of the Cosmos Records? Gimme a break. The catalog was much wider than that. I might not agree with all the choices but Bob was a good producer and helped the music more that most at the time. For a couple of years I have been thinking about starting a thread about him and his work. Rest in peace Bob Cummins, one of the real people in the background. I don't doubt that, but those are some of my favorites. Is that a problem? Quote
JohnS Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 (edited) I'm not a great lover of the normal run of ECMs but if pressed I'd go for the Art Ensemble, Lester Bowie and Codona. Whoops forgot the Jarrett Standards Trio. Edited December 22, 2006 by JohnS Quote
jmjk Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 Oh, forgot to mention Carla Bley's Social Studies, released on Watt, her ECM sub. Quote
Guy Berger Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 I don't have a comprehensive ECM collection but these are my favorites: Charles Lloyd, Canto Charles Lloyd, Voice in the Night Paul Motian, Tribute Paul Motian, I Have the Room Above Her Jack DeJohnette, Special Edition Keith Jarrett, The Cure (but the best Keith is on Impulse!) Keith Jarrett, Blue Note box disc 3 Abercrombie/Holland/DeJohnette, Gateway Dave Holland, Conference of the Birds Chick Corea, Return to Forever Quote
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