What are your recommendations for hard bop big band records?

[Quincy]

Okay. . . how do you feel about the Clarke Boland Big Band? Some of their lps qualify as big band hard bop! (Plus)

It took you 3 posts to bring this up? Good stuff! (and thanks!)

Edited December 13, 2006 by Quincy

[jazzbo]

Okay. . . how do you feel about the Clarke Boland Big Band? Some of their lps qualify as big band hard bop! (Plus)

It took you 3 posts to bring this up? Good stuff! (and thanks!)

Well, I was scared away from the use of the term "hard bop" really. I mean. . .that's a very narrow definition for SOME people. And not a lot of CBBB material fits that so narrowly.

[AllenLowe]

wait, Dimitry - do mean "hard bop" big bands, or hard "bop big bands," as in groups playing difficult music (or maybe having reached full arousal from the good looking ladies in the front row)?

[Kevin Bresnahan]

JJ Johnson's RCA big band recordings would fit the bill. I really dig "J.J.!", recently reissued as a Mosaic single.

Tubby Hayes's "Tubbs' Tours" and "100% Proof" should still be available. Very nice hard bop big band. I prefer "Tubbs' Tours" ever slightly.

Kevin

[etherbored]

i wonder how many people here are hip to benny golson's "stockholm sojourn"... it's a great date that has a big band utilized more as an orchestra in that hip golson way.

recommended,

-e-

[Peter Friedman]

Jimmy Heath - Little Man Big Band - Verve

Tony Kinsey Big Band - Thames Suite - Spotlite

Bill Mobley Jazz Orchestra - Live At Small's Vol. 1 - Space Time

Bill Mobley Jazz Orchestra - Live At Small's Vol. 2 - Space Time

Ernie Wilkins Almost Big Band - Montreux - Steeplechase

Ernie Wilkins Almost Big Band - On The Road - Steeplechase

[Michael Weiss]

In their own way (among others):

[sidewinder]

Tubby Hayes's "Tubbs' Tours" and "100% Proof" should still be available. Very nice hard bop big band. I prefer "Tubbs' Tours" ever slightly.

Kevin

Also 'Tubbs' (Fontana)

[marcello]

Don't know if this is on cd but the opener, "Disaproachment" is a blast!

[king ubu]

Ra's "Jazz in Silhouette" is the feghing shit!

This here might qualify, too, although it's only partly a big band date (rest is quartet and sextet or septet):

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Second the mention of Griffin's big soul band. And Gerald Wislon, of course. Here's a few more

Cannonball Adderley - African waltz

Blue Mitchell - Smooth as the wind

Melton Mustapha - Boiling point

Louie Bellson with Blue Mitchell - Jam with Blue Mitchell

Jimmy Smith - Bashin'

Sonny Stitt & the Top Brass

And what about Dizzy's great big band of the late '40s? Goodness me!

MG

[king ubu]

African Waltz is quite fine! Two of the three albums of this Milt Jackson/Ray Brown Verve twofer are big band, too, one featuring Cannonball:

This one's another good one, with Holman, Giuffre and other great soloists, and a slight west coast flavour:

[AllenLowe]

well, I can't get an answer so I will assume we are referring to a third possibility - old bop big-band records hardened by manufacture and time. For that Dimitry will have to turn to 78s which, though breakable, are made of a much harder substance than either LPs or CDs.

Edited December 14, 2006 by AllenLowe

[BruceH]

i wonder how many people here are hip to benny golson's "stockholm sojourn"... it's a great date that has a big band utilized more as an orchestra in that hip golson way.

recommended,

-e-

I've gotta get this! (GREAT thread, BTW. )

[etherbored]

i think it's (the golson date, above) under a lot of listeners radar...

-e-

[sidewinder]

Definitely this one !