Dmitry Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Any particular favorites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Art Blakey's 'Big Band' date on Bethlehem! Also any Slide Hampton sessions from the late '50s/early '60s. Not a big band as far as to the numbers of musicians on hand but sure sounded like BIG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Charles Tolliver 'Impact' on Strata-East Second the recommendation for Art Blakey's Big Band and the Slide Hamptons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Charles Tolliver 'Impact' on Strata-East And don't forget Tolliver's earlier "Music Inc + Big Band" date. Also, would any of the Gerald Wilson Mosaic qualify?? First thing I thought of, but I'm not sure how "hard bop" people here would consider it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Charles Tolliver 'Impact' on Strata-East And don't forget Tolliver's earlier "Music Inc + Big Band" date. That's the one I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 (edited) Hard bop is a fairly general term and can be interpreted differently by different people. If you're talking about bands that were active in the 60s and embraced that style, that could include some Bill Holman (like his Big Band In A Jazz Orbit), Gerald Wilson and Terry Gibbs. Rob McConnell came along later, but he play a lot of tunes associated with the hard bop repertoire. Gerry Mulligan's band could be viewed as a hard bop group, too. There are certainly a lot of published arrangements of tunes associated with the hard bop style arranged for big band. Edited December 12, 2006 by Free For All Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 (edited) Not sure if this is hard bop, but I liked just about everything from the Akiyoshi/Tabackin big band. Insight is a personal favorite. Clifford Jordan has a pretty cool date on Mapleshade. Much better than the one on Milestone. I also like the Joe Henderson record on Verve. Edited December 12, 2006 by Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapscott Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 (edited) Yes, the Joe Henderson might be the closest of all to what I would interpret as a hard bop big band CD. And it's a good one. Danny D'Imperio's Big Band Bloviation Cd's Vol 1 & Vol 2 might qualify, too. I'll probably think of some more. Here's one. "Presenting the Thad Jones- Mel Lewis Big Band" (their first album on Solid State and IMHO, the best album they every made). Edited December 12, 2006 by John Tapscott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Not exactly what you're asking for throughout, but MAN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Not sure if this is hard bop, but I liked just about everything from the Akiyoshi/Tabackin big band. Insight is a personal favorite. Let me mirror all you have to say about the ATBB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Okay. . . how do you feel about the Clarke Boland Big Band? Some of their lps qualify as big band hard bop! (Plus) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 (edited) Billy Harper's first Strata East date?? (LP title = Capra Black, as best I remember - at work at the moment.) Everything I seem to be trying to think of is post-1970. "Introducing Duke Pearson's Big Band" and also Pearson's "Now Hear This!" maybe?? (Certainly the Chick tune 'Straight up and Down' from "Introducing..." would qualify.) What I'd be REALLY interested are in any titles for this thread from the 50's and 60's. Like what was the first "hard bop big band" record?? EXCELLENT thread topic!! Edited December 12, 2006 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 To answer my own question - Dizzy Gillespie's Big Band sides with Lee Morgan and Benny Golson are very good big band hard bop. This album is what made me curious about other hard bop biog band records - Yes, I am mainly interested in the hey-day recordings, ca.1956-1965, but keep 'em all comin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 ANY clarke boland date you can get your hands on is worthy. very worthy. highly recommended sides currently available in one country or another include: 'all blues' 'all smiles' 'more smiles' 'fellini 712' 'now hear our meanin' 'calypso blues' 'sax no end' and of course the blue note 'the golden 8'. my opinion is that if you have even a passing interest in big band and don't have any of these titles you're really missing out on some tasty stuff. clarke boland was a very unique ensemble that had all the pieces of a big band but used them in a real breathable interchangable way. regards, -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Only 7 horns, but it's arranged & played like a big band, mostly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Good choice John! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Does this count??? or this one??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 (edited) Good choice John! Wow, has that ever been on CD?? (the Vaclav Zahrdnik disc, that is) Edited December 12, 2006 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Good choice John! Wow, has that ever been on CD?? (the Vaclav Zahrdnik disc, that is) I don't think so. The LP is relatively easy to find, though. Someone posted a sample track (B1 - "Hello Tony") on his blog recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 ANY clarke boland date you can get your hands on is worthy. very worthy. highly recommended sides currently available in one country or another include: 'all blues' 'all smiles' 'more smiles' 'fellini 712' 'now hear our meanin' 'calypso blues' 'sax no end' and of course the blue note 'the golden 8'. my opinion is that if you have even a passing interest in big band and don't have any of these titles you're really missing out on some tasty stuff. clarke boland was a very unique ensemble that had all the pieces of a big band but used them in a real breathable interchangable way. regards, -e- Check out the Schema/Rearward site for lots of CBBB nuggets on CD and LP ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Jimmy Heath - Really Big (Riverside) Johnny Griffin - Big Soul Band (Riverside) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I guess John Coltrane 'Africa Brass' would fall into this territory. How about also 'Sahib Shihab and the Danish Radio Jazz Orchestra' (Octav) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ep1str0phy Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Maybe a little "avant" in spots, but John Surman's excellent Tales of the Algonquin might fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 (edited) Maybe a little "avant" in spots, but John Surman's excellent Tales of the Algonquin might fit. Yep, I would agree. THat one also crossed my mind. Add Mike Westbrook's 'Celebration', 'Metropolis' and 'Citadel/Room 315' also to that category. Edited December 13, 2006 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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