jostber Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 (edited) Thanks. How is this later set with Tal? Edited March 10, 2008 by jostber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 I heard Tal live in a Chicago club in the early or mid-1980s, and, though it seems hard to believe, he was playing at a level that was beyond anything I'd heard from him on record -- and I've heard most of what there is. It was like Tatum on guitar, and not just in terms of speed -- the flow of consequential thought was almost beyond my ability to take it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Hawkins Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Been listening a lot to Tal Farlow over the last couple of weeks, due to an 'epiphany' listening to Eddie Costa. Wow! I'm quite ashamed I hadn't noticed quite how incredible he is before, although happy now I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Thanks. How is this later set with Tal? Tal is as good as ever so this would be reason enough for jazz guitar fanatics to get the record, but personally I find the accompaniment a bit too busy; on some tracks the piano and bass player seem to be saying "Hey, we're here too" too much. But that's just my personal impression. Edited March 11, 2008 by Big Beat Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryCurleyMoe Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 The Verve "Jazz Masters" Tal Farlow is a nice collection of Verve release highlights if you don't want to get the Mosaic set. Most of the individual Verve Tal albums are import only or not available. Listening to this the other night and picked up on the connection between Tal and John McLaughlin - just listen to the way they both spin out lines of music in a similar fashion - AWESOME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Thanks for the recommendations, I'll check out those. Anyone seen this film on Mr.Farlow? http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/talmag...ow/jun-06/20980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randalljazz Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Thanks for the recommendations, I'll check out those. Anyone seen this film on Mr.Farlow? http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/talmag...ow/jun-06/20980 i've seen bits of it on youtube. buy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 But maybe beyond the financial means of some, and beyond the limit of those who are not completists. Hey, wait a minute! What the hell's that supposed to mean, "not completists"?!? Do you want me to feel bad again? Or let me know not everyone's as crazy as yours truly? Timely thread to pop up again, time to revisit that Mosaic! In the meantime I also got "The Return of Tal Farlow" (zyx cardboard version from the zweitausendeins/zyx sale) and one of the Concords. Both fine, but nothing in there that he didn't already do during the years covered by the Mosaic. He didn't really evolve much, did he? Not that everybody has to go through various periods like Miles or Trane, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 In the meantime I also got "The Return of Tal Farlow" (zyx cardboard version from the zweitausendeins/zyx sale) and one of the Concords. Both fine, but nothing in there that he didn't already do during the years covered by the Mosaic. He didn't really evolve much, did he? Not that everybody has to go through various periods like Miles or Trane, but... What do you expect? Tal "evolving" in the sense of turning out glib, soft pop/funk pap like Messrs. Montgomery/Green/Benson? :D For somebody who'd been virtually off the scene for over 10 years his "Return" album certainly showed he still had his chops totally intact, and the same goes for what I've heard of his Concords. No mean feat if you consider the high level he had achieved in the 50s. (P.S. I prefer the Verves etc. from the 50s too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 As I said somewhere on this thread, Tal evolved like crazy in the '80s, though I don't think this was reflected on record. In particular, he heightened the fluidity of his playing (that is, lessened the sense of "attack" on most notes),and thus became, like, a third faster. More important (and this probably was the motive for the change), he was thinking a third faster too. At the level of Tatum at his best, almost beyond the ability of the mind to take it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 What Larry said. He was friggin' astounding near the end - a whole 'nuther universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Wow, I certainly wasn't aware of that, Larry & Chuck! What's the closest recorded evidence existing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Wow, I certainly wasn't aware of that, Larry & Chuck! What's the closest recorded evidence existing? Don't think there is any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 (edited) Me either. Try to imagine a guitarist with 3 or 4 hands. Edited March 15, 2008 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zootsi Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Tal was arguably the best of his era. My dad, who was also a jazz guitarist and a contemporary of Tal's, was a friend of his, and jammed with him a few times. Oh, if I only could have been there!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I only have a small number of Tal Farlow recordings - the McGhee BN, a one disc compilation of the Fuersts, and The Swinging Guitar of Tal Farlow. I've thought about getting the Mosaic box, but The Swinging Guitar CD keeps putting me off from it. His playing, along with the rest of the group, has always sounded rushed to me, and listening to it makes me feel on edge and nervous. Same band on the Fuerst, and I like that one - go figure. Anyone have a comment/opinion on Swinging Guitar in the context of the entire Mosaic? Incidentally, Ed Diehl, a guitarist whom I have the highest respect for, and who these days is playing at a level far beyond his recordings with Hank Mobley and Jack McDuff, seemed seriously offended when I told him that I found it hard to get into Tal Farlow's playing. (I was speaking of Swinging Guitar.) Wrong thing for me to say - it seems that Tal Farlow was his strongest influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I can't find anything really wrong with "The Swinging Guitar" but maybe that's because I usually listen to it along with other of Tal's Verves and I take any differences (if there are any) just as differences that are bound to happen with human beings. But I'll listen closer next time and try to analyse a bit more ... The Fuerst sets are maybe not the ideal comparison, even if the lineup is the same. As you know after-hours private jam sessions are a setting that's not necessarily comparable with studio productions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 A website (in French) on Tal Farlow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesnik Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Just got this record: Tal Farlow Quartet. i have this one too. and no need to go japanese, there was a (brilliant) connoisseur 10" series edition with howard mcghee vol 2 plus the mentioned quartet album on one cd, in 1998. i love this series. it's one of my alltime favourites. there are a lot of 10" albums reissued from the blue note 5000 series from around '55, when the switch from 10" to 12" was made. and the sound is also good: it's a 20 bit SBM affair. or 24 bit? it also exists. i'm not sure now.and of course i also have the mosaic box, which is wonderful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Just noticed this on Wolfgang's Vault. The pairing of Tal and Jim Hall sounds crazy. Makes me tempted to get a subscription: http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/jim-hall-and-tal-farlow/concerts/central-park-june-30-1973.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgcim Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) I was at that concert in Central Park. I remember thinking, " that can't be the same Tal Farlow who played on all those Verve records I have..." Tal went through a lot of changes back when he was on top. Edited January 13, 2013 by sgcim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Just noticed this on Wolfgang's Vault. The pairing of Tal and Jim Hall sounds crazy. Makes me tempted to get a subscription: http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/jim-hall-and-tal-farlow/concerts/central-park-june-30-1973.html Just listened to it. It's worth the subscription. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:.impossible Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Thank you for the tip. Listening now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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