king ubu Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 I am sorry, but "Brothers 4" just isn't as grabbing as many other similar discs I have! As I said, I enjoy greatly the Scotts (no first name mentioned, I'll mix them up again anway... ah, shucks, it's Shirley, of course!!!), then I like the Jenning/McDuff assedjazz a lot, also McDuff's "Soulful Drums" twofer. Houston Person's "Trust in Me" and "Broken Windows" twofers I both don't like that much (they're ok, but not more, I think). Red Holloway's assedjazz has a few good spots (but I like him much better on "Soulful Drums"). The other Stitts I still need to explore (Stitt/Patterson Vol. 2 & the Boss Men, Soul People with Booger, Goin' Down Slow, Assedjazz). Anyway, you might need to know that I also play lots of free/avant stuff, bop/hardbop, older stuff etc, and that this greazy stuff is far from my favourite kind of jazz - it's for me just one of many, many things I enjoy, and I only rather recently got into it (by way, MG might be interested to hear that, of some Blue Notes, mainly all those Lou Donaldson's from the 60s, Mozambique, Understanding, etc). Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 7, 2006 Author Report Posted December 7, 2006 Anyway, you might need to know that I also play lots of free/avant stuff, bop/hardbop, older stuff etc, and that this greazy stuff is far from my favourite kind of jazz - it's for me just one of many, many things I enjoy, and I only rather recently got into it (by way, MG might be interested to hear that, of some Blue Notes, mainly all those Lou Donaldson's from the 60s, Mozambique, Understanding, etc). I have a theory that the people who love Soul Jazz got into it through a love of R&B and Soul. MG Quote
king ubu Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Not me... I got into it via - in chronological order: Bob Dylan - electric Miles / Abdullah Ibrahim - Miles/Monk/Trane/Mingus - 50s/60s jazz - bop (40s, Bird, Bud etc) / free jazz, avantgarde, free improv / "old" jazz (Duke, Basie, Lunceford, Hodges, Hawkins, Henderson etc.) (all at the same time, roughly, all still being explored now). It's rather this kind of jazz that makes me occasionally get something by Aretha or Otis Redding or Booker T. But before getting into jazz at all (maybe around the time I got into my first electric Miles) I listened to lots of funk (Crusaders, Tower of Power, Larry Graham, Bootsy etc.) - so maybe in the end you're kind of right, but I took a few turns to arrive there... Quote
Guy Berger Posted December 27, 2006 Report Posted December 27, 2006 I listened to the Boogaloo Joe Jones and was somewhat underwhelmed. I was expecting something "greazier". Guy Quote
randissimo Posted December 28, 2006 Report Posted December 28, 2006 I listened to the Boogaloo Joe Jones and was somewhat underwhelmed. I was expecting something "greazier". Guy I bought one of his sides and have to agree... I was underwhelmed and never gave it another listen.. Quote
mailman Posted December 28, 2006 Report Posted December 28, 2006 Completely agree. Dude, get the Trudy Pitts!!!!! That Legends of Acid Jazz Trudy Pitts/Pat Martino CD is really glorious. She's really killin' and I dig her vocals too. Bill Carney/Trudy Pitts/Pat Martino were a working unit and this is a nice documentation of what was going down at that time. Awesome. Trudy Pitts rules (and Pat ain't bad either. ) Funny, Pitts is the one I really don't get. I've got "These blues of mine" on LP and hardly ever play it. And when I do, I never feel that she's swinging. Only time I've heard her really swing is on Willis Jackson's LP "Star bag" - but Willis could make the brain dead swing. MG Trudy Pitts will be playing with Greg Osby at the Jazz Standard in NYC in January. Sounds interesting. Actually I think Osby is almost always interesting. I've never heard Pitts and I'm intrigued. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 (edited) A question on the Idris Muhammad's LOTAJ Disc who plays trumpet on the Wander?? whoever it is sounds like lee morgan Edited January 23, 2007 by Soulstation1 Quote
Soulstation1 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 (edited) i have all the lotaj series except for the trudy pitts all are available @ emusic SS1, Which ones are your favorites? guy sorry for the late reponse i really like them all those rusty bryants might be my fav Edited January 23, 2007 by Soulstation1 Quote
king ubu Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 How's the Gene Ammons? (One of the most horrible covers ever!) Quote
Noj Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 I really like the Ammons, especially "Piece To Keep Away Evil Spirits" and "Jug Eyes." Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted January 23, 2007 Author Report Posted January 23, 2007 A question on the Idris Muhammad's LOTAJ Disc who plays trumpet on the Wander?? whoever it is sounds like lee morgan Virgil Jones and, yes, he DOES sound like Lee, but not as hard. MG Quote
Bright Moments Posted March 25, 2007 Report Posted March 25, 2007 guess this is just as good a place as any to add: how about a list of the "roots of acid jazz" series and post your favorites? Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 25, 2007 Author Report Posted March 25, 2007 how about a list of the "roots of acid jazz" series and post your favorites? I don't have ANY of those. In addition to the Raahsan, I think there was a Les McCann, a Wes, a JOS. Haven't seen any others. MG Quote
mikeweil Posted March 25, 2007 Report Posted March 25, 2007 (edited) Cal Tjader - but I'd compile even groovier tracks. Here's a list (probably not complete): George Benson Willie Bobo Buddy Greco Quincy Jones Les Mccann Shirley Scott Walter Wanderley Wes Montgomery Jimmy Smith Cal Tjader Astrud Gilberto Lalo Schifrin Roland Kirk Many of those Talkin' Verve compilations do not select the really grooviest/greaziest tracks, IMO. Edited March 25, 2007 by mikeweil Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 25, 2007 Author Report Posted March 25, 2007 Buddy Greco - Roots of Acid Jazz? Am I missing something? MG Quote
K1969 Posted April 21, 2007 Report Posted April 21, 2007 I listened to the Boogaloo Joe Jones and was somewhat underwhelmed. I was expecting something "greazier". Guy I bought one of his sides and have to agree... I was underwhelmed and never gave it another listen.. I agree but he more than makes up for it on his later (and perhaps last ever) LP The Sweetback. A strange LP in that it sounds even more like prestige than prestige, and comes from 1976 when soul jazz was the least hip thing out and prestige was doing disco funk. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted April 23, 2007 Report Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) Louisiana Slim from the Leon Spencer LOTAJ CD is a solid 10 minute jam Edited April 23, 2007 by Soulstation1 Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted April 23, 2007 Author Report Posted April 23, 2007 Virgil is probably still around. Last I heard him was on Teddy Edwards' album "Midnight creeper" in 1997. So he didn't disappear in the '70s. MG Quote
Soul Stream Posted April 23, 2007 Report Posted April 23, 2007 Virgil is probably still around. Last I heard him was on Teddy Edwards' album "Midnight creeper" in 1997. So he didn't disappear in the '70s. MG There's a clip on YouTube of Virgil in a horn section with Lou Donaldson backing up Bernard Purdie at some Jazz Festival from the 1993...Everything I do Gonna Be Funky...check it out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkcyx1vRXyg Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted April 23, 2007 Author Report Posted April 23, 2007 Thanks for posting that clip SoulStream. This is the album - now out of print. BERNARD PURDIE COOLIN' GROOVIN' A NIGHT AT ON-AIR LEXINGTON, LCD-1002(CD) ©(P)1993 LEXINGTON, INC., JAPAN RECORDED JULY 26 thru 28, 1993 RELEASED NOVEMBER 20, 1993 CREDITS (recording data) : LEXINGTON Presents JAZZ GROOVE SESSIONS Recorded at ON-AIR, Tokyo, July 26 thru 28, 1993 Produced by Masao Hirakawa Recording Engineer: K.Takahara Masterd by Naohiko Kawano at Studio Sound DALI Art Direction by Yoshihiko Madachi for WATERS Designed by Yoshihiro Madachi, Keiko O'hata Photographs Courtesy of Kazuo Suzuki CREDITS (MUSICIANS): Bernard Purdie : drums Chuck Rainey : bass David T.Walker : guitar Sonny Phillips : organ Bill Bivens : : tenor saxophone Virgil Jones : trumpet Pancho Morales : percussion Lou Donaldson : alto saxophone TRACKS (total time 60:10) : 1. Tighten Up (14:15) [Archie Bell, Billy Buttier] 2. Everything I Play Is Funky (9:41) [Allen Toussaint] 3. What's Going On (5:29) [Marvin Gaye] 4. Misty (5:22) [Erroll Garner] 5. Whisky Drinkin' Woman (6:50) [J.Turner, L.Donaldson] 6. Cold Sweat (9:09) [J.Brown, P.Ellis] 7. Alligator Boogaloo (9:24) [Lou Donaldson] Wish I had THAT one! MG Quote
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