robert h. Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Quick correction here. None are new K2 remasters, all are reissues of previously available K2's. Most have not been available for close to a decade, though. For example, I picked up the K2 of Rollins' Next Album (a monster, stupidly overlooked record) around 1998. Great remaster - who cares if it's recent or not? Get them, they are great, and won't be around for long this time either! Quote
etherbored Posted December 6, 2006 Author Report Posted December 6, 2006 ah, ah, ah. you didn't clarify which information and the preceeding posts referred to the list. the information concerning licensing came from a couple shop owners (not hiroshi) and a japan victor employee. the information concerning K2 is sheer conjecture at this point. regards and sorry for the confusion, -e- Quote
Bluerein Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 another correction Robert. All which were released previously as K2's are K2's again (of course) all the others are earlier remasterings (Japanese or US). I have the SuperStop information and this tell's which are 20 Bit K2's and which not. I'll post it later. Quote
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Thanks for the pointer. 1000 yen is very cheap, especially in K2 jewel box. I'll get some of these for sure. Yes, great deal! Those titles in the VICJ-23*** series were running 2,300 yen when released back in the early 90's. I've been on a vocalist kick lately so I'm definitely in for that Bev Kelly 'In Person'....... ....Cracklin & Bley as well!! Quote
etherbored Posted December 6, 2006 Author Report Posted December 6, 2006 brownie mentioned your name over in the wallington reissue thread, too, sir... -e- Quote
Bluerein Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 (edited) Here's the list (courtesy of Hiroshi Tanno): Now confirmed and updated!!! VICJ 41801(16 bit) Parker,Charlie(as)/Jazz At Massey Hall 1000 VICJ 41802(16 bit) Parker,Charlie(as)/Bird On The 52nd St. 1000 VICJ 41803(16 bit) Parker,Charlie(as)/Bird At St.nicks 1000 VICJ 41804(16 bit) Monk,Thelonious(p)/5 By Monk By 5: +2 1000 VICJ 41805(16 bit) Monk,Thelonious(p)/At Blackhawk: +2 1000 VICJ 41806(16 bit) Monk,Thelonious(p)/In Italy 1000 VICJ 41807(16 bit) Adderley,Cannonball(as)/Nippon Soul: +1 1000 VICJ 41808(16 bit) Mcintyre,Ken(as)/Looking Ahead 1000 VICJ 41809(16 bit) Nelson,Oliver(as) & Eric Dolphy(as)/Straight Ahead 1000 VICJ 41810(16 bit) Carter,Ron(b)/Where 1000 VICJ 41811(16 bit) Criss,Sonny(as)/Sonny's Dream 1000 VICJ 41812(20 bit K2) Terry,Clark(tp)/Serenade To A Bus Seat 1000 VICJ 41813(16 bit) Green,Benny(tb)/Benny Green With Art Farmer 1000 VICJ 41814(16 bit) Fuller,Curtis(tb)/With Red Garland 1000 VICJ 41815(16 bit) Clay,James(ts) & David Newman(ts)/Sound Of The Wide Open Spaces 1000 VICJ 41816(16 bit) Griffin,Johnny(ts)/White Gardenia(Left Alone) 1000 VICJ 41817(16 bit) Griffin,Johnny(ts) & Eddie Davis(ts)/Lookin' At Monk 1000 VICJ 41818(16 bit) Heath,Jimmy(ts)/Thumper 1000 VICJ 41819(16 bit) Heah,Jimmy(ts)/Quota 1000 VICJ 41820(16 bit) Jordan,Clifford(ts)/Spellbound 1000 VICJ 41821(16 bit) Niehaus,Lennie(as)/Quintets 1000 VICJ 41822(16 bit) Winchester,Lem(vib)/Another Opus 1000 VICJ 41823(20 bit K2) Ashby,Dorothy(harp)/In A Minor Groove 1000 VICJ 41824(16 bit) Garland,Red(p)/Red's Good Groove 1000 VICJ 41825(16 bit) Harris,Barry(p)/Chasin The Bird 1000 VICJ 41826(20 bit K2) Allison,Mose(p,vo)/Back Country Suite 1000 VICJ 41827(20 bit K2) Bley,Paul(p)/Complete Introducing Paul Bley 1000 VICJ 41828(20 bit K2) Redd,Freddie(p)/Sanfrancisco Suite 1000 VICJ 41829(16 bit) Hawes,Hampton(p)/For Real 1000 VICJ 41830(16 bit) Previn,Andre(p)/West Side Story 1000 VICJ 41831(16 bit) Jones,Sam(b)/Soul Society 1000 VICJ 41832(16 bit) Haynes,Roy(ds)/Cracklin 1000 VICJ 41833(16 bit) Roach,Max(ds)/Deeds Not Words: +1 1000 VICJ 41834(16 bit) Jones,Elvin(ds)/Elvin 1000 VICJ 41835(16 bit) Jones,Philly Joe(ds)/Blues For Dracula 1000 VICJ 41836(16 bit) Taylor,Art(ds)/Taylor's Tenors 1000 VICJ 41837(16 bit) Jackson,Milt(vib)/All Too Soon: The Duke Ellington Album 1000 VICJ 41838(16 bit) Jackson,Milt(vib)/Big 3 1000 VICJ 41839(16 bit) Modern Jazz Quartet/Echoes 1000 VICJ 41840(16 bit) Pass,Joe(g)/Virtuoso: #3 1000 VICJ 41841(16 bit) Pass,Joe(g)/I remeber Charlie Parker(Solo) 1000 VICJ 41842(16 bit) Peterson,Oscar(p)/Porgy & Bess 1000 VICJ 41843(16 bit) Peterson,Oscar(p) & Count Basie(p)/Satch & Josh 1000 VICJ 41844(16 bit) Basie,Count(p)/88 Basie Street 1000 VICJ 41845(16 bit) Basie,Count(p)/Warm Breeze 1000 VICJ 41846(16 bit) Fitzgerald,Ella(vo) & Oscar Peterson(p)/Ella & Oscar 1000 VICJ 41847(16 bit) Fitzgerald,Ella(vo)/Fine And Mellow 1000 VICJ 41848(16 bit) Murphy,Mark(vo)/Rah: +1 1000 VICJ 41849(16 bit) Kelly,Bev(vo)/In Person 1000 VICJ 41850(16 bit) Kelly,Bev(vo)/Love Locked Out 1000 VICJ 41851(20 bit K2) Rollins,Sonny(ts)/Next Album 1000 VICJ 41852(20 bit K2) Rollins,Sonny(ts)/Cutting Edge 1000 VICJ 41853(20 bit K2) Rollins,Sonny(ts)/Easy Living 1000 VICJ 41854(20 bit K2) Rollins,Sonny(ts)/Solo Album 1000 VICJ 41855(16 bit) Pepper,Art(as)/Live In Japan 1000 VICJ 41856(16 bit) Pepper,Art(as)/Today: +3 1000 VICJ 41857(16 bit) Pepper,Art(as)/Complete Winter Moon Sessions 1000 VICJ 41858(16 bit) Pepper,Art(as)/Complete Goin' Home Session 1000 VICJ 41859(16 bit) Pepper,Art(as)/Tete-a-tete 1000 VICJ 41860(16 bit) Tyner,McCoy(p)/Fly With The Wind 1000 VICJ 41861(16 bit) Tyner,McCoy(p)/Trident 1000 VICJ 41862(20 bit k2) Ammons,Gene(ts)/Goodbye 1000 VICJ 41863(20 bit k2) Stitt,Sonny(as)/So Doggone Good 1000 VICJ 41864(20 bit k2) Turrentine,Stanley(ts)/West Side Highway 1000 VICJ 41865(16 bit) Gary Bartz(as)/Shadow Do 1000 VICJ 41866(16 bit) Rushen,Patrice(key)/Prelusion 1000 VICJ 41867(20 bit k2) Erskine,Peter(ds)/Peter Erskine: +1 1000 VICJ 41868(16 bit) Latin Jazz Quintet/Latin Soul 1000 VICJ 41869(16 bit) Scott,Shirley(org)/Mucho Mucho 1000 VICJ 41870(16 bit) Tjader,Cal(vib)/Mambo With Tjader 1000 VICJ 41871(16 bit) Tjader,Cal(vib)/Tjader 1000 VICJ 41872(16 bit) Tjader,Cal(vib)/Los Ritmos Calientes 1000 VICJ 41873(16 bit) Pike,Dave(vib)/Bossa Nova Carnival 1000 VICJ 41874(16 bit) Pike,Dave(vib)/Rimbo Carnival 1000 VICJ 41875(16 bit) Pucho(per) & His Latin Soul Brothers/Tough 1000 VICJ 41876(16 bit) Santamaria,Mongo(per)/Mongo Explodes 1000 VICJ 41877(20 bit k2) Smith,Johnny Hammond(org)/Stinger 1000 VICJ 41878(16 bit) Smith,Johnny Hammond(org)/Cooks With Gator Tail 1000 VICJ 41879(16 bit) McDuff,Jack(org)/Honeydripper 1000 VICJ 41880(16 bit) McDuff,Jack(org)/Goodnight, It's Time To Go 1000 VICJ 41881(20 bit k2) McDuff,Jack(org)/Hot Barbeque 1000 VICJ 41882(16 bit) Scott,Shirley(org)/Soul Searching 1000 VICJ 41883(16 bit) Scott,Shirley(org)/Hip Soul 1000 VICJ 41884(20 bit k2) Groove Holmes,Richard(org)/Living Soul 1000 VICJ 41885(16 bit) Young,Larry(org)/Groove Street 1000 VICJ 41886(16 bit) Pitts,Trudy(org)/Introducing The Fabulous Trudy Pitts 1000 VICJ 41887(20 bit k2) Roach,Freddie(org)/My People 1000 VICJ 41888(20 bit k2) Kynard,Charles(org)/Profeesor Soul 1000 VICJ 41889(16 bit) Timmons,Bobby(p)/Little Barefoot Soul 1000 VICJ 41890(20 bit k2) Timmons,Bobby(p)/Got To Get It 1000 VICJ 41891(16 bit) Wright,John(p)/South Side Soul 1000 VICJ 41892(16 bit) Wright,John(p)/Nice 'n' Tasty 1000 VICJ 41893(16 bit) Ammons,Gene(ts) & Sonny Stitt(as)/Soul Summit 1000 VICJ 41894(16 bit) Stitt,Sonny(as) & Jack McDuff/Meets Brother Jack 1000 VICJ 41895(16 bit) Stitt,Sonny(as)/Soul People 1000 VICJ 41896(16 bit) Griffin,Johnny(ts)/Grab This! 1000 VICJ 41897(16 bit) Curtis,King(ts)/Soul Meeting 1000 VICJ 41898(20 bit k2) Braith,George(as)/Laughing Soul 1000 VICJ 41899(16 bit) Summers,Bill(per)/Feel The Heat 1000 VICJ 41900(16 bit) V.A./Fritz The Cat 1000 Just as I've posted before. Edited December 8, 2006 by Bluerein Quote
kinuta Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 (edited) Left Alone: ビリー ホリデイに捧ぐ VICJ41816 -e- ps: it must be 'white gardenia' because the middle character above is 'holiday'... The Japanese title translates as 'For/to/dedicated to/tribute to Billie Holiday.'. The title is this one - Johnny Griffin with Strings and Brass - White Gardenia (Riverside RLP 387) Clark Terry (flh, tp) Jimmy Cleveland, Paul Faulise, Urbie Green (tb) Ray Alonge (frh) Johnny Griffin (ts) Alfred Brown, Harry Lookofsky, David Schwartz (vln) Charles McCracken, Lucient Schmit (vlc) Jimmy Jones (p) Barry Galbraith (g) Ron Carter (b) Ben Riley (d) NYC, July 13, 1961 No More Gloomy Sunday Don't Explain Nat Adderley (cor) Ernie Royal (tp) Maurice Bialkin, Ray Schweitzer, Edgardo Sodero (vlc) Barry Harris (p) replaces McCracken, Jones NYC, July 14, 1961 That Old Devil Called Love Detour Ahead Travelin' Light Abe Kessler, Peter Makas, Charles McCracken (vlc) Jimmy Jones (p) replaces Bialkin, Schmit, Schweitzer, Sodero, Harris NYC, July 17, 1961 White Gardenia God Bless' the Child Good Morning, Heartache Left Alone ** also issued on Fantasy OJCCD 1877-2. Edited December 7, 2006 by kinuta Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Any opinions on the non-K2 versions here? I have several of these titles on my want list, and the price is right. Are the "normal" CDs using the same mastering as their US counterpart or does it have a unique mastering? Quite a few of these are CD-only compilations that would appear to have been done originally by OJC in the US. If Sonny Stitt's "Soul People" is simply the US-mastered CD with an obi stuck on it, I don't need it. If it's differently mastered, I would want it to compare to the US CD if only because it's one of my favorite Sonny Stitt dates. Kevin Quote
Bluerein Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Kevin: these are not the Fantasy compilations you're talking about. JVC issued the original LP's in the 90's on VICJ-23xxx numbered cd's. These series don't list any info on the re-mastering. Manufactured in Japan from masteres owned by Fantasy USA is all I could find on these. They do have the original artwork (front and back) reproduced which is cool too. I don't think you should need them just for sonics since the Fantasy remasters are good as well. Quote
etherbored Posted December 7, 2006 Author Report Posted December 7, 2006 If Sonny Stitt's "Soul People" is simply the US-mastered CD with an obi stuck on it, I don't need it. If it's differently mastered, I would want it to compare to the US CD if only because it's one of my favorite Sonny Stitt dates. it's not. these were mastered by japan victor engineers and i think they'd be of interest for you. my opinion is that, in most (but not all) cases they're much cleaner than their american countrparts. however, keep in mind that this is as inexpensive as japanese pressings get. this means it's affordable to be curious. -e- Quote
Bluerein Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 VICJ list now updated and confirmed by Mr. Tanno. SO get your pre-orders in and give him a nice Christmas (business wise that is). Quote
etherbored Posted December 8, 2006 Author Report Posted December 8, 2006 that's right - the tanno's are saving for a second bmw! -e- Quote
Bluerein Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 so you're that close to Hiroshi! Quote
etherbored Posted December 8, 2006 Author Report Posted December 8, 2006 reinier, i've stayed with he and his wife yoko in their home twice and help him translate his emails and website... -e- Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 I put my order in with Hiroshi. I ordered: VICJ 41811(16 bit) Criss,Sonny(as)/Sonny's Dream 1000 VICJ 41812(20 bit K2) Terry,Clark(tp)/Serenade To A Bus Seat 1000 VICJ 41814(16 bit) Fuller,Curtis(tb)/With Red Garland 1000 VICJ 41817(16 bit) Griffin,Johnny(ts) & Eddie Davis(ts)/Lookin' At Monk 1000 VICJ 41820(16 bit) Jordan,Clifford(ts)/Spellbound 1000 VICJ 41831(16 bit) Jones,Sam(b)/Soul Society 1000 VICJ 41862(20 bit k2) Ammons,Gene(ts)/Goodbye 1000 VICJ 41863(20 bit k2) Stitt,Sonny(as)/So Doggone Good 1000 VICJ 41887(20 bit k2) Roach,Freddie(org)/My People 1000 VICJ 41890(20 bit k2) Timmons,Bobby(p)/Got To Get It 1000 VICJ 41894(16 bit) Stitt,Sonny(as) & Jack McDuff/Meets Brother Jack 1000 VICJ 41896(16 bit) Griffin,Johnny(ts)/Grab This! 1000 Some of these fall under the "I've always wondered...." banner, others are ones that I've been meaning to buy for a while but I just haven't gotten around to it. I had several others that I wavered on but when I checked into them many are on two-fers in the US. Offhand, do I have any real stinkers in here? Kevin Quote
etherbored Posted December 8, 2006 Author Report Posted December 8, 2006 Offhand, do I have any real stinkers in here? to the contrary, imho. you could push the envelope a little more and choose some shirley scott and cal tjader... otherwise, no losers in your picks. i like 'soul society' and 'seranade to a bus seat' quite a lot, but all of them are nice (although i don't know the timmons; bet it's tasty). -e- Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 Sorry to say "Got to get it" is my least favourite Timmons. There's a femme voc group on some tracks which doesn't improve things. And Tom Mackintosh's arrangements don't seem entirely suitable for Timmons' style to me. Got to give Orrin credit for trying to put Bobby into a different context and he plays OK. But it just doesn't gel for me. MG Quote
etherbored Posted December 8, 2006 Author Report Posted December 8, 2006 wow - a bobby timmons mash-up. cool... -e- Quote
J.A.W. Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 (edited) I put my order in with Hiroshi. I ordered: VICJ 41811(16 bit) Criss,Sonny(as)/Sonny's Dream 1000 VICJ 41812(20 bit K2) Terry,Clark(tp)/Serenade To A Bus Seat 1000 VICJ 41814(16 bit) Fuller,Curtis(tb)/With Red Garland 1000 VICJ 41817(16 bit) Griffin,Johnny(ts) & Eddie Davis(ts)/Lookin' At Monk 1000 VICJ 41820(16 bit) Jordan,Clifford(ts)/Spellbound 1000 VICJ 41831(16 bit) Jones,Sam(b)/Soul Society 1000 VICJ 41862(20 bit k2) Ammons,Gene(ts)/Goodbye 1000 VICJ 41863(20 bit k2) Stitt,Sonny(as)/So Doggone Good 1000 VICJ 41887(20 bit k2) Roach,Freddie(org)/My People 1000 VICJ 41890(20 bit k2) Timmons,Bobby(p)/Got To Get It 1000 VICJ 41894(16 bit) Stitt,Sonny(as) & Jack McDuff/Meets Brother Jack 1000 VICJ 41896(16 bit) Griffin,Johnny(ts)/Grab This! 1000 (...) Offhand, do I have any real stinkers in here? Musically or sonically? If I didn't already have them on CD, I'd pick these from your list: Clark Terry - Serenade to a Bus Seat Clifford Jordan - Spellbound Sam Jones - The Soul Society The others don't do it for me. Edited December 8, 2006 by J.A.W. Quote
etherbored Posted December 8, 2006 Author Report Posted December 8, 2006 hans, you may try to fool some of the people some of the time, but we know you sit home after hours and groove to dorthy ashby! , -e- Quote
J.A.W. Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 hans, you may try to fool some of the people some of the time, but we know you sit home after hours and groove to dorthy ashby! , -e- Yeah right... I'd rather sell my music collection... Quote
J.A.W. Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 hans, you may try to fool some of the people some of the time, but we know you sit home after hours and groove to dorthy ashby! , -e- Yeah right... I'd rather sell my music collection... And I don't groove Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 hans, you may try to fool some of the people some of the time, but we know you sit home after hours and groove to dorthy ashby! , -e- Yeah right... I'd rather sell my music collection... And I don't groove Oh, you must do - you've got all those Harold Mabern albums... MG Quote
J.A.W. Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 hans, you may try to fool some of the people some of the time, but we know you sit home after hours and groove to dorthy ashby! , -e- Yeah right... I'd rather sell my music collection... And I don't groove Oh, you must do - you've got all those Harold Mabern albums... MG You seem to know more than I do - which Mabern albums?? Quote
J.A.W. Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 (edited) hans, you may try to fool some of the people some of the time, but we know you sit home after hours and groove to dorthy ashby! , -e- Yeah right... I'd rather sell my music collection... And I don't groove Oh, you must do - you've got all those Harold Mabern albums... MG You seem to know more than I do - which Mabern albums?? There's one Mabern twofer in my "get rid of as soon as you can"-pile, and that's Wailin', and nothing in my collection. Edited December 8, 2006 by J.A.W. Quote
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