mikelz777 Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 (edited) What are the most popular Mosaics? Out of curiosity, boredom and not an insignificant amount of too much time on my hands, I went through the "Which Mosaic are you enjoying right now" thread (all 103 pages) and tallied which Mosaics were mentioned and then ranked them. (From May 2004 to present) It's not exactly a scientific method but I thought it would be interesting and with over two years worth of picks, it may be a fair indicator of which Mosaics people reached for the most often. What would you guess the top 5 were? How about the top 10? Make your guesses then check out the list below. Were there any surprises? Ones you woud have thought rated higher? Ones you thought would have rated lower? Multiple listing under a number indicates a tie. # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # Box Sets 1. J.J. Johnson 2. Anita O’Day 3. Sonny Stitt 4. Elvin Jones 5. Hank Mobley 6. Jazz Crusaders 7. Count Basie (Clef/Verve) 8. Art Farmer/Benny Golson Jazztet 9. Tal Farlow 10. Roy Eldridge 11. Gerry Mulligan Concert Jazz Band Stanley Turrentine 12. Columbia Small Groups 13. Lee Morgan/Wayne Shorter Vee-Jay Tristano/Konitz/Marsh 14. Max Roach Thad Jones Johnny Smith 15. Donald Byrd/Pepper Adams Jackie McLean 16. Horace Parlan 17. Johnny Hodges Wynton Kelly/Paul Chambers 18. Blue Mitchell Count Basie (Roulette) 19. Joe Pass 20. Stan Kenton Selects 1. Andrew Hill 2. John Patton 3. Randy Weston 4. Bob Brookmeyer 5. Bud Shank/Bob Cooper 6. Charles Tolliver Carmell Jones 7. Bennie Green Dizzy Reece 8. Sidney Bechet Curtis Amy 9. Don Pullen 10. Art Pepper Grachan Moncur Edited November 21, 2006 by mikelz777 Quote
sidewinder Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 I'm amazed that the Four Freshmen didn't make the cut.. Quote
jazzbo Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 (edited) Funny, my top five big sets don't appear on the list really! (No exact order) Nichols Parker Bix/Tram/Tea Hodes Capitol Edited November 21, 2006 by jazzbo Quote
brownie Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 Missing are all the early sets. The ones I still prefer! Quote
Guy Berger Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 I'm guessing this would be biased toward mosaics that either came out recently, or ones that went OOP recently. Guy Quote
jazzbo Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 There's a Gerald Wilson Select? Quote
Brad Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 Didn't Mosaic send an email last week, something to the effect of most asked about Mosaics, with Hank at the top. I know the Django Mosaic was also in the top 5. Quote
Brad Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 Found the email. Here is the content: Around this time of year, we receive a number of inquiries asking for our recommendations on box sets. "All of Them!" should be our answer as they are all wonderful examples of this great American art form. But there are definitely sets that seem to have greater appeal than others and what follows are some of the best selling Mosaic Box sets and Mosaic Selects that are still in print. Boxes Hank Mobley Johnny Hodges Django Bix Beiderbecke Peggy Lee and June Christy Selects Grachan Moncur Randy Weston Bob Brookmeyer Quote
mikelz777 Posted November 21, 2006 Author Report Posted November 21, 2006 There's a Gerald Wilson Select? My mistake, the list was corrected. Quote
B. Goren. Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 For me, number 1 is Andrew Hill (Set # 161, his BN recordings, 1963-66). Quote
mikelz777 Posted November 21, 2006 Author Report Posted November 21, 2006 I only have 5 of the big box sets and all of them are included on the list. Three of the five are on the top 10, four of the five are in the top 11 and I top out with Horace Parlan at number 16. I have five Selects which range between 2 and 8 on the list. It would be very hard to pick a favorite among the big boxes but it would be safe to say that Tal Farlow would be the 5th of 5 and I enjoy that set a lot. I'm not sure I could pick a favorite among the Selects either. When you have only 5 of each, they're all my favorites. Quote
Edward Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 My favorite Mosaics are all older sets: Nat King Cole Trio, Buddy de Franco, Art Hodes, Amos Milburn, and Shorty Rogers. I do not have very many Mosaic Selects, but I really love the Carmell Jones set. Quote
Bol Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 (edited) My fave: Mulligan CJB. Second: Dhango Reinhardt. Also very fond of my first Mosaics: Curtis Fuller & Thad Jones. Edited November 22, 2006 by Bol Quote
Quincy Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 Do the sets with more discs have a better chance of being mentioned as well? Not surprised at the J.J. and Anita ranking highly as you just can't get people to shut up about those sets around here. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 I love the Johnny Hodges set. It is probably my favorite Mosaic right, but just by a bit. I may even buy a second box as a back-up. Later, Kevin Quote
Matthew Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 I love the Johnny Hodges set. It is probably my favorite Mosaic right, but just by a bit. I may even buy a second box as a back-up. Later, Kevin Amen! Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 Found the email. Here is the content: Around this time of year, we receive a number of inquiries asking for our recommendations on box sets. "All of Them!" should be our answer as they are all wonderful examples of this great American art form. But there are definitely sets that seem to have greater appeal than others and what follows are some of the best selling Mosaic Box sets and Mosaic Selects that are still in print. Boxes Hank Mobley Johnny Hodges Django Bix Beiderbecke Peggy Lee and June Christy Selects Grachan Moncur Randy Weston Bob Brookmeyer I wondered about that e-mail. We have here a firm that makes its living by issuing limited editions. As far as I know, each set only has 5,000 copies. So a more popular set will sell out more quickly than an unpopular one. My guess is that the list includes the ones that Mosaic needs most urgently to sell. That would seem to indicate that they're the slowest selling ones; the least popular. Am I too cynical? MG Quote
Aggie87 Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 Do the sets with more discs have a better chance of being mentioned as well? Not surprised at the J.J. and Anita ranking highly as you just can't get people to shut up about those sets around here. I think Quincy has a good question there. I've noticed alot of folks make multiple posts when listening to a Mosaic box, one post for each disc. That could kind of skew the results... Quote
Matthew Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 Do the sets with more discs have a better chance of being mentioned as well? Not surprised at the J.J. and Anita ranking highly as you just can't get people to shut up about those sets around here. I think Quincy has a good question there. I've noticed alot of folks make multiple posts when listening to a Mosaic box, one post for each disc. That could kind of skew the results... Aggie is saying that the Republicans are running this vote. Quote
brownie Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 Is Charlie Parker forgotten to the extent that he does not rate a mention? My favorite Mosaic - the one I really waited for for months on before it finally came out - was the Dean Benedetti recordings set! And despite the flaws, it's still one of my favorites! Quote
mikelz777 Posted November 22, 2006 Author Report Posted November 22, 2006 (edited) Is Charlie Parker forgotten to the extent that he does not rate a mention? My favorite Mosaic - the one I really waited for for months on before it finally came out - was the Dean Benedetti recordings set! And despite the flaws, it's still one of my favorites! Believe it or not, even The 4 Freshman received more mentions. Edited November 22, 2006 by mikelz777 Quote
Niko Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 I wondered about that e-mail. We have here a firm that makes its living by issuing limited editions. As far as I know, each set only has 5,000 copies. So a more popular set will sell out more quickly than an unpopular one. My guess is that the list includes the ones that Mosaic needs most urgently to sell. That would seem to indicate that they're the slowest selling ones; the least popular. Am I too cynical? MG if you're too cynical, I'm too cynical, too - let's hope for the best Quote
mikelz777 Posted November 22, 2006 Author Report Posted November 22, 2006 Do the sets with more discs have a better chance of being mentioned as well? Not surprised at the J.J. and Anita ranking highly as you just can't get people to shut up about those sets around here. I think Quincy has a good question there. I've noticed alot of folks make multiple posts when listening to a Mosaic box, one post for each disc. That could kind of skew the results... I'm sure you're right and that is why I said that this was by no means a scientific method of determining which Mosaics were most popular. I merely tallied a set whenever it was mentioned. The results are probably skewed toward the sets with more dics, the ones that were new in the last 2 years, the ones that went out of print or circulation in the last two years, or towards the tastes of the most avid and voracious posters. Quote
mikelz777 Posted November 22, 2006 Author Report Posted November 22, 2006 I wondered about that e-mail. We have here a firm that makes its living by issuing limited editions. As far as I know, each set only has 5,000 copies. So a more popular set will sell out more quickly than an unpopular one. My guess is that the list includes the ones that Mosaic needs most urgently to sell. That would seem to indicate that they're the slowest selling ones; the least popular. Am I too cynical? MG if you're too cynical, I'm too cynical, too - let's hope for the best I was pretty cynical as well. If I look at all the sets still available and compare, would I place June Christie and Peggy Lee as one of their best sellers? Hmmm....................... Quote
jazzbo Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 Thing is there is a component of Mosaic purchasers who are not members of this forum. Believe it or not! I even know one, who is into exactly the type of stuff as the Bix/Tram/Tea and the Lee/Christy who doesn't even go on the internet, and he has pals that are into more prebop than postbop who shop at Mosaic. So. . . I guess I'm not that cynical, and I guess I am willing to believe that these could be items "moving". . . . Quote
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