chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 ....specifically when comparing the g. coleman stuff- how is rivers on this. i passed up on this one today cause i thought nothing can come close to the 1960 version of this same setlist, w/ trane--- and if anything was gonna come close it was the george coleman version of the same setlist- but what about miles in tokyo? how do you guys stack it up compared to what ive already mentioned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Sam's great on this, & a lot more "in your face" than George would be. Buy with confidence, I say. Yeah, the 1960 stuff w/Trane is the shit. But this is pretty damn fine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 A fantastic record, not to be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 A fantastic record, not to be missed. What he said. The opportunity to hear Sam with this band - priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 One of the most interesting live Miles date from that very essential era! Even managed to get two copies of the Japanese original vinyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 A fantastic record, not to be missed. What he said. The opportunity to hear Sam with this band - priceless. Exactly my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 One of the most interesting live Miles date from that very essential era! Even managed to get two copies of the Japanese original vinyl You've persuaded me to pull my (one) copy of the CBS-Sony from the Miles rack today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 There's plenty talk of this and the other tapes of Sam with the band on these pages. . . try using the search function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 (edited) this album is burning! Check out how out So What and Walkin get, I also like how on the CD label they duplicate the Japanese CBS/Sony design. Edited November 12, 2006 by CJ Shearn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Better yet, get the "Seven Steps" box. It's got that album and all the other essential live sets from that period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Better yet, get the "Seven Steps" box. It's got that album and all the other essential live sets from that period. Agree with Beef Rank. One of the best Miles box sets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 I had this as an import CD and later picked up the "Seven Steps" box. This is a wonderful set. No, Rivers is not Trane, Coleman, or Shorter, but he doesn't have to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evonce Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 More than just Rivers' playing in itself, listen to how the rhythm team responds to him in comparison to Miles. Given that contrast, it's not suprising this lineup didn't last, but thank goodness we have the souvenirs. And yeah, the Seven Steps box is wonderful from start to finish. What a great period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted November 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 if i poo-ed in a shoebox and stampted it: MILES DAVIS you guys would give it a 5 star rating. i dont give a hoot about miles or herbie hancock and the band all i care about is how sam rivers solos over the changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Sam plays like a motherfucker. Can I make it any more plain than that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 For myself - and I realize that Miles (at least during that period) played for himself and not for me or anyone else - I wish Miles had kept Sam Rivers and had forgotten about Wayne Shorter. But, hey, that's just me. So - another for Miles in Tokyo and Sam Rivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Get it. Sam Rivers sounds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 I will have to give a relisten. I was underwhelmed and haven't spun this in ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 For myself - and I realize that Miles (at least during that period) played for himself and not for me or anyone else - I wish Miles had kept Sam Rivers and had forgotten about Wayne Shorter. But, hey, that's just me. So - another for Miles in Tokyo and Sam Rivers. You know, pretty amazing to think how the whole face of jazz would be different had Sam kept aht tenor chair! I hope that one day the estate releases official versions of the other two Japanese shows that exist in boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 I will have to give a relisten. I was underwhelmed and haven't spun this in ages. Me too. I've had the japanese vinyl for years and I also was underwhelmed then. But I bought the recent cd issue to see if my feelings have changed, but they haven't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 My taste is rather conservative. I love the Miles group with George Coleman, but am not particularly fond of the playing of Sam Rivers with Miles. The only Sam Rivers recordings I personally like are a couple of the dates he did for Blue Note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Just a PS in the chronicle of MD, but an interesting one. I bought a Japanese lp as soon as it was issued. If MD is a favorite, I suggest getting the material. The earlier suggestion of the Sony box is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 For me, what it speaks volumes of is the fact that it's hard to "sit in" with a Miles band, or even have a brief stint, especially during these years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ep1str0phy Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 To reiterate and add (a bit), Sam is in a different stratosphere in this one. Which is not to say that he outpaces the band, or that the "other" horn (Miles) sounds outdated by comparison--it's just that this was a group of cats who were willing to move with the flow of outness... and, whereas, Miles could rein them in tight, Sam could take them out loose. I don't find Sam more jarring on this one than on Into Something!, for example, but he's clearly not as much of a 'unity' with Miles as Wayne was. All in all, it makes for some startling stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Wayne was the right guy for this band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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