bebopbob Posted August 17, 2003 Report Posted August 17, 2003 I've been surfing the web with no luck for a complete track listing and LP title list for the Buddy De Franco-Sonny Clark Mosaic set. I know of two CDs from Japan that I think are probably on the Mosaic set but I'm not sure. The two CDs are: The Artistry of Buddy De Franco Pretty Moods by Buddy De Franco (mini LP style packaging) - for sale at Dusty Groove Would also appreciate any info on whether more Buddy De Franco Verve LPs have been issued on CD in Japan. Quote
brownie Posted August 17, 2003 Report Posted August 17, 2003 Don't have a De Franco/Clark Mosaic track list handy but the Mosaic set included everything the De Franco small groups with Sonny Clark recorded for Norgran/Verve. This excluded 'Odalisque' a 1953 De Franco big band date and 'Broadway Showcase', a 1956 De Franco session with strings. Both had Sonny Clark on piano. You can view a discography of Sonny Clark at http://www.jazzdisco.org/clark-dis/c/ Quote
sidewinder Posted August 17, 2003 Report Posted August 17, 2003 (edited) From the booklet, the tracks from this set were compiled from the following Verve albums: MGV8158 Jazz Tones (originally Norgran MGN1068) MGV8169 In A Mellow Tone (originally Norgran MGN1068) MGV8182 Odalisque (originally Norgran MGN1094) MGV8183 Autumn Leaves (originally Norgran MGN1096) MGV8195 A Compendium of Jazz (various artists) MGV8221 Cooking The Blues MGV8224 Sweet and Lovely MGV8230 The Anatomy of Improvisation (various artists) 8221 and 8224 both have Tal Farlow added to the basic quartet on most of the tracks. Clark also plays organ on some of the tracks. Edited August 17, 2003 by sidewinder Quote
Jim R Posted August 17, 2003 Report Posted August 17, 2003 (edited) [Edited to correct an error I made the first time I posted this] Disc One Jack The Fieldstalker Cable Car I Wish I Knew If I Should Lose You Lover Man Tenderly Deep Purple Monogram Yesterdays Blues In The Closet Disc Two Mine You Go To My Head Gerry's Tune Now's The Time Autumn Leaves Titoro (Long) Titoro (Short) Disc Three The Bright One Sonny's Idea Laura Everything Happens To Me I'll Remember April Willow Weep For Me Minor Incident A Foggy Day What Can I Say Dear Moe Getting A Balance That Old Black Magic Disc Four They Say It's Wonderful But Beautiful Between The Devil & The Deep Blue Sea The Nearness Of You How About You Little Girl Blue Indian Summer I Can't Get Started Stardust Cooking The Blues Edited August 17, 2003 by Jim R Quote
Jim R Posted August 17, 2003 Report Posted August 17, 2003 (edited) I know of two CDs from Japan that I think are probably on the Mosaic set but I'm not sure. The two CDs are: The Artistry of Buddy De Franco Pretty Moods by Buddy De Franco (mini LP style packaging) - for sale at Dusty Groove Would also appreciate any info on whether more Buddy De Franco Verve LPs have been issued on CD in Japan. THE ARTISTRY OF was originally issued in 1954 as Norgran 1012. It was reissued circa 1956 as AUTUMN LEAVES (Norgran 1096), and later as Verve 8183. So, this is definitely part of the Mosaic. PRETTY MOODS was the title of a 10 inch LP from 1954 (Norgran 16). So far, I'm not finding any info as to whether it was reissued on a 12" (or as part of a 12") under another title. FWIW, I have seen Japanese releases of a few DeFranco Norgrans over the years (before the advent of mini LP packaging). I can't recall which titles, though ("The Artistry Of" may have been one of them). Edited August 17, 2003 by Jim R Quote
Jim R Posted August 17, 2003 Report Posted August 17, 2003 I just looked at Dusty Groove. PRETTY MOODS is currently out of stock, but the session includes Clark, and all four of the tunes they list are on disc one of the Mosaic set. Seeing the cover art reminded me that I once had a 12" DeFranco Norgran with that same cover sketch (could have had a different title...?) Quote
Jim R Posted August 17, 2003 Report Posted August 17, 2003 (edited) From the booklet, the tracks from this set were compiled from the following Verve albums: MGV8158 Jazz Tones (originally Norgran MGN1068) MGV8169 In A Mellow Tone (originally Norgran MGN1068) I think I detect a typo. "MGV8169 In A Mellow Tone (originally Norgran MGN1068)" Should read: MGV8169 In A Mellow Mood (originally Norgran MGN1079) ========================================================== Found details on the web: Buddy DeFranco Quartet Buddy DeFranco (cl) Sonny Clark (p) Gene Wright (B ) Bobby White (d) NYC, April 7, 1954 1535-1 Jack the Fieldstalker Norgran MGN 1068, Verve MGV 8158 1536-3 Cable Car Norgran MGN 1094, Verve MGV 8182 1537-4 I Wish I Knew - 1538-1 If I Should Lose You Norgran MGN 1068, Verve MGV 8158 1539-1 Lover Man - 1540-2 Tenderly - 1541-2 Deep Purple - 1542-4 Monogram Norgran MGN 1094, Verve MGV 8182 1543-1 Yesterdays Norgran MGN 1068, Verve MGV 8158 1544-1 Blues in the Closet Norgran MGN 1094, Verve MGV 8182 * Jazz Tones / Buddy DeFranco (Norgran MGN 1068, Verve MGV 8158) * Odalisque / Buddy DeFranco (Norgran MGN 1094, Verve MGV 8182) Buddy DeFranco Quartet same personnel Los Angeles, CA, August 9, 1954 1868-2 Mine Norgran MGN 1096, Verve MGV 8183 1869-2 You Go to My Head - 1870-3 Gerry's Tune - 1871-4 Now's the Time - 1872-1 Autumn Leaves - 1873-1 Titoro - 1873-4 Titoro (short ver.) Verve MGV 8195, Mosaic MR5 117, MD4 117 * Autumn Leaves / Buddy DeFranco (Norgran MGN 1096, Verve MGV 8183) * A Compendium of Jazz / various artists (Verve MGV 8195) * The Complete Verve Recordings of the Buddy DeFranco Quartet/Quintet with Sonny Clark (Mosaic MR5 117, MD4 117) Buddy DeFranco Quintet same personnel Los Angeles, CA, August 10, 1954 1874-1 The Bright One Norgran MGN 1079, Verve MGV 8169 1875-1 Sonny's Idea - 1876-1 Laura - 1877-1 Everything Happens to Me - 1878-1 I'll Remember April - 1879-1 Willow Weep for Me - * In a Mellow Mood / Buddy DeFranco (Norgran MGN 1079, Verve MGV 8169) Buddy DeFranco Quintet same personnel Los Angeles, CA, September 1, 1954 1920-1 Minor Incident Norgran MGN 1079, Verve MGV 8169 1921-2 A Foggy Day - 1922-1 What Can I Say Dear Verve MGV 8224 1923-5 Moe - * In a Mellow Mood / Buddy DeFranco (Norgran MGN 1079, Verve MGV 8169) * Sweet and Lovely / Buddy DeFranco (Verve MGV 8224) Buddy DeFranco Quintet Buddy DeFranco (cl) Sonny Clark (p, org) Tal Farlow (g, 1) Gene Wright (B ) Bobby White (d) Los Angeles, CA, August 12, 1955 1. 2425-3 Getting a Balance Verve MGV 8224 2. 2426-1 That Old Black Magic - * Sweet and Lovely / Buddy DeFranco (Verve MGV 8224) Buddy DeFranco Quintet Buddy DeFranco (cl) Sonny Clark (p, org) Tal Farlow (g) Gene Wright (B ) Bobby White (d) Los Angeles, CA, August 26, 1955 2458-5 They Say It's Wonderful Verve MGV 8224 2459-1 But Beautiful - 2460-7 Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea Verve MGV 8195, Mosaic MR5 117, MD4 117 2461-1 The Nearness of You Verve MGV 8224 2462-1 How About You? Verve MGV 8221 2463-1 Little Girl Blue - 2464-5 Indian Summer - 2465-1 I Can't Get Started - 2466-2 Stardust - 2467-2 Cooking the Blues - * Sweet and Lovely / Buddy DeFranco (Verve MGV 8224) * A Compendium of Jazz / various artists (Verve MGV 8195) * The Complete Verve Recordings of the Buddy DeFranco Quartet/Quintet with Sonny Clark (Mosaic MR5 117, MD4 117) * Cooking the Blues / Buddy DeFranco (Verve MGV 8221) ==================== Norgran 1068 included the tracks from Norgran 16 ("Pretty Moods" 10" LP) Edited August 17, 2003 by Jim R Quote
Tjazz Posted August 19, 2003 Report Posted August 19, 2003 (edited) These are all Verve Japanese imports: POCJ-2144 THE BUDDY DEFRANCO SEPTETTE/LIVE DATE! 1991 POCJ-2132 BUDDY DEFRANCO PLAYS BENNY GOODMAN 1991 POCJ-2133 BUDDY DEFRANCO PLAYS ARTIE SHAW 1991 POCJ-1943 MR CLARINET 1990 POCJ-2608 GONE WITH THE WIND 1998 POCJ-2607 AUTUMN LEAVES (ARTISTRY OF) 1998 POCJ-2641 BUDDY DEFRANCO AND OSCAR PETERSON PLAY GEORGE GERSHWIN 1998 POCJ-???? PRETTY MOODS 2002? mini cover (I'm not familiar with PRETTY MOODS, haven't seen it at the store) Verve USA releases: Buddy Defranco and Oscar Peterson Play George Gershwin 1998 OOP Mr Clarinet 2002 (in print) mini cover Edited August 19, 2003 by Tjazz Quote
Hank Posted August 19, 2003 Report Posted August 19, 2003 I'm happy to see this thread. I just bought the De Franco Mosaic box at a (relatively) decent price, after years of looking for it. I have a few of the Japanese reissues of his Verves, including one called "Gone with the Wind," which is not included on the Mosaic set, and includes quartet/quintet dates from 1952. Does anyone know who plays on this? Quote
Jim R Posted August 19, 2003 Report Posted August 19, 2003 POCJ-???? PRETTY MOODS 2002? mini cover (I'm not familiar with PRETTY MOODS, haven't seen it at the store) Here's some info: Buddy DeFranco --  Pretty Moods (Japanese paper sleeve edition) . . . CD . . . Verve (Japan), 1954    One of Buddy's great little albums recorded for Verve in the mid 50s -- featuring Sonny Clark on piano, and a harder sound than you might expect! The format is lean, clean, almost boppish at times -- and the whole thing's packaged in a sweet David Stone Martin cover! Titles include "Lover Man", "Yesterdays", "If I Should Lose You", and "Deep Purple". (In a limited edition 5" cardboard sleeve -- with a great David Stone Martin cover!) Dusty Groove just had it for $19.99, but it's currently listed as out of stock... Quote
king ubu Posted August 19, 2003 Report Posted August 19, 2003 I just found a cheap Past Perfect disc called "The Bright One" (some 7$). It does include tracks from the 54 sessions, total time is 76 minutes, complete discographical information included. This might be an option for those among us not wealthy enough to go the ebay-way... ubu Quote
Tjazz Posted August 19, 2003 Report Posted August 19, 2003 I just found a cheap Past Perfect disc called "The Bright One" (some 7$). It does include tracks from the 54 sessions, total time is 76 minutes, complete discographical information included. ubu Is this like the DEFINITIVE label? I'll look around for this CD. PRETTY MOODS - $20 OK, let me have it. Quote
Tjazz Posted August 19, 2003 Report Posted August 19, 2003 I just found a cheap Past Perfect disc called "The Bright One" (some 7$). It does include tracks from the 54 sessions, total time is 76 minutes, complete discographical information included. ubu Barnes & Nobles online lists this CD for $5.98 Quote
bebopbob Posted August 20, 2003 Author Report Posted August 20, 2003 Thanks for everyone's assistance. The Bright One CD sounds like a viable option to the long deleted and outrageously priced Mosaic set. Would greatly appreciate a track listing on the Bright One CD or a link where the tracks are listed. Amazon, J&R, allmusic.com, etc all merely list the CD as being available without posting a track or personnel listing. Quote
Brad Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 Nothing seems to show up for the Bright One. No track listing nothing. Also can't seem to find much for Gone with the Wind. Does anybody have the discography for that one. Very curious about it. BTW, Buddy Plays Goodman and Shaw cds were on ebay recently. Had to pass though due to funds. Quote
brownie Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 I just found a cheap Past Perfect disc called "The Bright One" (some 7$). It does include tracks from the 54 sessions, total time is 76 minutes, complete discographical information included. ubu Is this like the DEFINITIVE label? 'Definitive' is pretty similar to 'Past Perfect'. Definitive come from Spain, Past Perfect from Gemany. Definitive look better. Past Perfect are cheaper. Quote
king ubu Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 The Bright One: De Franco (cl), Clark (p), Wright (B), White (d): April 7, 1954: Cable Car Yesterdays Lover Man Jack the Fielstalker Deep Purple If I Should Lose You August 9, 1954: Titoro Mine Now's The Time Gerry's Tune August 10, 1954: Laura I'll Remember April The Bright One September 1, 1954: A Foggy Day What Can I Say Dear --- The title track is not in its chronological place, but at the end of the CD. brownie: Past Perfect also has some licensed stuff (several Candid albums, I bought some of these lately). So they're not purely a rip-off, it seems. Not that they produce too nice CDs, but at least you can get some good music at a nice price... (I got the Russell/Hawk, Don Ellis & Clark Terry Candid albums in their Past Perfect reincarnations) ubu Quote
garthsj Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 (edited) As Buddy DeFranco's greatest living fan (I purchased my first DeFranco 78 when I was 11!!), I just want to point out that the cut of "The Bright One" contains probably the best "bop" clarinet playing ever! DeFranco reels off chorus after chorus of the most amazing clarinet playing you have ever heard ... together with "Titoro" this reveals DeFranco's advanced harmonic concepts, way ahead of most other contemporary bop musicians. Unfortunately he has never received his due in the regard, although Charlie Parker did recognize this aspect of DeFranco's playing. DeFranco is a true JAZZ GIANT! ..... and he continues to amaze even today ... Garth, Houston. Edited August 23, 2003 by garthsj Quote
Out2Lunch Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 You are right on the money!! Most astute observation today. Quote
Tjazz Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 As Buddy DeFranco's greatest living fan (I purchased my first DeFranco 78 when I was 11!!), I just want to point out that the cut of "The Bright One" contains probably the best "bop" clarinet playing ever! DeFranco reels off chorus after chorus of the most amazing clarinet playing you have ever heard ... together with "Titoro" this reveals DeFranco's advanced harmonic concepts, way ahead of most other contemporary bop musicians. Unfortunately he has never received his due in the regard, although Charlie Parker did recognize this aspect of DeFranco's playing. DeFranco is a true JAZZ GIANT! ..... and he continues to amaze even today ... Garth, Houston. Garth, Did you buy Buddy's latest biography? $65 Delux edition $130 Quote
brownie Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Garth, Did you buy Buddy's latest biography? $65 Delux edition $130 Good question. Is it worth getting? Quote
sidewinder Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 DeFranco is a true JAZZ GIANT! ..... and he continues to amaze even today ... To quote Art Blakey from the (invaluable) Mosaic booklet to the DeFranco/Clark set:- "Buudy DeFranco is a hell of a musician .......... and a hell of a man." High praise indeed from the Master ! B) Quote
JohnS Posted August 25, 2003 Report Posted August 25, 2003 Great music indeed. Anyone seeking some of this music could do worse than look out for a European boot on Giants of Jazz. About 70 mins of this material for around £5.00. Should still be available and certainly better than nothing. Quote
garthsj Posted August 25, 2003 Report Posted August 25, 2003 I am pleased to see that others agree with me about DeFranco's playing.. especially on "The Bright One".... To answer some questions.. YES, I have the new DeFranco biography (how could I, as his "greatest living fan" not get it?); it is a great read, and beautifully put together. Is it worth the money? .. Well, one of my own books currently sells for $45 new, and it is just a textbook, so how can I be objective. It costs money to publish specialized books .... And, second, the Defranco "Jazz of Giants" CD from Italy is a wonderful compilation which serves as my current "automobile" Defranco source. I am in a dilemma ... I own the DeFranco and Shorty Rogers Mosaic sets, both of which go for BIG $$$'s ... but my sets are LP sets, and I have essentially liquidated my entire collection of about 7,000 LPs (my albums currently being sold/auctioned by Euclid Records in St. Louis). Is there anyone out there who is still an avid vinyl freak would like a straight-up exchange for these two sets on CD? I refuse to sell them until I can assure myself of having them available on CD. I may have to resort to having someone make great quality CD-R's for me, and high quality Xerox copies of the booklets. ...AAAH! The joys of being a collector ...... see Harvey Pekar's take on this ..... Garth, Houston. Quote
robviti Posted November 6, 2003 Report Posted November 6, 2003 ...I have a few of the Japanese reissues of his Verves, including one called "Gone with the Wind," which is not included on the Mosaic set, and includes quartet/quintet dates from 1952. Does anyone know who plays on this? I own Gone With The Wind, which features the 16 tracks recorded at the following sessions: Lady Be Good c/w Easy Living / Buddy DeFranco (MGM 11453) Buddy DeFranco (cl) Kenny Drew (p) Jimmy Raney (g) Teddy Kotick (B) Arthur Taylor (d) NYC, February 27, 1952 52-S-103 Lady Be Good Buddy DeFranco (cl) Kenny Drew (p) Curly Russell (B) Art Blakey (d) Hollywood, CA, June 30, 1952 52-S-3110 Easy Living Buddy's Blues c/w Pennywhistle Blues / Buddy DeFranco (MGM 11206) Buddy DeFranco (cl) Kenny Drew (p) Jimmy Raney (g) Teddy Kotick (B) Arthur Taylor (d) NYC, February 27, 1952 52-S-104 Buddy's Blues same personnel NYC, March 3, 1952 52-S-114 Pennywhistle Blues Gone with the Wind c/w Lover Come Back to Me / Buddy DeFranco (MGM 30679) same personnel NYC, February 27, 1952 52-S-105 Gone with the Wind Buddy DeFranco (cl) Kenny Drew (p) Curly Russell (B) Art Blakey (d) Hollywood, CA, July 23, 1952 52-S-3125 Lover Come Back to Me Sweet Georgia Brown c/w Cairo / Buddy DeFranco (MGM 30678) Buddy DeFranco (cl) Kenny Drew (p) Jimmy Raney (g) Teddy Kotick (B) Arthur Taylor (d) NYC, February 27, 1952 52-S-106 Sweet Georgia Brown same personnel NYC, March 3, 1952 52-S-113 Cairo Get Happy c/w Samia Shuffle / Buddy DeFranco (MGM 11250) same session 52-S-112 Get Happy 52-S-115 Samia Shuffle Just One of Those Things c/w Carioca / Buddy DeFranco (MGM 11303) Buddy DeFranco (cl) Kenny Drew (p) Curly Russell (B) Art Blakey (d) Hollywood, CA, June 30, 1952 52-S-3107 Just One of Those Things 52-S-3109 Carioca Street of Dreams c/w The Way You Look Tonight / Buddy DeFranco (MGM 30681) same session 52-S-3108 Street of Dreams same personnel Hollywood, CA, July 23, 1952 52-S-3123 The Way You Look Tonight Sophisticated Lady c/w I Got It Bad / Buddy DeFranco (MGM 30680) same session 52-S-3124 Sophisticated Lady 52-S-3126 I Got It Bad Quote
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