king ubu Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 There was an earlier discussion somewhere, but supposedly not in a thread dedicated to it, so I can't find it with the one word only search function, so allow me to post the full info here, in a new thread. *************************************************************************************** ******************** * * * Miles in Belgium * * * ******************** Information on contents from www.Miles-trees.org A. 1957 and 1967 Total time: 77:37 1. Kees van Kooten on Miles: Friendship 00:11 ====================================== Birdland, Broadway, New York City October 1957 Miles Davis, Bobby Jaspar, Tommy Flanagan, Paul Chambers, Philly Joe Jones 2. All of You 08:26 3. Four (inc) 04:27 -------------------------------------- Peter L's entry Nov '04 October 17-30, 1957 (3 items; TT = 12:47) Birdland, New York NY AFRS radio broadcast Miles Davis Quintet Miles Davis (tpt); Bobby Jaspar (ts); Tommy Flanagan (p); Paul Chambers (b); Philly Joe Jones (d) Introduction 0:10 "Here we go, with Miles Davis and the Quintet, from Birdland, with 'All of Me'..." All of You (C. Porter) 8:16 Four (M. Davis) (incomplete) 4:21 Voiceover 4:19-4:21: "One Night Stand has come to you through the worldwide..." (fade out) 12" LP: AFRS 4448; Jazz Band EB 418 CD: Jazz Unlimited JUCD 2050 I'm unsure of the exact date of this recording. Davis was out of commission during September 1957 following surgery. Ken Vail has the Davis Quintet with Sonny Rollins, Red Garland, Paul Chambers, and Art Taylor at Café Bohemia for four weeks (August 31-September 27), but the first post-surgery engagement was apparently at Café Bohemia in mid-October (October 11-16), followed by a two-week stay at Birdland, (October 17-30). Many thanks to Chris DeVito for help with this date. Sonny Rollins left the Quintet to form his own band, probably during Davis's recovery. Soon thereafter Davis fired Taylor and Garland. For replacements he found Bobby Jaspar, Jimmy Cobb, and Tommy Flanagan. Cobb soon left, to be replaced by Philly Joe Jones. These tunes, originally issued on an AFRS transcription, were probably recorded sometime during the two-week stay at Birdland. According to Chris Sheridan, Cannonball Adderley replaced Jaspar in the Quintet in early October, and he was in place for the Café Bohemia and Birdland dates (see above). It's possible that Adderley replaced Jaspar during one of these engagements, but the saxophonist here is definitely Jaspar. Sheridan also claims that Adderley joined the Davis group for a one-night performance at Philadelphia's Convention Hall (October 19). The Davis Quintet (with Adderley), along with groups led by George Shearing, Gerry Mulligan, Chico Hamilton, and Helen Merrill, then participated in the "Jazz for Moderns" tour which lasted until late November. Some of the venues: Carnegie Hall, New York (Nov 2); Kiel Opera House, St. Louis (Nov 12); Kansas City Auditorium (Nov 13); Huff Gymnasium, Urbana-Champaign (Nov 14); Orchestra Hall, Chicago (Nov 15); Masonic Auditorium, Cleveland (Nov 16); Masonic Temple, Detroit (Nov 17); Carnegie Hall, New York (Nov 22); National Guard Armory, Washington (Nov 23). Jan Lohmann lists two additional items, "Nature Boy" (4:26) and "A Night in Tunisia" (1:30, nc), but I have not heard these. -------------------------------------- 4. Herbie Hancock on Miles : Honesty 00:26 ====================================== Koningin Elizabeth-zaal, Zoo, Antwerpen 28-10-1967 Miles Davis, Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter, Tony Williams 5. Agitation @5:31.27 (= end on unedited) 05:31 6. Footprints @15:19.27 09:48 7. 'Round Midnight @23:07.18 07:47 8. No Blues @34:51.15 11:42 9. Riot @38:34.54 03:43 10. On Green Dolphin Street @47:13.37 08:38 11. Masqualero @0:56.55 - 9:58.49 09:01 12. Gingerbread Boy @16:02.27 06:03 13.The Theme @17:15.43 (TT unedited =63:34.45) 01:19 14. Miles Talks: Whatever 00:24 -------------------------------------- Peter L's entry Nov '04 October 28, 1967 (9 items; TT = 62:32) Konigin Elizabethzaal, Antwerp (Belgium) Belgian Radio and Television (BRT) radio broadcast Miles Davis Quintet Miles Davis (tpt); Wayne Shorter (ts); Herbie Hancock (p); Ron Carter (b); Tony Williams (d) Agitation (M. Davis) 5:32 Footprints (W. Shorter) 9:45 'Round Midnight (B. Hanighen-C. Williams-T. Monk) 7:43 No Blues (M. Davis) 11:30 Riot (H. Hancock) 3:33 On Green Dolphin Street (N. Washington-B. Kaper) 8:09 Masqualero (W. Shorter) 8:58 Gingerbread Boy (J. Heath) 6:02 The Theme (M. Davis) 1:20 CD: Jazzman JM 11742; Jazz Birdies of Paradise J-Bop 042; Mega Disc no number The two CD issues of this concert are confusingly different (probably due to variation in tape speed of the analog master tapes): Jazzman JM 11742: Agitation (first two notes missing), 5:32 Footprints, 9:45 'Round Midnight, 7:41 No Blues, 11:22 Riot + Applause (0:03), 3:33 On Green Dolphin Street, 8:09 Masqualero (first note missing), 8:55 Applause (0:03) + Gingerbread Boy, 6:05 The Theme + Applause (0:19), 1:19 Jazz Birdies of Paradise J-Bop 042: Agitation (inc; fade in as theme ends), 5:41 Footprints, 10:28 'Round Midnight, 7:43 No Blues, 11:58 Riot + Applause (0:03), 3:45 Applause (0:03) + On Green Dolphin Street, 8:40 Masqualero + Applause (0:03), 8:53 Gingerbread Boy, 6:15 The Theme + Applause (0:11), 1:05 The applause spliced in at the end is from a different show. The Mega Disc CD-R: is basically a copy of the Jazzman disc, though there are a few editing errors (repeated notes, wrongly-placed indexes, etc.). -------------------------------------- B. 1971 Total time : 79:52 ====================================== Palais des Beaux Arts, Salle Henri Leboeuf, Bruxelles 26-10-1971 Miles Davis, Gary Bartz, Keith Jarrett, Michael Henderson, Ndugu Leon Chancler, Charles Don Alias, James Mtume Foreman 1. Directions 10:53 2. Honky Tonk 11:46 3. Sivad 02:04 4. What I Say 10:28 5. Sanctuary 02:57 6. It’s About That Time 12:07 7. Yesternow 10:58 8. Funky Tonk 18:19 9. Miles Talks 00:09 -------------------------------------- Peter L's entry Nov '04 October 26, 1971 (8 items; TT = 82:01) Palais des Beaux Arts, Brussels (Belgium) Belgian Radio and Television (BRT) radio broadcast Miles Davis Septet Miles Davis (tpt); Gary Bartz (ss, as); Keith Jarrett (el-p, org); Michael Henderson (el-b); Ndugu Leon Chancler (d); Charles Don Alias (cga, perc); James Mtume Foreman (cga, perc) Directions (J. Zawinul) 10:45 Theme stated at 2:46, 3:52 Honky Tonk (M. Davis) 12:19 What I Say (M. Davis) 12:46 Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) 3:06 It's About That Time (M. Davis) 12:36 Yesternow (M. Davis) 10:36 At 4:44 Davis plays with the repeating phrase that will become "Zimbabwe"; Henderson discards the characteristic "Yesternow" el-b vamp for a walking line under Bartz's solo (5:23-9:56). Funky Tonk (M. Davis) 18:43 Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) (closing theme, applause) 1:10 -------------------------------------- C. 1982 : El Concertissimo Total Time: 79:40 ====================================== Paleis voor Schone Kunsten, Zaal Henri Leboeuf, Brussel (in Flemish, same venue as above in French) 8-5-1982 Miles Davis, Bill Evans, Mike Stern, Marcus Miller, Al Foster, Mino Cinelu 1. Back Seat Betty 11:27 2. My Man’s Gone Now Pt.1 11:54 3. Aida 12:09 4. My Man’s Gone Now Pt.2 04:43 5. Ife 13:15 6. Fat Time 09:30 7. Jean Pierre 16:33 8. Miles Talks 00:12 -------------------------------------- Peter L's entry Nov '04 May 8, 1982 (6 items; TT = 74:10) Palais des Beaux Arts, Brussels (Belgium) Belgian Radio and Television (BRT) TV broadcast Miles Davis Sextet Miles Davis (tpt, synth); Bill Evans (ss, ts, fl, el-p); Mike Stern (g); Marcus Miller (el-b); Al Foster (d); Mino Cinelu (perc) First set Back Seat Betty (M. Davis) 10:30 My Man's Gone Now (D. Heyward-G. Gershwin) 11:10 Aida (M. Davis) 15:40 Second set Ife (M. Davis) 12:50 Fat Time (M. Davis) 9:05 Jean Pierre (M. Davis) 14:55 Video: BRT-TV -------------------------------------- D. 1983 Total time : 72:12 ====================================== Koninklijk Circus, Brussel 25-4-1983 Miles Davis, Bill Evans, John Scofield, Mike Stern, Tom Barney, Al Foster, Mino Cinelu 1. Tune Up, Brussel, 1983 00:43 2. Come Get It 05:54 3. Star People 15:32 4. Speak/ That’s What Hap.. 11:26 5. It Gets Better 10:28 6. Hopscotch 08:00 7. U’n’I 12:12 8. Star On Cicely 07:39 9. Miles Talks 00:18 +DiscH_T1. Jean Pierre (inc) 17:16 -------------------------------------- Peter L's entry Nov '04 (no entry) -------------------------------------- E. 1985 - Part 1 Total Time: 76:40 ====================================== Forest National, Bruxelles 31-10-1985 Miles Davis, Bob Berg, Mike Stern, Robert Irving III, Adam Holzman, Angus Thomas, Vincent Wilburn Jr., Marilyn Mazur, Steve Thornton 1. One Phone Call /Street Scenes 03:23 2. Speak (+1) 13:10 3. Star People 07:22 4. Maze (+1) 10:38 5. Human Nature (1) 09:54 6. Something on Your Mind 10:54 7. Time After Time 09:57 8. Ms. Morrisine 11:15 9. Miles Talks: I’m Livin’ 00:24 F. 1985 - Part 2 Total Time: 58:46 Forest National, Bruxelles 31-10-1985 Miles Davis, Bob Berg, Mike Stern, Robert Irving III, Adam Holzman, Angus Thomas, Vincent Wilburn Jr., Marilyn Mazur, Steve Thornton 1. Code M.D. (1) 09:26 2. Pacific Express (inc) 07:59 3. Burn 07:18 4. Stronger Than Before 08:52 5. Hopscotch (1) 12:40 6. Rubber Band 07:41 7. Encore: Decoy (+1) 07:51 Note for 1985: "1" after a title means in this case that a soprano is heard instead of the normal tenor and "inc" means that the tune is incomplete. If "+1", both a soprano and tenor is heard. -------------------------------------- Peter L's entry Nov '04 (no entry) -------------------------------------- G. 1989 Total time: 72:49 ====================================== Koningin Elizabethzaal, Antwerpen 1-11-1989 Miles Davis, Kenny Garrett, Joe Foley McCreary, Kei Akagi, Benny Rietveld, Ricky Wellman, John Bigham 1. Perfect Way 06:03 2. Star People 14:26 3. Hannibal 07:30 4. Human Nature 11:49 5. Mr. Pastorius 07:19 6. Tutu 13:39 7. Jilli 05:40 8. Splatch 06:15 9. Miles Talks: Street 0:08 +DiscH_T2. The Senate/ You and Me 12:17 +DiscH_T3. Wrinkle 10:34 +DiscH_T4. Amandla 06:23 +DiscH_T5. Don't Stop 06:05 +DiscH_T6. BONUS TRACK: soundcheck-Wrinkle 08:22 -------------------------------------- Peter L's entry Nov '04 (no entry) -------------------------------------- H. THE ENCORES DISC Total time: 60:52 1983 1. Jean Pierre (inc) 17:16 1989 2. The Senate/ You and Me 12:17 3. Wrinkle 10:34 4. Amandla 06:23 5. Don't Stop 06:05 6. BONUS TRACK: soundcheck-Wrinkle 08:22 7. Miles Talks: Gracefully 00:09 Credits: Paul Van Oost, Axel Van Looy, Chris Verborgt -- Concept and Production Rodman and Dxy -- Miles-Trees.Org Henny Reinders -- Artwork The Belgians - Liner Notes JJ Stubbs - ReMastering Jan Lohmann -- Sourcing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Just in case, Losin still has no entries for the respective dates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 (edited) Thanks very much, Ubu. Still loading disk 3. It will be a while before I hear this stuff though as I'm steadily working my way through 'other such material' Edited October 5, 2006 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Drop me a PM (with your email address, or email, if you have mine) if you want my primitive home-made covers, adding composer credits and bits of Losin's info where available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Alas poor Miles-Tree, I knew him well. (Actually I still know half of the tree well!) This was the only of the trees I never got; don't miss it (too much 80 stuff). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 How about the Spring 83? Too much 80s stuff, too I suppose? I joined too late to get any of them when they were originally spread, but I enjoyed the ones I got in trades a lot (L5, 1967, 1983, Belgium, I think that's all... ah, no, of course the Fillmore, too). But with today's trading/file-sharing opportunities, there are upgrades of a lot of shows from these trees floating around, so by now these trees are not as great any longer as they must have been before the internet gained speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 (edited) I forgot about the Spring 83---I should have skipped that one too. I stopped grabbing 80s Miles because I just don't listen to what I have much; the Montreux box is about the best of what I do have and I use that on occasion. 70s stuff I can't live without! Edited October 5, 2006 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Yes, each year that goes by and each company like Gambit that is born with the new year. . . the Tree material grows less and less important. Though the Tree "box set" concept was nice, and some really nice artwork on a few of those (I like the artwork for the Fillmore and the Miles/Coltrane sets a lot). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Miles/Trane I never had, but I have all of it in some form... the Fillmoe artwork is indeed great! I don't think - in my case, at least - Gambit and other companies make much of a difference, it's rather the sharing networks, where astonishing pre-fm or cristalline fm recordings turn up that happen to be better than the versions available at the times these trees were compiled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Sure, that combined with the fact that these small record companies will be putting out versions on cd for those like me that don't do that downloading thing (or maybe not me because I spent big bucks on all the bootlegs many years ago). I had almost all the stuff in the Miles/Trane (even provided a bit) but it was still a nicely designed set and I listen to those versions rather than the earlier ones because of the concept and execution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Sure, that combined with the fact that these small record companies will be putting out versions on cd for those like me that don't do that downloading thing (or maybe not me because I spent big bucks on all the bootlegs many years ago). I had almost all the stuff in the Miles/Trane (even provided a bit) but it was still a nicely designed set and I listen to those versions rather than the earlier ones because of the concept and execution. Still love those trees. But I never heard of Gambit. What are they releasing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Bootlegs, for instance the Miles in Zurich concert that also came out on Jazz Unlimited before (KoB sextet, fantastic show). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Throughly enjoying this set. The 1985 material from 'Forest National', Brussels is not to missed for those partial to 80s Miles. He's in fine lip, the band are driving and much of the material is from the elusive 'Rubber Band' era. Intriguing - as the repertoire I heard in London a few months earlier was quite a bit different to this (John Scofield was also in the lineup too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Storer Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Miles-tree.org is back! http://www.miles-trees.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Cool! Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Awesome. I'm glad they worked things out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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