The Complete Coleman Hawkins on Keynote

[spinlps]

I lucked into this 4CD set last night for $20 but there are no liner notes. For those that have this set, did it come with liners? Or Is this like other Essential Keynote Collection... great music, zero information?

Here's the UK Amazon listing:

Coleman Hawkins Complete Keynote

[Chuck Nessa]

The entire series included booklets with data and notes copied from the complete Keynote box. The booklet in the Hawkins set is 32 pages - half English and half Japanese.

[king ubu]

Drop me a PM with you email address and I can send you a PDF with the discography - the Hawkins 4CD box is great, congrats on finding it!

[spinlps]

Thanks Chuck... guess that explains why it was so cheap.

King Ubu - PM sent. Thanks!

[Ken Dryden]

Thanks Chuck... guess that explains why it was so cheap.

King Ubu - PM sent. Thanks!

Someone just didn't know how to price the Hawkins Keynote set. It's been out of print for quite awhile.

[mikeweil]

I too had found the set at a great price but without the booklet - the shop replaced it, but again, no luck. I was disappointed by the info in the actual booklet, once I had access to a copy.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

wait i thought i HAD the complete bean machine keynote recs- i have like seven 78s worth- u mean theres more? thats the thing w/ bean machine theres always more

[brownie]

chewy, that Complete Hawk on Keynote is a must have for any Bean fan!

Check the list that is on the opening post and see all there is in that set.

Those alternate takes are beautiful! Some of the most valuable alternates ever that add a lot to the understanding of Hawk's ways around the improvisations.

[Kalo]

I haven't seen this in years. Good score, spinlps!

[BruceH]

I haven't seen this in years. Good score, spinlps!

Indeed!

[Chuck Nessa]

I too had found the set at a great price but without the booklet - the shop replaced it, but again, no luck. I was disappointed by the info in the actual booklet, once I had access to a copy.

Complete discographical info and 10 pages of miniscule text by Dan Morgenstern wasn't enough for you?

[kulu se mama]

i might be able to locate a copy of this with liner notes if anyone is looking for it.

[spinlps]

I too had found the set at a great price but without the booklet - the shop replaced it, but again, no luck. I was disappointed by the info in the actual booklet, once I had access to a copy.

Complete discographical info and 10 pages of miniscule text by Dan Morgenstern wasn't enough for you?

I now have the discographical info but not the 10 pages of text.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

god bless the bean machine

[bakeostrin]

The entire series included booklets with data and notes copied from the complete Keynote box. The booklet in the Hawkins set is 32 pages - half English and half Japanese.

There is also a Coleman Hawkins which lists USA as the country of origin. There are no substantive differences in the content of the set. But, the booklet is shorter (does not include the second half which was the Japanese liner notes); inside cover of a set I just bought is blank (where the track listing for the first disc would appear--it does appear in other places in the notes and on the back of the box); lettering on the CD's is black (Japanese one is red). Copyright is different also, lists Verve on US one and does not mention JASRAC.

Great series and very interesting thread. Is there one on the Benny Carter disc? I have been curious about that one; I have seen a few copies of it and none of them has the liner notes in English; usually it is in Spanish.

Does anyone have a copy of this disc w/liners in English?

Regards,

Baker

[jeffcrom]

Great series and very interesting thread. Is there one on the Benny Carter disc? I have been curious about that one; I have seen a few copies of it and none of them has the liner notes in English; usually it is in Spanish.

Does anyone have a copy of this disc w/liners in English?

I'm at work and my disc is at home, but to the best of my recollection, my copy has the same half English/half Japanese booklet as the Hawkins set. It definitely has English notes; the part I can't remember is the Japanese, but I think it has those also.

Edited September 29, 2009 by jeffcrom

[kh1958]

Great series and very interesting thread. Is there one on the Benny Carter disc? I have been curious about that one; I have seen a few copies of it and none of them has the liner notes in English; usually it is in Spanish.

Does anyone have a copy of this disc w/liners in English?

I'm at work and my disc is at home, but to the best of my recollection, my copy has the same half English/half Japanese booklet as the Hawkins set. It definitely has English notes; the part I can't remember is the Japanese, but I think it has those also.

Yes, it has four pages of English notes, and four pages of notes in Japanese.

[bakeostrin]

Thanks for the information. I remember picking up a couple copies of this at local shops in Los Angeles, always the same thing. But, I'll keep looking.

Regards,

Baker

[jazzbo]

The entire series included booklets with data and notes copied from the complete Keynote box. The booklet in the Hawkins set is 32 pages - half English and half Japanese.

There is also a Coleman Hawkins which lists USA as the country of origin. There are no substantive differences in the content of the set. But, the booklet is shorter (does not include the second half which was the Japanese liner notes); inside cover of a set I just bought is blank (where the track listing for the first disc would appear--it does appear in other places in the notes and on the back of the box); lettering on the CD's is black (Japanese one is red). Copyright is different also, lists Verve on US one and does not mention JASRAC.

Great series and very interesting thread. Is there one on the Benny Carter disc? I have been curious about that one; I have seen a few copies of it and none of them has the liner notes in English; usually it is in Spanish.

Does anyone have a copy of this disc w/liners in English?

Regards,

Baker

My Hawkins is just like yours Baker, US, 20 page booklet with the first page about disc 1 not printed on the inside cover.

Such fantastic music!

My Carter disc is a European printing with notes in Spanish.

[AllenLowe]

Coleman Hawkins is god -

just my opinion.

[JETman]

Coleman Hawkins is god -

just my opinion.

I've obviously been practicing the wrong religion all these years!

[AllenLowe]

well, my favorite thing was Barry Harris telling me about working with Hawk, and hearing him play All the Things You Are:

"I began to think that maybe I had idealized Bird and Bud too much, because here was someone who lived and kept growing."

there is no higher praise -

[spinlps]

Funny this popped up yesterday. I "found" my copy last night while organizing the music room. I thought it might have been out on permanent loan but it was nice to see it on the shelves again... even w/o liner notes.

[gmonahan]

Coleman Hawkins is god -

just my opinion.

I thought that was Bud Powell. Have you become a polytheist?

greg mo

[bakeostrin]

The entire series included booklets with data and notes copied from the complete Keynote box. The booklet in the Hawkins set is 32 pages - half English and half Japanese.

There is also a Coleman Hawkins which lists USA as the country of origin. There are no substantive differences in the content of the set. But, the booklet is shorter (does not include the second half which was the Japanese liner notes); inside cover of a set I just bought is blank (where the track listing for the first disc would appear--it does appear in other places in the notes and on the back of the box); lettering on the CD's is black (Japanese one is red). Copyright is different also, lists Verve on US one and does not mention JASRAC.

Great series and very interesting thread. Is there one on the Benny Carter disc? I have been curious about that one; I have seen a few copies of it and none of them has the liner notes in English; usually it is in Spanish.

Does anyone have a copy of this disc w/liners in English?

Regards,

Baker

My Hawkins is just like yours Baker, US, 20 page booklet with the first page about disc 1 not printed on the inside cover.

Such fantastic music!

My Carter disc is a European printing with notes in Spanish.

Yes, wonderful music; thanks for the information and for looking at your copies.

Funny, as threads often do on this board, I start thinking about several others. This reminds me of the "errors on liner notes" thread, about the OCD seller who had both corrected and uncorrected notes for the Modern Jazz Symposium John Lewis/Getz Verve Elite--I had to have all editions of the Keynote set.

Also, it reminded me of the last record store standing, as I think about where in LA I had picked up my copies of various used discs from this set; definitely Aron's Records (now gone); maybe East Side Records (under different ownership or gone); Music Exchange in Glendale (also gone); Amoeba (still around)

Lastly, because I brought up Benny Carter, I would provide a quote from a great jazz photo book "Jazz Gallery 1" by Burt Goldblatt. Besides great photos, the book contains many quotes from jazzmen about the subjects of the pictures. For the Coleman Hawkins photo, Benny Carter is quoted: I sat beside Coleman Hawkins in McKinney's Cotton Pickers and Fletcher Henderson's Orchestra for quite a while, but found him one of the great unknowns. I really never got to know Hawk. I like him, got along with him excellently...I know it's a funny thing to say but that's the way it was."

Also, Eddie Costa is quoted re Hawkins, "Coleman Hawkins would lean over the piano, plunk down a couple of fingers and whip out a few chords that completely changed the arrangement. Hawk knew melody backwards and forwards and could feel the structure, without harming the original concept. He could hear everything in his head."

Goldblatt photographed that 196 session in NY that featured Costa (released as "The Hawk Swings" on Crown, other reissues followed) and several photos in the book are from that session.

Regards and thanks,

Baker