BFT 39 - Disc 2

[JSngry]

3 ...Very good imitation of Don Wilkerson...

If only you knew...

And soon enough you will!

Edited August 11, 2006 by JSngry

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

3 ...Very good imitation of Don Wilkerson...

If only you knew...

And soon enough you will!

Well, I do, because the artist came up on my CD unit when I put it in there. What I wrote and posted was off the walkman, when I didn't know. Never heard of this guy, though. I assume he's local - to you, that is, not me

MG

[JSngry]

"Local", yeah, but w/an impressive pedigree, and not of the academic variety.

[Durium]

I don't recognize much for this secopnd CD too.

Some thoughts:

3. The sound reminds me to Earl Bostic.

6. Moanin'

7. The hammond player might be Jimmy Smith and I recognize the guitar player, but don't know who it is now !!

11. An ellington like tune, but not his band.

Keep swinging

Durium

[king ubu]

Thanks again Dan, I enjoyed this disc more than disc one - a splendid compilation! Here's some thoughts...

#1 WHOAH! Very nice. Some Hawkish tenor, but a bit more modern. Basie-like rhythm secion, but again a bit more modern. Very nice oen!

#2 Uh yeah! Sounds like a groove the Jones-Lewis band could play... not sure though. Enjoy this a lot!

#3 More hawky tenors... nice, almost a jump tune, but not quite. Enjoy this one, too!

I assume I won't be surprised to hear who's playing on these opening cuts, but I have no clue really - not familiar enough and not spending lots of time with this kind of music of late, so I won't take any chances and embarass myself with unlearned guesses...

#4 All the Things You Are... I have heard this arrangement before, but I'm not sure if I have heard this very recording. Funny how streamlined this sounds after the more honking tunes before! Sounds slightly Konitz/Marsh like (only the arrangement, that is, not the performance)

#5 What's that tune again? From Miles' second quintet, but I can't pin it down right now. Nice tune. Alto sounds a tiny bit too fluent/noodling at some spots, not digging into the tune too deeply. But the solo builds nicely, too. Then he quotes "Poinciana"... at least that one I can pin down... nice piano, but again I have the impression that the tune is played rather on the surface... wouldn't be a problem, but since the bass is constantly playing that vamp the actual melody remains very present and thus the solos not digging into that melody do bug me a bit. Uh, another quote... Dear Old Stockholm?

I've heard Antonio Hart doing Miles tunes, but I guess he'd be a bit more intense (not sure if deeper, but louder, fuller sound...) that this player.

#6 "Moanin'" - like this tune a lot. This alto sounds great! I like the vibrato and the sound a lot! Could this be from James Williams and Bobby Watson? I don't know Williams at all and Watson not that well, but this sounds nice! (http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/jwbw)

#7 Very nice. Love the low-fi jaunty guitar at the beginning! Pretty basic horn arrangement, very nice. Reminds me of B.B. King's Louis Jordan hommage disc, for whatever reason (there's only three horns there...). I preferred the opening mood of this tune, but it's still nice, all of it.

#8 Nice one, not more to say...

#9 Big band - for some reason already the drum break at the beginning makes it clear that this is a big band recording. Driving drummer here! Piano slightly Basie-ish first, but then going places... nice fat tenor! Dizzy-ish trumpet... The trombone entry is hilarious! I like the alto quite some, too! Trombone sounds older than Dizzy (Roy? but there's a lick in his solo that sounds exaclty like Dizzy...

#10 Slightly harmless? Ah, some trumpet, too... Clark Terry? Is this OP on piano? Sorry to say this doesn't do a lot for me.

#11 Uuuuuh, yeah! Sounds like a modern band doing Jimmie Lunceford... I prefer the original, but this is nice enough. What's that tune? Or is it just reminiscent of a Lunceford tune? Ah, yes, just reminds me of "Tain't What You (It's the Way That You Do It)", but obviously it ain't... I don't like this one too much, but I love the groove it builds upon - I love what it refers to (Lunceford)!

#12 "Since I Fell for You". Very nice! From the fifties? Stands in the same line that the "Blues Boogie & Bop" Mercury box explores, I assume. I like this one a lot! Nice drummer again here!

#13 Hm, what's that again? Like these tenors!

[brownie]

Disc 2 proved much more to my taste more than disc 1 but I continued getting into music that was new to me. Which is why I enlisted for Dan's BFT.

Things got swinging right from track 1 up to 13 (same tenor duet classic by musicians I had trouble recognising)

Track 2 did not make it for me but 3 did! One of the highlight of the assemblage. No idea who was on that Bill Doggett-like vamp. Could the tenor have been Bubba Brooks?

Track 4 was a variation on All the Things. Another exercise in not being able to identify who was playing this.

Track 5 also kept me in the dark. Not sure about the alto player but the man is good. I'll have to go after these footprints...

Same applies to 6. The players were moaning all the way for an excellent interpretation that should have gotten them much more applauds at the end...

Track 7 had me wondering about the guitar players until light struck. KB and BB! The final track to volume 5 of the Newport in New York 1972 jams. Great choice!

Track 8 was really appreciated (will have to check on the alto player I should have recognised).

Loved track 9 (sort of live Jammin' the Blues) which brought in musicians of the caliber of Jacquet, Sweets, Jo Jones among others. Will be looking for that one

Enjoyed the rest of the selections except for that ragged Jive at Five. Wonder who's playing that tune without much grace!

Wanted to listen to music I was not familiar with. Got a lot in Dan's output. Many thanks for this!

I'll really be waiting to find out who was playing on those discs ....

[mikeweil]

A thundershower swept away our plans to go out for breakfast ... this German Agust is way too chilly! While my wife continues reading her spy novel in fornt of the oven (yes!) the sounds of disc 2 float through the room.

# 1: Very nice tenor battle with Basie-ish rhythm section. They don't milk it to the last drop, which makes me want more, which is even nicer. But no idea who they are.

#2: I like this very much. My first thought was about the Ray Brown Big Band, but this is a little too funky and modern for him. Well ..... John Clayton?

Yeah, I really dig this, and like all the soloists, which rarely happens to me with big band tracks. One of my favourite tracks on all of this BFT! Thanks!

# 3: Oh well, Jim Sangrey will beat us all on identifying those many saxists ..... After the theme, the boogie shuffle touches in the piano are nice. Yeah, blow man blow! No idea, though .... They're on it, for sure. Some trademark Ray Brown licks in the bass solo, but I don't think it's Ray.

# 4: These are the changes of "All the things you are". I have to admit I don't like the sound/mix of this track, and the typical post-bop blowing attitude here. The saxes sound so compressed. NMCOT, sorry.

# 5: Shorter's "Footprints". I give them credit for their spirit, but this is not to my taste.

# 6: "Yes Lord!" - that's what I'm always singing along as the answer to the theme phrases. Unusual, just alto sax and piano. Nice idea - nice change of pace. Again, no idea. I wouldn't buy this, but it would have been nice to be there while it was recorded. For CD listening I find it somewhat too long.

# 7: "Please send me someone to love" - the first guitarist sure sounds like a blues guy, lots of B.B. King, and a little flat in relation to the organ. The second is a jazz guy - the third (or is this the first again?) is another blues man. I'd say it's just two. Interesting meeting, and a great BFT item. After the short first blues guitarist's chorus there is a solo that sounds an awful lot like Kenny Burrell or a guy that's heavily influenced by him. This leaves me very curious. The end makes me think it's rather Kenny Burrell sitting in with B.B. King's band than the other way 'round - excellent choice, Dan! I'm stumped!

# 8: Nice, but my attention is decreasing - I should have taken a break like with the first disc ....

# 9: Back to big band business! This shows how much the Basie concept dominated big bands. Nice - I appreciate that it's concise and the soloists have differering approches.

# 10: Again, nice, but doesn't really catch my attention. No idea who they are.

# 11: "Jive at Five". Their intonation is close to unbearable! Didn't they learn how to tune and play to a piano?!? Arrghhh! Both trombonistst are out of tune! Horn section sounds like thrown together and very heterogeneous as far as intonation and phrasing is concerned. Tenor starts out better, but loses the piano tuning reference after a while, just the same. Too bad, the writing is nice. Were they all juiced up? Some almost free-form french horn or euphonium - nice idea, but not in sync with the rest! Piano clanks a little too much, overall. As a producer, I would have sent them back rehearsing!

# 12: Nice - there are not enough vocal tracks on these BFTs!!! I like this singer a lot - a clear voice and phrasing like Maxine Sullivan with a bit of the exuberance of Anita O'Day - she sounds familiar ..... I will kick myself, for sure, when I read the answer. More, please!!!!!

# 13: Stitt's "Blues up and down" or something like that, but by more modern tenors. Is this the same team as on track # 1?

Now off to the others' guesses!

[mikeweil]

I can nail 2 - the title track of this

Arrrghhhh - I have this - this bassist should be the first to come to mind when one plays some funky bass with Ray Brown's tone!

[mikeweil]

7 This one fooled me to start off with, even though I actually have it. But when the and came in, it was clearly B B King. Recorded at Newport in New York in '72 with JOS on organ.

Arrrrghhhh again - I was close to mentioning that Smith jam at Newport - but I heard only one other track from it back then ....

[Dan Gould]

Well, I think its time for me to get cracking on the answers. I think couw is the only person who hasn't posted and he said time would be tight; Marcus I'm still waiting on; and poor Dutchmanx in Russia always seems to be waiting in vain.

But I think those are the only participants left, since we know that

Bright Moments will say "nice disc, I loved it, no idea who" (where are ya, Evan?)

Stefan Wood doesn't post on any BFT, he just likes free music and wants to see what others put on their discs.

I'll start cracking on those answers, and probably shoot for the end of next week. That will give us a little time before the end of the month to discuss the many great tracks that didn't get identified.

[JSngry]

# 3: Oh well, Jim Sangrey will beat us all on identifying those many saxists .....

Ain't but one, and I'll not name him becasue I have had this disc for a long time, and because he is an axxquaintance of mine.

Now -is the drumer on #4 by any chance Paul Guerro?

[king ubu]

I can nail 2 - the title track of this

Arrrghhhh - I have this - this bassist should be the first to come to mind when one plays some funky bass with Ray Brown's tone!

Have that one, too...

[Dan Gould]

Answers are written and ready to go. Look for them Friday or Saturday, and in the meantime, maybe couw, marcus or dutchmanx will jump in with their guesses while there's still time.

[tkeith]

Finally got around to this. Very enjoyable set.

01 - Not sure what they're calling this but I'd call it Blues Up And Down. First guy sounds like Hawk, but I'm not sure it's him; more likely a disciple. Second guy has ALL the licks down, but again I'm leaning disciple. No idea on the guitar, but something in the left hand on that piano has me thinking Jimmy Jones. Now (on the fours) the second guy is more convincing, but I still can't put a name to him. I wish they still made records like this.

02 - I think I should know the tune, but don't. It's a little Horace Silver-ish, but I can't lay a title on it. Maybe it's that tie-in, but that sounds like Randy Brecker to me; very brassy, but a straight, modern funk style. Tenor is doing the Eddie Harris thing, but not in the same personal way; still doing it well, though. You aren't sneaking Fred Wesley in on me, are you? Uh-oh... could that be Gene Harris?

03 - Just deliberate, in your face, blues. Not a farquing thing wrong with that. I was leaning Jimmy Forrest, but I think it's someone a bit newer; has that feel, though. Not sure who that filthy mute is, but he's got some Roy Eldredge in there for sure. Could be Ray Brown on bass, but there is no degree of confidence in that, just something about the sound. Now, on the shout chorus, I'm thinking Budd Johnson, but again, sounds newer. The playing here reminds me of Budd's album Off The Wall on Argo.

04 - This is going to tick me off. I know I've heard this. Clearly it's based on All The Things You Are. Horrid recording; the drums are right there in my ear on the phones, but the tenor is tucked in the background while my ear is assaulted by the ride. Could be somebody like Hadley Caliman, but seems a bit more traditional; I think that's the right neighborhood, though. Something is off about the second guy. He's got flourishes that just don't fit in with the main idea of his solo. I'm going to shoot this f***ing drummer. I like the second soloist better, despite the seemingly disjointed nature of the solo. Could one of these guys be Pete Chrislieb?

05-Footprints, but by whom? I'm going to send out an off the wall guess: Bunky Green. It has that shrill, clean alto sound he gets, and enough soul to be convincing. BG seems to have a hard, innate anger to his playing and I'm hearing that here. No idea what the record might be. I like the way the bass pedals behind the piano solo -- spices the arrangement up just a bit. The drumming is a little busy (rock-ish), but it still works. It's like he's going for a Tony Williams thing, but just missing. LOVE the way the alto comes back in. That's GOT to be Bunky. He's like an aggressive take on Sonny Criss -- totally bad ass. Nice Lullaby of the Leaves quote at about 7:00. Doesn't have the technique of Kenny Garrett, but man, ALL the heart I haven't heard in Kenny since OTB Live at Mt. Fuji (or really, since his stint with Miles) is right there.

06-Moanin'. Used to have this (Blakey's version) on my alarm clock to wake up by... reminded me of the blues the day had in store for me, but still, it was good. I like the alto, but not sure I'm buying the pianist. The alto player is for real. I'm thinking of a guy like Sonny Red (sounds too new) or Red Holloway. Man! Right at 4:05, knockin' me out! Way to keep it simple but just make your point. This is a baaaaad man! I see what the piano is doing, but I still feel like he's trying to do too much. I like the piano solo better than the comping (comping is still too busy for the song IMHO); very nice lines, very hard bop versed. Could do without the George Shearing quote at 7:05, though. Something in those triplets in the coda is conjuring Sonny Criss. Otherwise, though, it's too straight blues, so I'll stick with my earlier thoughts.

07-NO TRACK 7!!! Now I'm dying to know what I missed!

08-This is nice. Alto seems like he's going for that Johnny Hodges thing, but still doing it his own way. Well done.

09-Something sort of JATP about this. Sounds like Buddy Tate on tenor. I was leaning Jimmy Jones again, but I don't think it's him on piano. Could be Fatha Hines. Something happening in my ears; trumpet is clipping. I'm going to say Roy Eldredge, but could just as easily guess Sweets. Bone, I would guess Al Grey just out of association for my other guesses. Not sure of the alto... could have been Benny Carter, but sounds meaner. I'll guess Sweets on the mute. No idea what this is, but I'll take a whole lot more of it. It's like some of the Buck Clayton stuff, but shorter. Nice.

10-Has that Concord Jazz sound, so I'm going to say Gene Harris right off the bat. Pretty confident in that. I'll say Sweets right there, too. That was my first impulse, but I wanted to hear him improvise, and that's my call. No idea on the guitar, but I like his sound. I hope this is the Phillip Morris record I actually own with Kenny Burrell, but it damned well could be. I believe that would put Mr. Tate on the drums if that is the case.

11-Damned title is escaping me... I always associate with Zoot Sims because it was his version that prompted me to learn this. Drawing total blanks. Egad I suck. Trombone does that double-time thing like Al Grey. This seems a bit too sloppy and stiff to be the real guys, though. Almost sounds like Chris McGregor's band playing Basie. I'm going to guess this is South African musicians and I don't really know any of them.

12-A little Since I Fell For You. She's singing it the way it SHOULD be sung. No idea who it is. Can't really hear the horns, even with the phones.

13-Now THAT is Blues Up And Down. The recording sounds like a Concord Jazz recording, so my guesses will lean that way. Big sound, very spry. Second guy, same thing, but bit darker. I think one of them is Scott Hamilton. I'm going to shoot from my butt cheek and say Red Holloway is the first guy and Scott Hamilton is the second. I don't know, though. Second guy seems more out of that Getz school (almost could be Getz). Both these bastards can play, I'll say that. Both seem more modern because of the quotes being thrown in. It's second generation (as opposed to the JATP guys who created this feel) but very well done. This is very enjoyable, if a little clean.