BFT 39 - Disc 1

[mikeweil]

# 18: "Mr. Lucky" - the pianist sounds an awful lot like Vince Guaraldi, but the version I have in my head sounds somewhat different, and a little faster. Still, I go for Vince.

That's what I was thinking as well, but the version I know is the one from The Latin Side of..., and it ain't this one. Dan's messing with us again!

I'm aware of this - still it sounds a lot like Vince!

Maybe this is a possibility - but Tom Jobim is only on a few tracks, and there are no vibes here ...

Edited August 18, 2006 by mikeweil

[Jim R]

# 18: "Mr. Lucky" - the pianist sounds an awful lot like Vince Guaraldi, but the version I have in my head sounds somewhat different, and a little faster. Still, I go for Vince.

That's what I was thinking as well, but the version I know is the one from The Latin Side of..., and it ain't this one. Dan's messing with us again!

If it's not Hank, then it's got to be one of the two I mentioned.

(I think)

(I think I think

Therefore I think I exist)

MG

I was trying to protect Dan's secret when I posted, but for those who are ready to have a look...

Track 18 source

ssshhh...

[Jim R]

# 18: "Mr. Lucky" - the pianist sounds an awful lot like Vince Guaraldi, but the version I have in my head sounds somewhat different, and a little faster. Still, I go for Vince.

That's what I was thinking as well, but the version I know is the one from The Latin Side of..., and it ain't this one. Dan's messing with us again!

I'm aware of this - still it sounds a lot like Vince!

Maybe this is a possibility - but Tom Jobim is only on a few tracks, and there are no vibes here ...

[mikeweil]

Maybe this is a possibility - but Tom Jobim is only on a few tracks, and there are no vibes here ...

hehe ... Jack Wilson was a chameleon.

Edited August 18, 2006 by mikeweil

[Jim R]

ssshhh!!!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

# 18: "Mr. Lucky" - the pianist sounds an awful lot like Vince Guaraldi, but the version I have in my head sounds somewhat different, and a little faster. Still, I go for Vince.

That's what I was thinking as well, but the version I know is the one from The Latin Side of..., and it ain't this one. Dan's messing with us again!

If it's not Hank, then it's got to be one of the two I mentioned.

(I think)

(I think I think

Therefore I think I exist)

MG

I was trying to protect Dan's secret when I posted, but for those who are ready to have a look...

Track 18 source

ssshhh...

Well, I wanted it to be that one - but I thought Dan was trying to fool us.

Be nice if someone were to issue that on CD.

MG

[mikeweil]

Be nice if someone were to issue that on CD.

I always wondered why Fresh Sound didn't get around to do it - considering they did first an LP and then a CD reissue of another Jack Wilson Vault LP.

[Dan Gould]

I believe there were three Jack Wilson Vault LPs, and two of them have been reissued. Why this one hasn't is a mystery to me.

Jim R. was trying to keep the secret because I had given him a dub of the LP, so his ID would not have been truly independent and spontaneous. So he gets partial credit for recognizing the tune and extra credit for not spilling the beans.

MG gets credit for mentioning it as a possibility and Mike Weil gets partial credit for what I assume was a bit of research.

Everyone happy with teacher's assessments? Cuz I got a few more lessons coming up.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

I believe there were three Jack Wilson Vault LPs, and two of them have been reissued. Why this one hasn't is a mystery to me.

Jim R. was trying to keep the secret because I had given him a dub of the LP, so his ID would not have been truly independent and spontaneous. So he gets partial credit for recognizing the tune and extra credit for not spilling the beans.

MG gets credit for mentioning it as a possibility and Mike Weil gets partial credit for what I assume was a bit of research.

Everyone happy with teacher's assessments? Cuz I got a few more lessons coming up.

Gawd blesher Guv!

Now, about these two Jack Wilson Vaults that have been reissued on CD - is one of them "Jazz organs"? Could you let me know the details, if it is, 'cos this is a good bit higher up my list than "Brazilian Mancini", even though I've got the LP.

MG

[Dan Gould]

Looking around the web, it looks like I mistakenly thought that "Two Sides Of" (a Collectables reissue) was one of the Vault LPs. I do have Jazz Organs but it was courtesy of a friend. Sorry, MG!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Looking around the web, it looks like I mistakenly thought that "Two Sides Of" (a Collectables reissue) was one of the Vault LPs. I do have Jazz Organs but it was courtesy of a friend. Sorry, MG!

Oh well - I'll ltry and remember not to put that in my BFT

MG

[Jim R]

I believe there were three Jack Wilson Vault LPs, and two of them have been reissued. Why this one hasn't is a mystery to me.

Jim R. was trying to keep the secret because I had given him a dub of the LP, so his ID would not have been truly independent and spontaneous. So he gets partial credit for recognizing the tune and extra credit for not spilling the beans.

Well, actually I already had a mono dub well before you sent me the stereo, Dan. I demand a conference!

[Dan Gould]

I believe there were three Jack Wilson Vault LPs, and two of them have been reissued. Why this one hasn't is a mystery to me.

Jim R. was trying to keep the secret because I had given him a dub of the LP, so his ID would not have been truly independent and spontaneous. So he gets partial credit for recognizing the tune and extra credit for not spilling the beans.

Well, actually I already had a mono dub well before you sent me the stereo, Dan. I demand a conference!

sorry, grades have already been submitted.

[tkeith]

No peakies, one round before the wife got home. Some good stuff in here! I was a little concerned a few tracks in, just like you said I'd be.

Track 1 – A good ol’ fashioned ass-shaker. Has a bit of that Cold Duck Time feel. Could be Pretty Purdie on drums, but I think it’s somebody copying his style (more of a rock feel). Could this be some Gene you’re sneaking in on me? Definitely owes a lot to Les McAnn, but I don’t think it’s him. Fun, but not heavy. Be good for a party.

Track 2 – Somebody who has some love for Sonny Criss as well as those rock ‘n’ roll guys. Not a genre I have any hope of nailing. Nothing like this in my collection that I’m aware of. Again, fun, but not heavy. As it gets further on, I’m hearing a big Benny Carter influence, as well.

Track 3 – Nope hope of getting this, but I’m disturbed by how much I’m enjoying it. The agility of the piano at times reminds me of Phineas, but what is going on with the bass/drums? And the friggin’ Hawaiian guitar!??! You’re killin’ me!

Track 4 – Lap steel rarely grabs me. This is not the exception. I like the head, though. Something almost Tristano-esque about the blend of the two lead voices. I don’t think this is anyone in my collection. I appreciate the musicianship, but don’t think I’d play it again.

Track 5 – I want to like this, but it’s hitting me as way too affected. I DO like the tenor, in spite of that, though. The vocals actually work, in context, but there’s something about the rest of it that’s far too Muzaky for me. A friend was recently collecting a pretty healthy check working for a band doing stuff like this. Sad that that’s an option given how much other music gets ignored.

Track 6 – Unlike most of humanity, vibes will pretty much grab me off the bat. I don’t think it’s the MJQ, but they’d like to be. Something about that drummer makes me want to say Connie Kay (and I acknowledge the MJQ tie-in is influencing that). Vibes don’t maintain my interest, but more because I’m longing for Milt’s down-home blues to kick in.

Track 7 – Odd little take on The Preacher, but I like the arrangement. It’s not Ray Anderson, but somebody who likes him a lot. No guesses.

Track 8 – Older ‘bone work. Similar feel, but not the type of thing I gravitate towards. The bass is strange in the mix. Seems too prevalent. Vibes lose the groove towards the middle of the solo. Seems like the whole band is pushing their tempo limits a bit. Unsure of the tenor.

Track 9 – That HAS to be Gene. Reasoning is simple: I love it.

Track 10 – In a Mellow Tone, one of my favorite Ellington tunes when I was younger. Not a tenor I’m familiar with, unless it’s a very early recording of someone I am familiar with. He’s got that big, reedy sound, but there’s something almost a little sloppy about some of those bebop licks. I like it, but it’s a shade unpolished (actually something I tend to prefer). Maybe something obscure from Billy Mitchell? Doesn’t seem quite solid enough to be Billy, though. Impressive dexterity on the pianist. Bud Powell at ¼-speed; that makes me want to guess Barry Harris, but it seems ½-speed for him. Tenor goes up high and gets it the way Budd Johnson would, but it’s not him; it’s someone a bit later than that.

Track 11 – This sounds VERY familiar. Not like I have it, but like the tune was in a recent BFT. They’re going for that Blakey shuffle, but the band reminds me of the later Horace Silver bands, but doesn’t quite swing as much as they do. Something familiar about the trumpet, but he’s so scoopy it’s throwing me off. A wild hair has me saying Ralph Peterson on drums. It’s the Sebastian Whitaker cut it’s reminding me of, I think. Man, a lot about this sax player has me thinking Gary Bartz (the ideas), but the burn is missing for what I’d expect for GB. Maybe a student of his? Several lines are DIRECT Bartz quotes. Wait a minute. I have this. It IS Gary Bartz, and it’s track 2 THE PANTHER from this (http://www.allmusic.com/album/blue-jazz-mw0000319245). One of the great covers EVER! I picked this up about the same time as Grachan Moncur III’s EXPLORATIONS, and the major difference between the two is the drumming (Cyrille is the drummer on that date). Cyrille would have put this album over the top.

Track 12 – Bood Count. Man, that is one DARK ballad. Getz did a great version on the album Pure Getz. This is John Stubblefield’s take from this (http://www.allmusic.com/album/confessin-mw0000193233).

Track 13 – ‘Scuse me while I disappear. Another great cover (sensing a theme here). It’s Hank Crawford’s take on Angel Eyes from this (http://www.allmusic.com/album/more-soul-mw0000366495). Man, Ray Charles had himself one helluva band!

Track 14 – Fly me to the moon from a needle drop that seems like it may have made the trip a couple of times. Man, that is one pro tenor player! I was thinking Fathead, then Moody, then even Jimmy Heath. I’m right around him, but I can’t get him. Not Teddy Edwards, but he’s on that block.

Track 15 – It’s Blue and Sentimental. Trying to nail down the big band tenor. My first guess was Ike Quebec, but now I’m leaning more Billy Mitchell. Not sure of the band. A bad-ass, for sure.

Track 16 – Sounds Kinda Dukish… then has the Basie tag ending. I think this might be another round of Gene.

Track 17 – Hmmm… this is Almost Like Being In Love. Something West Coasty about this… maybe Bill Perkins? Then again, seems to have a hair more grit than that. This is someone I should know. I’m going to hate myself, but I’m running out of time for this listen. Damn the bad luck!

Track 18 – Relaxing and soundtracky… no idea, but I would like a nice cool, strong drink in this here black-and-white café.

[Dan Gould]

As you saw on the answer's thread you really did a nice job on this one, Thom. Thanks for the comments, and I'm particularly glad you liked the Lefty Edwards track. Barely qualifies as "forgotten" but the man had skills.