Bill Nelson Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 In today's NY Times, Nate Chinen's Playlist includes the first-ever CD reissue of the seminal 1967 fusion LP by The Free Spirits. Mr. Chinen provides a mini-review of this "psychedelic rock album made by post-Coltrane youngbloods under corporate supervision". (ABC Records' Bob Thiele with Rudy Van Gelder). "The band's chief creative force was the guitarist Larry Carlton, who wrote all the songs on the album, though not all of its celestial, acid-warped lyrics. Chinen continues,"Mr. Carlton and the drummer Bob Moses would later play in the Gary Burton Quartet, a more celebrated prototype of jazz-rock led by the vibraphonist Gary Burton, but here they're digging in with Chip Baker on lead vocals, Chris Hills on bass and Jim Pepper on tenor saxophone." I suppose Mr Chinen might add,"When Carlton left, the guitar chair was eventually taken by 21-year-old Pat Martino, of the Berklee School of Music. Pat Martino would soon meet keyboardist Lyle Mays and form his highly successful Pat Martino Group, which still records and tours to this day." (We know who got Martino's spot in Burton's group -- Lee Ritenour.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Wasn't Carlton in the same version of the Burton group that had Dick Haymes on drums? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Nelson Posted August 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Yeah, and for years the bass player for Burton was Floyd Soileau. When Ritenour joined, Floyd gave Burton his notice and returned to Louisiana. Soileau does occasional cajun gigs with Carl & the Bleyboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Well, there you have it. Cajun music was fusion before fusion got fused! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Nelson Posted August 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 The mind still reels at how the NY Times would pay Mr. Chinen to supply us with so many laughs. He was probably listening to the latest from Fourplay while composing his tepid analysis of Coryell's 'Free Spirits'. Ben Ratliff watch out -- Nate Chinen will soon be eating your lunch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 The mind still reels at how the NY Times would pay Mr. Chinen to supply us with so many laughs. The mind also reels at how Mr. Chinen's editor let such a blatant gaffe slip by. Please, please, please be so kind as to post the Times' correction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 (edited) This is the same Lenny Carlton who joined Fletcher Henderson, Wynton Felder and Junior Samples in the Crusaders? Edited August 7, 2006 by Spontooneous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny E Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 That's embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robertoart Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJpFsHV2lo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgcim Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I just read another music article by Nate Chinen that really bugged me, and I asked someone who NC was. They replied that he was probably the gardening columnist before he got assigned to cover music. When you become too knowlegeable about your subject to be able to relate to the average reader, they move you to another section. Look at what happened to Frank Rich... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 NC did jazz coverage for another publication before joining the Times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Man Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 ....... When you become too knowlegeable about your subject to be able to relate to the average reader, they move you to another section. ....... Is that to enable you to reach your level of incompetence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigP Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 This is the same Lenny Carlton who joined Fletcher Henderson, Wynton Felder and Junior Samples in the Crusaders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stryker Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Folks, if you write for a living -- especially if you write on deadline as we do in the newspaper business -- you're going to make some bonehead mistakes. Everyone does. You try and minimize these occurrences, but shit happens every once in a while. The mind says one thing, but you write another and the synapses that are supposed to notice are out having a smoke. I once wrote a review of a symphony concert where the soloist played the Brahms second piano concerto but I called it the first concerto all the way through -- even though the music I was describing was clearly the 4-mvt second rather than the 3-mvt first. The soloist was originally supposed to play the first but changed to the second at the last minute. I knew this but wrote "the first" anyway. For weeks people accused me of writing about a concert that I didn't attend, even though the details reflected specifically what happened in the hall that night. Moreover, the reality when you have a specialty beat like jazz is that you always know the subject better than the editor, so it's just not realistic to expect either a line editor or copy editor along the chain to know that Carlton was wrong and there would have been no reason not to trust the writer, especially on deadline. You may or may not like Nate -- I do quite a bit, actually -- but if you're going to beat him up, do so for truly substantive stuff rather than what is really an infrequent brain cramp. There but for the grace of God ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertoart Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Let's beat Carlton up instead! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei8q80YHQ6Q Edited July 27, 2013 by freelancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertoart Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) This is the same Lenny Carlton who joined Fletcher Henderson, Wynton Felder and Junior Samples in the Crusaders? No. You're getting him mixed up with Larry Metheny Easy to do, because on his earlier sessions he was often credited as Larry Azarra. Edited July 27, 2013 by freelancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Let's beat Carlton up instead! Lenny Carlton would be a more worthy target. He deserves it just for being Lenny Carlton and he should pay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertoart Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Let's beat Carlton up instead! Lenny Carlton would be a more worthy target. He deserves it just for being Lenny Carlton and he should pay! There's a real Lenny Carlton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgcim Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Let's beat Carlton up instead! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei8q80YHQ6Q Yeah, Carlton deserves it for ripping off Johnny Smith's tune "Jaguar" for his tune "Strikes Twice". Even the Ventures paid JS for "Walk, Don't Run". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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