John Patton Wikipedia article needs our help...

[Rooster_Ties]

John Patton <-- Wikipedia link

All it (currently) says is this...

John Patton (born July 12, 1935 in Kansas City, Missouri, died March 19, 2002 in Montclair, New Jersey), sometimes nicknamed Big John Patton, was a soul jazz organ player.

He recorded extensively for Blue Note Records, and performed or collaborated with Grant Green, Lou Donaldson, and John Zorn.

At least Larry Young's Wikipedia article at least says this much (currently)...

Larry Young (also known as Khalid Yasin (Abdul Aziz) (born October 7, 1940 in Newark, New Jersey-died March 30, 1978 in New York City) was an American jazz organist and occasional pianist. Young pioneered a modal approach to the Hammond B-3 (in contrast to Jimmy Smith's soul-jazz style).

Young played with various R&B bands in the 1950s before gaining jazz experience with Jimmy Forrest, Lou Donaldson, Kenny Dorham, Hank Mobley and Tommy Turrentine. Recording as a leader for Prestige from 1960, Young made a number of soul-jazz discs including Testifying, Young Blues and Groove Street. When Young went to Blue Note in 1964, his music began to show the marked influence of John Coltrane. In this period, he produced his most enduring work. He recorded many times as part of a trio with guitarist Grant Green and drummer Elvin Jones, occasionally augmented by additional players; most of this sequence of albums was released under Green's name, though Into Somethin' (with Sam Rivers on saxophone) became Young's Blue Note debut. Unity, recorded in 1965, remains his best-known album; it features a front line of Joe Henderson and the young Woody Shaw. Young then became a part of some of the earliest fusion experiments: he played on Miles Davis's Bitches Brew, then with guitarist John McLaughlin joined Tony Williams' Lifetime. His sound with Lifetime was made distinct by his often very percussive approach and often heavy use of guitar and sythesizer-like effects. He is also known to rock fans for a jam he recorded with Jimi Hendrix, which was released after Hendrix's death on the album Nine to the Universe.

Young died from untreated pneumonia at the age of 38.

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Selected discography

Testifying, 1960, Prestige.

Young Blues, 1960, Prestige.

Groove Street, 1962, Prestige.

Into Somethin', 1964, Blue Note.

Unity, 1965, Blue Note.

Contrasts, 1967, Blue Note.

Heaven On Earth, 1968, Blue Note.

Mother Ship, 1969, Blue Note.

Lawrence of Newark, 1973, Perception.

Fuel, 1975, Arista.

Spaceball, 1975, Arista.

Though I'm sure it could be improved upon as well.

I've never done a major edit to a Wikipedia aticle before, but I have corrected a few details here and there to several articles. Text edits (even with links for citations) are pretty easy -- no harder than posting on this board. And if we want to get fancy about it (to include pictures or formatted text), we can even do that too.

I was thinking of a whole bunch of musicians, actually, that could use some Wikipedia help, but thought we should start somewhere where the Organissimo board's help would have the most logical connection. And what better place to start than with John Patton.

(In other words, we can take on Tyrone Washington's entry (or lack thereof) some other day. )

Edited July 23, 2006 by Rooster_Ties

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

One of the best things to do, I suspect, would be to put a link from the Wikipedia entry to the Pete Fallico piece on John.

http://www.doodlinlounge.com/Stories/Patton.html

MG

[Rooster_Ties]

One of the best things to do, I suspect, would be to put a link from the Wikipedia entry to the Pete Fallico piece on John.

http://www.doodlinlounge.com/Stories/Patton.html

MG

Done. Took less than a minute, even with my triple-checking the change before I hit the save button.

It's just that easy, and literally ANYBODY can do it (including anybody here). Get to it!!

Edited July 23, 2006 by Rooster_Ties

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Good on yer, sir!

I think I'd need someone to hold my hand to do that

MG

[Rooster_Ties]

I see Sangry has made some changes to the Patton article. Anybody else care to take a crack at it??

I know there are some real Patton experts around here (alas, I'm not one of them).

Thanks!!

[andybleaden]

I see Sangry has made some changes to the Patton article. Anybody else care to take a crack at it??

I know there are some real Patton experts around here (alas, I'm not one of them).

Thanks!!

Although I am at work at the present time I had a quick stab with a little waffel and some info pinced off of here. Can we do pictures and stuff on there? Let me know and I will have a bash over the next week or so

Andy

[Soul Stream]

When I get a little chunk of time, I'd like to add a few things.

[andybleaden]

hey maybe we ought to split this up into albums,influence,life sort of stuff...what do you think?

A

[sidewinder]

Put in my 2 peneth - nice to give something back, for once, to Big John.

[Dan Gould]

May I chime in?

The article below mentions Patton. A public research librarian should

be able to get the article.

Jazz in the Ghetto: 1950-70

DH Rosenthal - Popular Music, 1988 - JSTOR

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0261-1430...%3E2.0.CO%3B2-9

Based on the first page that is visible to non-members, I'd really like to read the rest of that article.

[Guest sailor]

Based on the first page that is visible to non-members, I'd really like to read the rest of that article.

Do you have access to a library (public, college) data base?

Article specifics:

Jazz in the Ghetto: 1950-70

David H. Rosenthal

Popular Music, Vol. 7, No. 1 (Jan., 1988), pp. 51-56

Source:

Popular Music

JSTOR Coverage: Vols. 1 - 19, 1981-2000

ISSN: 02611430

OCLC #: 46595915, LCCN: 2004-235612

Moving Wall: 5

Journal URL: http://www.jstor.org/journals/02611430.html

Publisher: Cambridge University Press

Or

http://www.jstor.org/feedback/HelpComment?...act&userID=

here's JSTOR's participation list

http://www.jstor.org/about/participation.html

You don't have to be a student to access. Just go to one of the JSTOR's participants

and have the librarian to help you copy and print the article. :bwallace2:

Edited August 27, 2006 by sailor

[Alexander Hawkins]

JStor pieces will probably be most easily accessed from a University - that's their primary market.

[JSngry]

I think it's pretty damn funny that an article about how jazz used to be "music of the people" has its access restricted to academic institutions.

[Alexander Hawkins]

I think it's pretty damn funny that an article about how jazz used to be "music of the people" has its access restricted to academic institutions.

Not 'restricted' (although I take the point). It's just universities which most often subscribe to the online service. There are paper copies as well.

[Guest sailor]

Call the university and tell them you're a Big John Patton researcher and you'd appreciate the article.

Most will understand your plight.

Look up a jazz professor at your university or state college and identify

yourself in subject line again as a Big John Patton researcher. I'm sure

many would be more than happy to oblige with an obscure source.

Remember the lord sayeth Luke 11-9 "And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you."

Edited August 27, 2006 by sailor

[Rooster_Ties]

Patton's originally from Kansas City, KS (a hop, skip, and a jump from KCMO) -- I'm sure somebody here at the UMKC Music Conservatory would be happy to help.

Free For All -- anybody you can recomend??

Spontoon -- does Chuck Hadix at the sound archives have this kind of access?