Son-of-a-Weizen Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Thank goodness we managed to break free from the British tyrants or today we'd all look like this!! ........but gimme a pint of Newcastle Brown anyday! ....Go Pats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Happy 4th! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold_Z Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Happy 4th to all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeith Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Happy 4th to America and everyone!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Happy Independence Day! Today I've opened up a Beach Boys album, 20/20, to celebrate being an American! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonm Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 ....count me as one proud and happy to be an American!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Had this sent to me. Very nice! I plan to spend the afternoon watching my recently arrived DVD copy of 1776, great viewing on our nation's birthday. When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. -- Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world. He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them. He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within. He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands. He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers. He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance. He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislature. He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power. He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation: For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states: For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world: For imposing taxes on us without our consent: For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury: For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses: For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule in these colonies: For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments: For suspending our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us. He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people. He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation. He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands. He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions. In Jefferson's draft there is a part on slavery here In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Nor have we been wanting in attention to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends. We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor. JOHN HANCOCK, President Attested, CHARLES THOMSON, Secretary New Hampshire JOSIAH BARTLETT WILLIAM WHIPPLE MATTHEW THORNTON Massachusetts-Bay SAMUEL ADAMS JOHN ADAMS ROBERT TREAT PAINE ELBRIDGE GERRY Rhode Island STEPHEN HOPKINS WILLIAM ELLERY Connecticut ROGER SHERMAN SAMUEL HUNTINGTON WILLIAM WILLIAMS OLIVER WOLCOTT Georgia BUTTON GWINNETT LYMAN HALL GEO. WALTON Maryland SAMUEL CHASE WILLIAM PACA THOMAS STONE CHARLES CARROLL OF CARROLLTON Virginia GEORGE WYTHE RICHARD HENRY LEE THOMAS JEFFERSON BENJAMIN HARRISON THOMAS NELSON, JR. FRANCIS LIGHTFOOT LEE CARTER BRAXTON. New York WILLIAM FLOYD PHILIP LIVINGSTON FRANCIS LEWIS LEWIS MORRIS Pennsylvania ROBERT MORRIS BENJAMIN RUSH BENJAMIN FRANKLIN JOHN MORTON GEORGE CLYMER JAMES SMITH GEORGE TAYLOR JAMES WILSON GEORGE ROSS Delaware CAESAR RODNEY GEORGE READ THOMAS M'KEAN North Carolina WILLIAM HOOPER JOSEPH HEWES JOHN PENN South Carolina EDWARD RUTLEDGE THOMAS HEYWARD, JR. THOMAS LYNCH, JR. ARTHUR MIDDLETON New Jersey RICHARD STOCKTON JOHN WITHERSPOON FRANCIS HOPKINS JOHN HART ABRAHAM CLARK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 starting to look like a political thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybleaden Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 (edited) Thank goodness we managed to break free from the British tyrants or today we'd all look like this!! ........but gimme a pint of Newcastle Brown anyday! ....Go Pats! Yes otherwise you would end up not looking like the yobbo football holligan below Enjoy your holiday! Edited July 4, 2006 by andybleaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybleaden Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 starting to look like a political thread... Not as long as we can bait each other!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 starting to look like a political thread... Not as long as we can bait each other!!! Yeah, I know. I'm just not feeling too patriotic today. My nephew just got to Afghanistan a few weeks ago and the holiday just makes me think of how fucked up the world is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybleaden Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Well it was like that before and always has been I guess...just at the moment you guys seem to be driving the car a little. But your independence day is kinda a reminder of when we used to get lots of things wrong Strange how things repeat themselves Have a good holiday to all of you over there and just remember, we let you win then...just for once as we could not afford the travel costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Happy 4th!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybleaden Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Thats more like it!! Combat gear recognising todays angst yet still reaching out to normal US men You would have been given Canada as well if you had all looked like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonm Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 starting to look like a political thread... ...what a shock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 starting to look like a political thread... ...what a shock! I never expected it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christiern Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Here's hoping that we can have a happy Fourth of July soon. First, we need to do some house cleaning and free ourselves of those who would blemish the document Dan posted. Well, it had already turned political, hadn't it? Seriously, our country is under siege by an appointed neer-do-well regime, so I see any celebration today as a celebration of the past and a hope for restoration--I raise a glass to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Here's hoping that we can have a happy Fourth of July soon. First, we need to do some house cleaning and free ourselves of those who would blemish the document Dan posted. Well, it had already turned political, hadn't it? Seriously, our country is under siege by an appointed neer-do-well regime, so I see any celebration today as a celebration of the past and a hope for restoration--I raise a glass to that. Nothing I posted was political unless we've all been transported back 230 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Lots of neighborhood ammo going off tonight. Trying to keep low, keeping the kitchen lights off as I get another beer. Damn, I love the smell of sulphur in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 The Declaration of Independenceand the Constitution are always politically relevent in the here and now. How many of the abuses complained of in the Declarattion has our current regeim committed? Nonetheless, Happy 4th to Dan & Chris & evryone on this board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Oops...better go out and take that flag down before some of the more rabid members notice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybleaden Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Here's hoping that we can have a happy Fourth of July soon. First, we need to do some house cleaning and free ourselves of those who would blemish the document Dan posted. Well, it had already turned political, hadn't it? Seriously, our country is under siege by an appointed neer-do-well regime, so I see any celebration today as a celebration of the past and a hope for restoration--I raise a glass to that. Nothing I posted was political unless we've all been transported back 230 years. and if you do not all stop whinging we might take it back and sell you all to Cuba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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