chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 i forgot this dudes name, but did he really have 2 sell it to concord for 80 million. couldnt he have passed it on to someone worthy of it who would not of screwed it all up. who would you have wanted to carry it on. maybe that chick you guys mentioned? what a greedy bastard. what does a 70 yr old man need w/ 80 million anyway. i hope he chokes on it. the fanasy cateloge is basically an american treasure. he should of passed it down with the utmost consideration in who will be in charge. this is nutz. i bet even BLUE NOTE would do a better job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 (edited) Saul Zaentz sold Fantasy to the highest bidder, regardless how any jazz fan might feel about it. It is hard to fault a businessman for that. From what I heard within the industry, Carl Jefferson's widow probably didn't get as much as she could have for Concord when she sold it. If anyone wanted to be sure to preserve their recorded treasures, he could always have chosen to set up a foundation to perpetuate the music, like George Buck has done in New Orleans. But their is a huge difference between being a businessman and a sort of jazz philanthropist. Jazz impressario Norman Granz sold both Verve and Pablo (the latter label to Fantasy), so even the wealthy American expatriate living in Switzerland had other things on his mind rather than preserving the vast output of jazz sessions that he produced from the mid-1940s through the mid-1980s. Edited June 27, 2006 by Ken Dryden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 who SHOULD OF that guy sold Fantasy to John Fogarty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 You know, I've often wondered if Fantasy jazz was doomed when that whole Fogarty song rights case was settled. It was always said that the CCR catalog kept a lot of jazz in print at Fantasy/OJC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 "Should HAVE", hang it all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 (edited) "Should HAVE", hang it all! And Fogerty, of course... Edited June 27, 2006 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 "Should HAVE", hang it all! And Fogerty, of course... and whom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 And let's not forget: one man's jazz legacy is another man's business. Geez, Aric, tell me you haven't graduated college yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 So then we get Whom should have that guy sold Fantasy to which still doesn't sound quite right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Ahh but in English you aren't supposed to end the sentence in a preposition. So it should be: To whom should that guy have sold Fantasy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:.impossible Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 SAMMICH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 "Should HAVE", hang it all! And Fogerty, of course... It's common knowledge that Fogarty has retroactively changed the spelling of his name in order to invalidate his previous contacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 "Should HAVE", hang it all! And Fogerty, of course... It's common knowledge that Fogarty has retroactively changed the spelling of his name in order to invalidate his previous contacts. Just how "important" can one dude imagine himself? I do understand "bucks is bucks" but give me a break. Without Fantasy he'd be working a bar tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 And with Fantasy, he still might be working a bar tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 And with Fantasy, he still might be working a bar tonight. So it's win/win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Especially if Foaghearty signs a deal with Concord to do an album of standards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonm Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 SAMMICH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkertown Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 "Should HAVE", hang it all! And Fogerty, of course... It's common knowledge that Fogarty has retroactively changed the spelling of his name in order to invalidate his previous contacts. Just how "important" can one dude imagine himself? I do understand "bucks is bucks" but give me a break. Without Fantasy he'd be working a bar tonight. But Zaentz royally screwed Fogerty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 i dont care what u guys think this saul guy is a dick. heres some old man w/ little time left and he has to sell fantasy for 90 million to the higest bidder. and hes no warren buffett giving it to charity. i hope he chokes on all his millions. i guarentee you guys we wont see the full prestige catelogue reissued until concord gets tired of it and sells it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 i guarentee you guys we wont see the full prestige catelogue reissued until concord gets tired of it and sells it again. Sounds like a sure-fire bet to me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 "Should HAVE", hang it all! And Fogerty, of course... It's common knowledge that Fogarty has retroactively changed the spelling of his name in order to invalidate his previous contacts. Well, the knowledge might not be so common as you suggest - there's nothing about it in wikipedia or on AMG (for what that's worth...), or even on Fogerty's website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 "Should HAVE", hang it all! And Fogerty, of course... It's common knowledge that Fogarty has retroactively changed the spelling of his name in order to invalidate his previous contacts. Well, the knowledge might not be so common as you suggest - there's nothing about it in wikipedia or on AMG (for what that's worth...), or even on Fogerty's website. I think that's because Jim was taking his clumsy fingers and making a joke, and that is not the approach that Fogerty took in his lengthy court battles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybleaden Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 i dont care what u guys think this saul guy is a dick. heres some old man w/ little time left and he has to sell fantasy for 90 million to the higest bidder. and hes no warren buffett giving it to charity. i hope he chokes on all his millions. i guarentee you guys we wont see the full prestige catelogue reissued until concord gets tired of it and sells it again. actually it sounds like complete rubbish ( I will use a clean word) if you ask me. No disrespect intended and all that. Surely an example of a going concern having gone. Nothing more. Better than some firms I am more than sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 "Should HAVE", hang it all! And Fogerty, of course... It's common knowledge that Fogarty has retroactively changed the spelling of his name in order to invalidate his previous contacts. Well, the knowledge might not be so common as you suggest - there's nothing about it in wikipedia or on AMG (for what that's worth...), or even on Fogerty's website. I think that's because Jim was taking his clumsy fingers and making a joke, (...) Very, very funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 "Should HAVE", hang it all! And Fogerty, of course... It's common knowledge that Fogarty has retroactively changed the spelling of his name in order to invalidate his previous contacts. Well, the knowledge might not be so common as you suggest - there's nothing about it in wikipedia or on AMG (for what that's worth...), or even on Fogerty's website. I think that's because Jim was taking his clumsy fingers and making a joke, and that is not the approach that Fogerty took in his lengthy court battles. You naled, it Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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