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I think that Metheny and Corea are already classics.

What makes them important

is their writing.

Although both of them had influenced a bunch of piano and guitar players.

For me they are important and influential

as any of the big Jazz names from the 50's.

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  Jazz Kat said:

  Dave James said:

  Jazz Kat said:

Okay, I been stuck in the 50's too long. I need to listen to some modern cats.

Why? IMO, there are few comtemporary jazz musicians who can hold a candle to the guys you've been listening to. Even if there were a bunch of them, they are mostly doing variations on the same theme. Why not stick with the originals?

Up over and out.

If that's true, jazz has a bad future.

Maybe it does...I don't see why we should operate with a premise that 'jazz' has a future amongst the young players. Sad to say, but it's something which IMHO is undeniable about today's scene - there just aren't the individuals around at the moment AFAIC. ['Why?' is a separate question, although doubtless part of the answer is to do with 'jazz' education in the schools and colleges...]

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  Red said:
Sad to say, but it's something which IMHO is undeniable about today's scene - there just aren't the individuals around at the moment AFAIC. ['Why?' is a separate question, although doubtless part of the answer is to do with 'jazz' education in the schools and colleges...]

The social/intellectual dynamic which produced the great, undeniably(you know, the by now (mostly) dead guys that all of us - including myself - continue to draw inspiration of all types from) individual jazz players no longer exists. Or, to be more accurate, it has evolved. The question has now become, imo, how bad do we want/need to hold on to the "style" at the possible expense of losing relevancy to the evolved "substance" of this dynamic? And as a corollary to that - does a music that comes from a different dynamic yet still "sounds like" jazz qualify as same (and what difference does it make)? And as a further corollary - what does it mean that these questions are even being asked in the first place?

Jazz is dead. Long live jazz.

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