wolff Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 (edited) Man, Classic Records just keeps on rolling. Mucic Angle article Their catalog is just sick!! 5 more Blue Notes coming this month and more in the future. 26 Impulse titles in the works. And now EMI titles from: David Bowie Rolling Stones Jethro Tull Roxy Music Frank Sinatra Nat King Cole Radiohead Queen Brian Eno James Taylor and the Beatles!!! From everything I've read being able to reissue the Beatles is an amazing accomplishment. My occasional complaints about noisy vinyl aside, Classic Records is an amazing reissue label. In these days of reissue labels not leasing titles, Classic is in a league of their own. My last Classic purchase was Neil Young's "Prarie Wind", and it's a beauty in every respect. In addition, IMO Classic Records does a better job reissuing Blue Notes than Blue Note. Edited June 13, 2006 by wolff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 did they do the Coltrane at the Half-Note from last year? I'm curious about the sound of that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Yes, I want clicks and pops on that one. The "premium" pressing plants these days deliver goods equal to "decent" plants in the old days. Spend your money on worn originals or cds. -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Yes, I want clicks and pops on that one. The "premium" pressing plants these days deliver goods equal to "decent" plants in the old days. Spend your money on worn originals or cds. -_- Chuck, does that go for that reissued Fanfare for the Warriors on vinyl that I've seen around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Yes, I want clicks and pops on that one. The "premium" pressing plants these days deliver goods equal to "decent" plants in the old days. Spend your money on worn originals or cds. -_- Chuck, does that go for that reissued Fanfare for the Warriors on vinyl that I've seen around? Don't have a clue. I gave up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolff Posted June 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 (edited) I have about 90 Classic Records titles and easily another 150 titles pressed at RTI. All are dead quiet and flat. I have returned about 10 for replacement or my money back due to defects. The latest being the Monk/Coltrane. The records pressed at this plant hold up very well over the years. CD's seem so cheap and worthless compared to what Classic Records is doing. I guess that's a given in most vinyl vs. CD comparisons. The fact that Classic Records gets a shot at the Beatles catalog speaks volumes for how well they are thought of. Edited June 13, 2006 by wolff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkertown Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 did they do the Coltrane at the Half-Note from last year? I'm curious about the sound of that one I finally pulled the trigger on that one a week and a half ago...I was apprehensive as Side 1 is 29+ minutes long!!! But it was just so beautiful there in the store...smiling at me... Have no fear. It's a keeper. Just great, great music. And great sound too, for what it is. It is a stereo recording, but there are quite a few dropouts that I'm sure are in the master tape they used. (Ravi's personal copy; it was his dad's, given to him by the producer of the broadcasts.) Go for it. Yes, I want clicks and pops on that one. The "premium" pressing plants these days deliver goods equal to "decent" plants in the old days. Spend your money on worn originals or cds. -_- Chuck, I know exactly what you mean. I just go nuts when the $4 record sound as good or better than the $30 record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkertown Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Nice to see ya, Wolff! Where ya been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 The fact that Classic Records gets a shot at the Beatles catalog speaks volumes for how well they are thought of. They get "a shot" because they pay money. Don't kid yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolff Posted June 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 (edited) I have a feeling money was not as big a factor as other intangibles associated with Classic Records. AFAIK this will be the first time the most coveted catalog in the world will be done out of house. Classic Records has amassed quite a track record when it comes to prestigious catalogs. Dylan, Hendrix. RCA Living Stereos. The Who, Neil Young and Blue Note to name just a few. I think their stellar reputation was as important as their money. Edited June 13, 2006 by wolff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 I am probably the only one here who's manufactured lps for 30+ years. I've dealt with most of the classic mastering studios (RVG, RCA, Masterdisk, Sterling, etc) and pressing plants (Columbia, RCA, Capitol, All Disc, Wakefield, etc). Gee, I didn't mention plating plants. Where does pre-echo come from? Is it a tape problem? Could it be a plating problem? Is the source of the "clicks" a pressing problem, a plating problem or a bad batch of lacquer discs? Which lacquer supplier has the best product this month? Which resin formulator has the purest solution at the moment? How many of you have rejected 14 sets of plates? How many of you have rejected numerous mastering "tests"? There are precious few operations delivering the services mentioned above and to think they are of the "highest quality" is a joke. Competition in the marketplace does make a big difference. Please do not tell me about vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 AFAIK this will be the first time the most coveted catalog in the world will be done out of house. Nope. http://www.friktech.com/btls/mfsl/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolff Posted June 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 (edited) Duh.... I sold my MoFi Beatles collection about a year ago. Edited June 13, 2006 by wolff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkertown Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 It's okay...you're excited. So am I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Starkwell Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I am probably the only one here who's manufactured lps for 30+ years. I've dealt with most of the classic mastering studios (RVG, RCA, Masterdisk, Sterling, etc) and pressing plants (Columbia, RCA, Capitol, All Disc, Wakefield, etc). Gee, I didn't mention plating plants. Where does pre-echo come from? Is it a tape problem? Could it be a plating problem? Is the source of the "clicks" a pressing problem, a plating problem or a bad batch of lacquer discs? Which lacquer supplier has the best product this month? Which resin formulator has the purest solution at the moment? How many of you have rejected 14 sets of plates? How many of you have rejected numerous mastering "tests"? There are precious few operations delivering the services mentioned above and to think they are of the "highest quality" is a joke. Competition in the marketplace does make a big difference. Please do not tell me about vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Johnson Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Where does pre-echo come from? Is it a tape problem? Could it be a plating problem? I have ALWAYS wondered about this! I assume, Chuck, you're talking about when you hear the opening bar or phrase of a track faintly just before the actual track starts. Where _does_ it come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 In a long ago conversation with Bill Fenohr about a certain Hal McKusick CD with pre-echo, he said that DEEP told him that it was likely a tape print problem that's sometimes caused by storing the reel for a prolonged period of time with the tape being wound too tight. Somethin' like that...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) I am probably the only one here who's manufactured lps for 30+ years. I've dealt with most of the classic mastering studios (RVG, RCA, Masterdisk, Sterling, etc) and pressing plants (Columbia, RCA, Capitol, All Disc, Wakefield, etc). Gee, I didn't mention plating plants. Where does pre-echo come from? Is it a tape problem? Could it be a plating problem? Is the source of the "clicks" a pressing problem, a plating problem or a bad batch of lacquer discs? Which lacquer supplier has the best product this month? Which resin formulator has the purest solution at the moment? How many of you have rejected 14 sets of plates? How many of you have rejected numerous mastering "tests"? There are precious few operations delivering the services mentioned above and to think they are of the "highest quality" is a joke. Competition in the marketplace does make a big difference. Please do not tell me about vinyl. I understand your POW, because it was exactly the same with analog and digital shooting. I worked, and still work as film editor for movies, commercials, documentaries, you named it., I owned a film company (and I lost a lot of money), and digital shooting and editing is an huge step forward from every point of view. For example yesterday I got the speaker's voice as numbered tracks on a cd instead a lousy Scotch tape, I putted the cd in my Avid editing station and in half an hour I did the job. Some of this vinyl revival may have to do with naive desire to get back to 'good old days' when we were younger, without white hair, or with hair, and our trouser's size was the same of our teenagers sons. BUT, when I see good film copy of ' The Searchers' in a theater, I can see the difference with every DVD copy on every HT money could get. Yes, you can see some hairs on the copy, drops, but... When I listen to a original good mastered vinyl, compared to the today's habits to pump up frequencies in remastered cds, I agree with Wolff. Anyway I have a DVD copy of 'Rio Bravo', I can make a copy for you. Edited June 14, 2006 by porcy62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 When they came out earlier this year with the pre-surprise surprise announcement about some special box they were hard at work on, alot of folks thought it was a Beatles package. The formal Led Zeppelin $700 'road case' announcement was a big room deflater, so maybe they'll take another shot at it and go Beatles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street singer Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Hmmm... Whatever happened to the 20+ Impulse titles Classic Records were supposed to be reissuing starting last Fall? Haven't seen or heard a thing about 'em since the initial announcement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Where does pre-echo come from? Is it a tape problem? Could it be a plating problem? I have ALWAYS wondered about this! I assume, Chuck, you're talking about when you hear the opening bar or phrase of a track faintly just before the actual track starts. Where _does_ it come from? Always wondered about that myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 In my audio preservation course, that issue was never solved. Seems more often to be a pressing issue than a tape issue, however, and depending on one's cartridge choice, can be reduced. But I'm not an expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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