Hot Ptah Posted May 25, 2006 Report Posted May 25, 2006 What do you think? Could Katharine McPhee be an even bigger success than Jane Monheit in the specific musicial niche that Jane operates in? Quote
RDK Posted May 25, 2006 Report Posted May 25, 2006 Well, about a million times more people already know McPhee than they do Monheit, so that should help... Quote
Hot Ptah Posted May 25, 2006 Author Report Posted May 25, 2006 That was Jane Monheit's bad career move, not trying to be discovered on American Idol. She might not have won, but she would have been noticed, especially with all that hair. Quote
Dan Gould Posted May 25, 2006 Report Posted May 25, 2006 I wouldn't look for McPhee to start singing standards anytime soon, at least not as a career move. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted May 25, 2006 Author Report Posted May 25, 2006 I wonder if there is any real difference between them musically, but McPhee will make millions being packaged as a pop princess. Somehow Monheit has gained a name as a jazz vocalist--why does she want to be one, when she could also be packaged as a pretty pop princess, and would probably be more comfortable musically singing light pop music. Quote
RDK Posted May 25, 2006 Report Posted May 25, 2006 I wonder if there is any real difference between them musically, but McPhee will make millions being packaged as a pop princess. Somehow Monheit has gained a name as a jazz vocalist--why does she want to be one, when she could also be packaged as a pretty pop princess, and would probably be more comfortable musically singing light pop music. Fame and success in the Arts is a fickle thing. Sure, talent helps and often wins out, but it also takes luck, opportunity, and usually a string of (often accidental) right moves to make or break someone. In my business it's writers. In the field of jazz, well - think of your favorite/best local musician who isn't known outside your town and compare him to someone with a record deal. Sure, there are the Rollins/Shorter giants out there, but not always that much seperates the local bar bands from the pros with record deals. Quote
Dan Gould Posted May 25, 2006 Report Posted May 25, 2006 I wonder if there is any real difference between them musically, but McPhee will make millions being packaged as a pop princess. Somehow Monheit has gained a name as a jazz vocalist--why does she want to be one, when she could also be packaged as a pretty pop princess, and would probably be more comfortable musically singing light pop music. Fame and success in the Arts is a fickle thing. Sure, talent helps and often wins out, but it also takes luck, opportunity, and usually a string of (often accidental) right moves to make or break someone. In my business it's writers. In the field of jazz, well - think of your favorite/best local musician who isn't known outside your town and compare him to someone with a record deal. Sure, there are the Rollins/Shorter giants out there, but not always that much seperates the local bar bands from the pros with record deals. Given the crap that fills best-seller lists, movie theaters, and airwaves, it is certainly true that there is often times not much that separates the "success stories" from the wannabes. Quote
sheldonm Posted May 25, 2006 Report Posted May 25, 2006 I wonder if there is any real difference between them musically, but McPhee will make millions being packaged as a pop princess. Somehow Monheit has gained a name as a jazz vocalist--why does she want to be one, when she could also be packaged as a pretty pop princess, and would probably be more comfortable musically singing light pop music. Fame and success in the Arts is a fickle thing. Sure, talent helps and often wins out, but it also takes luck, opportunity, and usually a string of (often accidental) right moves to make or break someone. In my business it's writers. In the field of jazz, well - think of your favorite/best local musician who isn't known outside your town and compare him to someone with a record deal. Sure, there are the Rollins/Shorter giants out there, but not always that much seperates the local bar bands from the pros with record deals. Given the crap that fills best-seller lists, movie theaters, and airwaves, it is certainly true that there is often times not much that separates the "success stories" from the wannabes. Keep in mind the music/movies/books we may like, many others consider to be the "crap". Why I'm pretty sure the music/movies/books I dig are certainly the best to be had, for some reason that person that digs the "G" man, Tom Cruise movies and Nora Roberts books are thinking the same thing....but I'm sure they're incorrect!!! Quote
jazzbo Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 She would be shocked to read what we write. . . . Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 I wonder if there is any real difference between them musically, but McPhee will make millions being packaged as a pop princess. Somehow Monheit has gained a name as a jazz vocalist--why does she want to be one, when she could also be packaged as a pretty pop princess, and would probably be more comfortable musically singing light pop music. Fame and success in the Arts is a fickle thing. Sure, talent helps and often wins out, but it also takes luck, opportunity, and usually a string of (often accidental) right moves to make or break someone. In my business it's writers. In the field of jazz, well - think of your favorite/best local musician who isn't known outside your town and compare him to someone with a record deal. Sure, there are the Rollins/Shorter giants out there, but not always that much seperates the local bar bands from the pros with record deals. Given the crap that fills best-seller lists, movie theaters, and airwaves, it is certainly true that there is often times not much that separates the "success stories" from the wannabes. jeanie bryson comes to mind....... Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 Who ia Katharine McPhee? Seriously. I was thinking the same thing. I'd never heard of her - not once - until I'd read the title of this thread. Monheit -- yeah, I've heard of her. Even heard a few tunes too, somewhere along the way. Not my cup of tea, but I'm certainly aware of her. McPhee - I've got no idea. -_- Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 Who ia Katharine McPhee? Seriously. a google search tells me we dont waste our lives watching AMERICAN IDYLL. god, i hope she isnt related to joe. Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 Who ia Katharine McPhee? Seriously. a google search tells me we dont waste our lives watching AMERICAN IDYLL. god, i hope she isnt related to joe. the oldest josephine baker would blow to smithereens the hottest "idol" Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 A google image search of her name keeps coming up with this guy too... Are they a package deal?? Are they somehow joined at the hip?? See, here's more... Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 A google image search of her name keeps coming up with this guy too... Are they a package deal?? Are they somehow joined at the hip?? See, here's more... we are the putty of the great pr bs machines. Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 A google image search of her name keeps coming up with this guy too... Are they a package deal?? Are they somehow joined at the hip?? See, here's more... we are the putty of the great pr bs machines. just glad that aint joe Quote
jazzbo Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 That's Taylor Hicks, who bested Katharine to be the American Idol. I actually lke Taylor Hicks. He has Ray Charles deep down in him. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted May 26, 2006 Author Report Posted May 26, 2006 Who ia Katharine McPhee? Seriously. I watched American Idol this month. because my 10 year old daughter had to watch it or be an outcast at school. It is the main topic of conversation among school kids. Katharine McPhee finished second. Her specialty is singing slow, lovely versions of "Somewhere Over The Rainbow". She lost to Taylor Hicks, the gray haired guy in the photos on this thread. He's a white boy blues/soul singer, who plays harmonica with a blues band when he is not busy becoming the most famous man in the world. American Idol attracted Stevie Wonder, Prince and other established artists this year, and the song selection and performances have become more varied and of higher quality, from what I can gather. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted May 26, 2006 Author Report Posted May 26, 2006 She would be shocked to read what we write. . . . Somehow I doubt that she would care much about what we write. Quote
RDK Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 we are the putty of the great pr bs machines. We are also, apparently, the stereotypically elitist jazz fan... Quote
JSngry Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 Well, I don't think I'm in any way a stereotypical eltitist jazz fan, but I gotta tell ya', the Idol show don't do much for me at all. Different strokes, and all that, but like a friend of mine once said when I responded to his dissing of the Elvis Sun sides as music for ignorant hillbillies by saying that it was soulful music for ignorant hillbillies, "Fine. Let them have it then!" Quote
Hot Ptah Posted May 26, 2006 Author Report Posted May 26, 2006 Well, I don't think I'm in any way a stereotypical eltitist jazz fan, but I gotta tell ya', the Idol show don't do much for me at all. Different strokes, and all that, but like a friend of mine once said when I responded to his dissing of the Elvis Sun sides as music for ignorant hillbillies by saying that it was soulful music for ignorant hillbillies, "Fine. Let them have it then!" Just to clarify--the show does little for me either. It is an odd quirk that one of the finalists sang an American popular songbook standard in a reasonably competent fashion. In fact, I am now sure that I am old, because the loud, flashy, overhyped presentation of the show was a big turnoff for me, and I suspect that it is appealing to the core American Idol audience. Quote
RDK Posted May 27, 2006 Report Posted May 27, 2006 The show has its value if only because "Moody's Mood For Love" is now one of the Top 100 downloads on iTunes... Quote
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