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Fascinating. I'm only spinning through these tracks very quickly (needle drops, if you will) -- but this sounds like material well worth revisiting - and revisit it I will. Thanks for posting this!!

-- Rooster T.

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Fascinating. I'm only spinning through these tracks very quickly (needle drops, if you will) -- but this sounds like material well worth revisiting - and revisit it I will. Thanks for posting this!!

-- Rooster T.

Sangrey stirred up some interest in this recording here.

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On the original LP there were breaks between songs that had an announcer introducing each tune. Any audiable applause or sounds were added in the studio to create the live feel. The almost apologetic tone of the announcer and the uneven mixing of his vocal level create a horrible framework for an otherwise highly innovative piece of avant garde jazz history.

(All of the announcer intros have been removed from the album here)

Other than the opening introduction, all those edited out announcements are by Daley his ownself. :blink:

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I used to have this RCA LP at one point. I don't know what happened to it...

Ditto. Actually I think it was sold when I had John Norris auction off the Lps I'd left in Toronto.

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Likewise. I vaguely recall being at the apartment of one member of trio, almost certainly Hal Russell's, when the finished album was first available to be listened to. Hal, his wife, Russell Thorne, and Thorne's then girlfriend Shelley Litt (a remarkable jazz singer-pianist) -- she the dedicate of TRhorne's "Knell (For Shel)" -- were the others present, again IIRC. I'm sure Joe Daley wasn't there. I also remember that the mood there that day was not a particularly happy one -- which mostly had to do with feelings about the record and about Daley on the part of Russell and Thorne (I remember mockery of Daley's stagey fake-real tune announcements), but there were a lot of other not very happy things going on as well. A tough crowd.

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On the original LP there were breaks between songs that had an announcer introducing each tune. Any audiable applause or sounds were added in the studio to create the live feel. The almost apologetic tone of the announcer and the uneven mixing of his vocal level create a horrible framework for an otherwise highly innovative piece of avant garde jazz history.

(All of the announcer intros have been removed from the album here)

Other than the opening introduction, all those edited out announcements are by Daley his ownself. :blink:

I believe 3 titles (Ode to Blackie, One Note and Ramblin') are from Newport and the other 3 were studio recordings. They did other titles in the studio. Hal insisted they were omitted because Joe thought they were too out and would hurt the sales of the record.

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Did a bit of research and can provide the following:

-The Joe Daley Trio at Newport '63- : Joe Daley (ts) Russell Thorne (b) Hal Russell (d)

New York, June 3, 1963

PPA1-5137 Helicon No. 2 (unissued) Vic

PPA1-5138 Ballad Vic LPM/LPS2673, RCA (E)RD/SP7606

PPA1-5141 Knell - , -

PPA1-5142 Dexterity - , -

PPA1-5144 Helicon No. 1 (unissued)

PPA1-5145 The clown from Naptown -

Live, Newport Jazz Festival, R.I., July 5, 1963

PPA5-5407 Ode to Blackie Vic LPM/LPS2763, RCA (E)RD/SP7606

PPA5-5408 One note - , -

PPA5-5409 Ramblin' - , -

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I used to have this RCA LP at one point. I don't know what happened to it...

Maybe it was your copy I found at Laurie's bookstore on 9th and Nicollet Mall.

Or it may have been mine. I was once in an e-mail correspondence with a guy in Austria about a Hannibal Marvin Peterson Disography he was doing and he told me he'd just bought a Sonny Rollins Lp with my name

written on it.

  • 1 year later...
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Up to note that Lazaro's link above still works — thought new members might be interested in this interesting record.

Listening to the album right now.

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I used to have this RCA LP at one point. I don't know what happened to it...

Maybe it was your copy I found at Laurie's bookstore on 9th and Nicollet Mall.

I wonder what Jim was charging on it? He was way overpriced on a lot of things...

It very well could have been -- can't remember where I sold it.

Things are WAY overpriced there; run-of-the-mill OJCs will run upwards of $20.

Posted

I used to have this RCA LP at one point. I don't know what happened to it...

Maybe it was your copy I found at Laurie's bookstore on 9th and Nicollet Mall.

I wonder what Jim was charging on it? He was way overpriced on a lot of things...

It very well could have been -- can't remember where I sold it.

Things are WAY overpriced there; run-of-the-mill OJCs will run upwards of $20.

From what I recall I paid $5 for it at least ten years ago.

Posted

Up to note that Lazaro's link above still works — thought new members might be interested in this interesting record.

Listening to the album right now.

Thanks for bringing this back up!

Posted

I used to have this RCA LP at one point. I don't know what happened to it...

Maybe it was your copy I found at Laurie's bookstore on 9th and Nicollet Mall.

I wonder what Jim was charging on it? He was way overpriced on a lot of things...

It very well could have been -- can't remember where I sold it.

Things are WAY overpriced there; run-of-the-mill OJCs will run upwards of $20.

From what I recall I paid $5 for it at least ten years ago.

I have only been here for about 8, so it must have been a different copy. :)

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