couw Posted June 14, 2006 Report Posted June 14, 2006 Some short samples of the Ilori album can be found here. Don't expect "jazz", but rather African Highlife music. Lots of complicated rhythms with a "primitive" sound. You get people dancing around bending limbs you never knew existed and some nostalgic ballads. I like it. Quote
Parkertown Posted June 14, 2006 Report Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) Thanks couw-boy! I like it. I was kinda upset that the ropeadope t-shirt doesn't have the correct colors as the original cover... But not REAL upset...just a little. heh... Edited June 14, 2006 by Parkertown Quote
Edlock8718 Posted June 15, 2006 Report Posted June 15, 2006 Some short samples of the Ilori album can be found here. Don't expect "jazz", but rather African Highlife music. Lots of complicated rhythms with a "primitive" sound. You get people dancing around bending limbs you never knew existed and some nostalgic ballads. I like it. Thanks for the samples, couw. I like it as well, and I didn't expect to hear traditional jazz. I do like the more African-flavored stuff of guys like Yusef Lateef, and so I was hoping for more of the same, even if it is MUCH more of the same... And sorry, Chuck, I knew "orchestral" was a bad word the moment I typed it - and I expected somebody here to knock me for it. I've had poor first reactions to large ensembles like this before, though, and then they've grown on me, so I won't be giving up on it. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted June 15, 2006 Report Posted June 15, 2006 And sorry, Chuck, I knew "orchestral" was a bad word the moment I typed it - and I expected somebody here to knock me for it. I've had poor first reactions to large ensembles like this before, though, and then they've grown on me, so I won't be giving up on it. Got no problem with orchestral................commercial was the word. Quote
mikeweil Posted June 15, 2006 Report Posted June 15, 2006 amazon.de has them at € 9,99 each, for preorder with a release date of June 26. The Blue Note website states they found the 3-track tapes of the 2nd Gil Evans LP for improved sound and unedited versions of two tracks - enough reason to get this. Quote
jazzbo Posted June 15, 2006 Report Posted June 15, 2006 Oh yeah! (I haven't gotten the new versions yet, have old ones). Both are great, but . . . Cannon puts that one over the edge for me. More and I more I love that guy. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted June 15, 2006 Report Posted June 15, 2006 And.....Cannon is the big drag for me on this session (I've had it since '63). If the solos were split between the alto player, Coles, Knepper, etc it would have been a superb record. Quote
king ubu Posted June 16, 2006 Report Posted June 16, 2006 Amazon.de says they are copycrap, not CDs! Quote
David Ayers Posted June 16, 2006 Report Posted June 16, 2006 Amazon.de says they are copycrap, not CDs! The ones on sale in the UK are European manufactured and are NOT repeat NOT cc-ed. I can't promise, but I suspect amazon.de is in error. Don't know if you ever bought a copycrap version of anything. I did (Boston Blow-Up). It won't play in the car, it has sometimes skipped in the main CD player - but if I hold down 'Escape' when I put it in the PC it both plays and copies adequately. I think they concluded that CC doesn't work, and I suspect that retailers complained about handling returns and damged sales. I also suspect that some people (not me of course) might regard rip-off cc editions as fair game for file sharing. Like I say, I'm not one. Quote
king ubu Posted June 16, 2006 Report Posted June 16, 2006 Amazon.de says they are copycrap, not CDs! The ones on sale in the UK are European manufactured and are NOT repeat NOT cc-ed. I can't promise, but I suspect amazon.de is in error. Let's hope you're right! I have virtually stopped buying BNs new releases. Picked up 4 or 5 cc versions but only on sale prizes (10€ or less, approximately). ... I think they concluded that CC doesn't work, and I suspect that retailers complained about handling returns and damged sales. I also suspect that some people (not me of course) might regard rip-off cc editions as fair game for file sharing. Like I say, I'm not one. Of course they wouldn't tell us about their conclusions or even apologize or admit their strategy was bogus... but again, let's hope you're right! Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted June 16, 2006 Author Report Posted June 16, 2006 I was told by Michael Cuscuna that they had stopped adding copy protection to EU releases. When I told him that amazon.de is saying that these latest Conns do have CC, he was very surprised. I think that the amazon listing may be in error. Quote
Kyo Posted June 16, 2006 Report Posted June 16, 2006 I was told by Michael Cuscuna that they had stopped adding copy protection to EU releases. When I told him that amazon.de is saying that these latest Conns do have CC, he was very surprised. I think that the amazon listing may be in error. Quite possible that it's a mistake on behalf of Amazon. I've boycotted pretty much every Blue Note CD with copy protection so far and I'm extremely glad that I'll be able to get those CDs for the usual low European prices in the future instead of having to import every single one. Quote
king ubu Posted June 17, 2006 Report Posted June 17, 2006 I was told by Michael Cuscuna that they had stopped adding copy protection to EU releases. When I told him that amazon.de is saying that these latest Conns do have CC, he was very surprised. I think that the amazon listing may be in error. Thanks, Kevin! I'm starting to believe it, then! Great!!! Quote
David Ayers Posted June 17, 2006 Report Posted June 17, 2006 I was told by Michael Cuscuna that they had stopped adding copy protection to EU releases. When I told him that amazon.de is saying that these latest Conns do have CC, he was very surprised. I think that the amazon listing may be in error. Thanks, Kevin! I'm starting to believe it, then! Great!!! Hey! Why didn't you believe ME... ? Quote
Clunky Posted June 17, 2006 Report Posted June 17, 2006 It's a pity that the first three tracks from Hill's Pax are from 2nd generation masters. Perfectly listenable but sound much less good when compared to the other tracks. Presumably the first gen tapes are lost. Not a reason to avoid this issue as it's first rate AH Quote
andybleaden Posted June 19, 2006 Report Posted June 19, 2006 who is Lou Blackburn, any relation of Tony Blackburn ??? Jazztastic! Quote
king ubu Posted June 19, 2006 Report Posted June 19, 2006 I was told by Michael Cuscuna that they had stopped adding copy protection to EU releases. When I told him that amazon.de is saying that these latest Conns do have CC, he was very surprised. I think that the amazon listing may be in error. Thanks, Kevin! I'm starting to believe it, then! Great!!! Hey! Why didn't you believe ME... ? sorry, I wasn't aware that you had seen the discs in real... gets clear from re-reading your post, though! Quote
Ken Dryden Posted June 19, 2006 Report Posted June 19, 2006 Of the new batch, Lou Blackburn's The Complete Imperial Sessions is the one that got my attention. Great stuff with Freddie Hill on trumpet and Horace Tapscott on piano. Quote
mikeweil Posted July 2, 2006 Report Posted July 2, 2006 Got the Gil Evans on Saturday - the sound, even on the first album, is considerably better than the previous US CDs. No copy protection. Quote
Clunky Posted July 3, 2006 Report Posted July 3, 2006 Got the Gil Evans on Saturday - the sound, even on the first album, is considerably better than the previous US CDs. No copy protection. I've not heard this session before but was very pleased with the sound especially as reports posted here seemed to suggest that the master tapes were in very poor condition. Cannoball's fine too but the session with Johnny Coles is better still. Quote
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