Templejazz Posted July 24, 2003 Report Posted July 24, 2003 Can anybody comment on this album? It's shown in the new BN Album Cover Art Book as being a Japanese-only released album. Is this material available anywhere else? Thanks in advance! Quote
Eric Posted July 24, 2003 Report Posted July 24, 2003 It is included on the OOP Blakey Mosaic set. Eric Quote
Templejazz Posted July 24, 2003 Author Report Posted July 24, 2003 Is it something worthy of reissue? Quote
sidewinder Posted July 24, 2003 Report Posted July 24, 2003 (edited) Several of the tracks from the King GXF 3060 'Pisces' LP are on the domestic CD issue of 'The Freedom Rider' as additional tracks. These are 'Uptight', 'Pisces' and 'Blue Ching'. The Mosaic 'Complete 1960 Messengers Blue Note' set also includes these plus 'United' and 'Ping Pong'. The last two are also on the domestic CD of 'Roots and Herbs' as additional tracks. All great tracks by the way, well up to the standard set throughout the mighty fine Blakey Mosaic .. B) Edited July 24, 2003 by sidewinder Quote
Templejazz Posted July 24, 2003 Author Report Posted July 24, 2003 Ahhah, thanks! Then there isn't really anything I don't have already. Quote
Shrdlu Posted July 24, 2003 Report Posted July 24, 2003 There was one more track, "It's A Long Way Down", on the "Pisces" LP. That track is from the sessions that produced "Indestructible", and was included on the U.S. CD of that album (and will no doubt be on the upcoming reissue in the Ron Van Gelder series - i.e. I can't remember which series it's in). It isn't much of a track - the "Indestructible" LP collection is all you need, and what a collection it is! I have something just as good as the LP: the TOCJ . Quote
sidewinder Posted July 24, 2003 Report Posted July 24, 2003 (edited) Ah! - I thought there might have been one more track to make it a nice round '6'. This one isn't listed in the Mosaic booklet, of course. I also have the 'Indistructible' LP and not the CD and agree that it is a killer !! 'Ron Van Gelder' - lots of treble with plenty of compression? Edited July 24, 2003 by sidewinder Quote
Swinging Swede Posted July 24, 2003 Report Posted July 24, 2003 Does anyone know the original track order on this LP? AMG has a track listing, but since it follows the recording order it's possible that it isn't identical to how the LP was sequenced. Quote
Shrdlu Posted July 24, 2003 Report Posted July 24, 2003 Having heard so much about this LP over the years, I wonder if anyone has ever actually seen a copy. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted July 25, 2003 Report Posted July 25, 2003 I used to have a copy. Sold it for "big bucks". Quote
sidewinder Posted July 25, 2003 Report Posted July 25, 2003 (edited) I used to have a copy. Sold it for "big bucks". Scanning through an old copy of Jazz Journal today (circa 1980) I noticed that then-purveyors of Jap vinyl Mole Jazz were listing Pisces 'on special' at £6.25, along with other King goodies like 'Oblique', 'Clubhouse', 'Minor Revelation' and 'Matador' ... Now where's my time machine ? Edited July 25, 2003 by sidewinder Quote
JohnS Posted July 25, 2003 Report Posted July 25, 2003 I still have my King Records copy of "Pisces". The track order is Side 1 United/Ping Pong/Pisces Side 2 Uptight/Blue Ching/It's a Long Way Down Quote
bertrand Posted July 25, 2003 Report Posted July 25, 2003 The authorship of 'Blue Ching' is in question. It sounds like a Bobby Timmons tune, but it appears on the legendary rejected Kenny Dorham BN session (the one with Grant Green), so it may be a Dorham tune. Bertrand. Quote
shrugs Posted July 26, 2003 Report Posted July 26, 2003 I used to have a copy. Sold it for "big bucks". Scanning through an old copy of Jazz Journal today (circa 1980) I noticed that then-purveyors of Jap vinyl Mole Jazz were listing Pisces 'on special' at £6.25, along with other King goodies like 'Oblique', 'Clubhouse', 'Minor Revelation' and 'Matador' ... Now where's my time machine ? I hear that. Look through a Cadence from that era. All the FMP's for chump change. Quote
brownie Posted July 26, 2003 Report Posted July 26, 2003 Scanning through an old copy of Jazz Journal today (circa 1980) I noticed that then-purveyors of Jap vinyl Mole Jazz were listing Pisces 'on special' at £6.25, along with other King goodies like 'Oblique', 'Clubhouse', 'Minor Revelation' and 'Matador' ... Now where's my time machine ? I have that 'Pisces' King album too. A good Messengers album. The Ping Pong version is different from the one that was included in the 'Roots and Herbs' album. The Wayne Shorter solo in the 'Pisces' Ping Pong version is worth the admission price. A stunning solo where Shorter lays it out! That 'Pisces' album was part of the treasures that Michael Cuscuna discovered when he started exploring the BN vaults. It was issued in 1979/1980. Just for nostalgia freaks, here is the list of albums that King Japan published at the same time: Sonny Clark 'Blues in the Night', Kenny Burrell 'K.B. Blues', Grant Green 'Matador', Wayne Shorter 'The Soothsayer', Dexter Gordon 'Clubhouse', Sonny Clark 'My Conception', Kenny Burrell 'Freedom', Grant Green 'Gooden's Corner', Wayne Shorter 'The Collector', Bobby Hutcherson 'Oblique', Jackie McLean 'Tippin' the Scales', Bennie Green 'Minor Revelation',Curtis Fuller 'Two Bones', Grant Green 'Oleo', Hank Mobley 'Poppin'' Jackie McLean/Tina Brooks 'Street Singer', Lou Donaldson 'Sweet Slumber' Those King LPs had superb mastering. I have most of them and their pre-digital sound is gorgeous. When I see many board members get all heated up about the current forthcoming releases from BN, I keep smiling and stay in my corner. And then I remember how I was excited when those Kings appeared. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted July 26, 2003 Report Posted July 26, 2003 (edited) If only Andrew Hill's lone "King" issue had seen the light of day... I think it was to be called "Chained", a still-as-yet-unreleased trio date from about 1967. (Don't have my discography handy at the moment.) Edited July 26, 2003 by Rooster_Ties Quote
JohnS Posted July 26, 2003 Report Posted July 26, 2003 (edited) QUOTE (brownie @ Jul 26 2003, 06:22 AM) Those King LPs had superb mastering. I have most of them and their pre-digital sound is gorgeous. When I see many board members get all heated up about the current forthcoming releases from BN, I keep smiling and stay in my corner. And then I remember how I was excited when those Kings appeared. I agree, I still have most of my King issues. I still recall the excitement when I got those and played them for the first time. Edited July 26, 2003 by JohnS Quote
Peter Johnson Posted July 26, 2003 Report Posted July 26, 2003 If only....if only.... Brownie, I'm glad some (one?) of us are so blessed! Now where do you live? Quote
brownie Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 If only....if only.... Brownie, I'm glad some (one?) of us are so blessed! Now where do you live? Paris, in La Belle France. The place where I live is burglar-proof (sort of!!) Quote
Swinging Swede Posted July 29, 2003 Report Posted July 29, 2003 I still have my King Records copy of "Pisces". The track order is Side 1 United/Ping Pong/Pisces Side 2 Uptight/Blue Ching/It's a Long Way Down Many thanks, John! AMG has track 4 and 5 reversed. I like to know the original album configurations. While we're at it, does anyone know the LP track order on Jimmy Smith's Special Guests? AMG has this listing: 1. 'S Wonderful 2. The Blue Room 3. Day In - Day Out 4. Smith Walk 5. Lonesome Road but according to discographies the track Organic Greeneries was also part of this album. Quote
Jim R Posted July 29, 2003 Report Posted July 29, 2003 Just for nostalgia freaks, here is the list of albums that King Japan published at the same time: Sonny Clark 'Blues in the Night', Kenny Burrell 'K.B. Blues', Grant Green 'Matador', Wayne Shorter 'The Soothsayer', Dexter Gordon 'Clubhouse', Sonny Clark 'My Conception', Kenny Burrell 'Freedom', Grant Green 'Gooden's Corner', Wayne Shorter 'The Collector', Bobby Hutcherson 'Oblique', Jackie McLean 'Tippin' the Scales', Bennie Green 'Minor Revelation',Curtis Fuller 'Two Bones', Grant Green 'Oleo', Hank Mobley 'Poppin'' Jackie McLean/Tina Brooks 'Street Singer', Lou Donaldson 'Sweet Slumber' I recalled a few others that I bought (and still have), such as Grant Green's "Remembering". Coincidentally, I stumbled onto a numerical list today: GXF 3051Â Blues in the Night / Sonny Clark * GXF 3052Â K.B. Blues / Kenny Burrell * GXF 3053Â Matador / Grant Green * GXF 3054Â The Soothsayer / Wayne Shorter * GXF 3055Â Clubhouse / Dexter Gordon * GXF 3056Â My Conception / Sonny Clark * GXF 3057Â Freedom / Kenny Burrell * GXF 3058Â Gooden's Corner / Grant Green * GXF 3059Â The Collector / Wayne Shorter * GXF 3060Â Pisces / Art Blakey * GXF 3061Â Oblique / Bobby Hutcherson * GXF 3062Â Tippin' the Scales / Jackie McLean * GXF 3063Â Minor Revelation / Bennie Green * GXF 3064Â Two Bones / Curtis Fuller * GXF 3065Â Oleo / Grant Green * GXF 3066Â Poppin' / Hank Mobley * GXF 3067Â Street Singer / Jackie McLean, Tina Brooks * GXF 3068Â Sweet Slumber / Lou Donaldson * GXF 3069Â The Art of the Trio / Sonny Clark * GXF 3070Â Swingin' / Kenny Burrell * GXF 3071Â Remembering / Grant Green * GXF 3072Â Minor Move / Tina Brooks * GXF 3073Â Inner Glow / Bobby Hutcherson Quote
Jim R Posted July 29, 2003 Report Posted July 29, 2003 (edited) While we're at it, does anyone know the LP track order on Jimmy Smith's Special Guests? AMG has this listing: 1.  'S Wonderful 2.  The Blue Room 3.  Day In - Day Out 4.  Smith Walk 5.  Lonesome Road but according to discographies the track Organic Greeneries was also part of this album. Not sure on the track order, but here's a discog I found on a Japanese site: BNJ 50101 Special Guests / Jimmy Smith Lee Morgan (tp) Jimmy Smith (org) Eddie McFadden (g) Donald Bailey (d) Manhattan Towers, NYC, August 25, 1957 * 'S Wonderful Curtis Fuller (tb) Jimmy Smith (org) Donald Bailey (d) * Blue Room Stanley Turrentine (ts) Jimmy Smith (org) Quentin Warren (g) Sam Jones ( B ) Donald Bailey (d) VGS, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, June 13, 1960 * Smith Walk, Lonesome Road Jimmy Smith (org) Grant Green (g) Donald Bailey (d) VGS, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, January 31, 1963 * Day in Day Out, Organic Greenery Edited July 29, 2003 by Jim R Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted July 29, 2003 Report Posted July 29, 2003 Back in the old days Cuscuna put me on the King promo list so every couple of months I got a "care package" of Japanese BN lps. Those were the days. Quote
Jim R Posted July 29, 2003 Report Posted July 29, 2003 Back in the old days Cuscuna put me on the King promo list so every couple of months I got a "care package" of Japanese BN lps. You bastard. It took me about two years to find a copy of "Gooden's Corner"! Quote
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