Guest youmustbe Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 It will be inetersting how this sells, what with the implosion of the record biz...probbaly fine, since Miles is Miles. Quote
Guest youmustbe Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 And oh yes, Miles 80's period, I have closet full of tapes, mostly mine, is boring, except the 85 band which is as good as anything Miles did... his lip came back by 85...he plays so much!...I was playing an 85 DC gig that I taped, for Sco and he said he didn't realize it was THAT GOOD! Yes it was! 86 had some good gigs, but by then Miles couldn't play as much. When I booked him in 1991, he could hardly play. If your idea is to listen to long solos by Foley, well, it was what it was because Miles was/is Miles and that's why anything of his that is put out will be bought. Sorry, about that, you self produced guys and gals! BTW Isn't it wonderful that Jazz musicians are producing their own records and don't have to listen to know nothing producers who don't understand their artistic yearnings, guys like Avakian, Macero, Lion, Keepnews and Taylor? Boy, those guys really held the 'artists' back, didn't they? Quote
dave9199 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 The box should be called Beyond The Corner. Hey, check it out, they're using my title!!! I'm gonna sue Vincent Walburn for royalties! Um, this may push the release date back a bit.... Quote
dave9199 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 Do you think they'll ever reissue a domestic remaster of the two 1975 live albums? Quote
rockefeller center Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 The box should be called Beyond The Corner. Hey, check it out, they're using my title!!! I'm gonna sue Vincent Walburn for royalties! Um, this may push the release date back a bit.... Quote
WD45 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 Do you think they'll ever reissue a domestic remaster of the two 1975 live albums? I hope that they do, as I am waiting... Quote
Jay Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 Looks fabulous - time for me to put in my traditional cap-in-hand wish to Mosaic HQ for a vinyl set of this collection. Don't hold your breath. They didn't do one for the Cellar Door Sessions. Quote
GregK Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 You know the sound will be improved. Wow. I hope it comes out. I have my doubts. But then I would, seeing the email from Belden that I did. But man. . . I want it. I remember that it took about two or three years from when I saw the track listing for the Cellar Door set and when it came out. Hope that doesn't happen this go round. Wasn't that announced in 2000? It took 5 years for that box to appear Quote
jazzbo Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) Right. I think I saw the track list in 2004 (from Belden, but I was not allowed to distribute) . . . Two years or so before the box appeared. Edited January 24, 2007 by jazzbo Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted January 25, 2007 Report Posted January 25, 2007 um whatwas the scandal surrounding the Cellar boxed set that went on internally @ sony?> Quote
B. Clugston Posted February 2, 2007 Report Posted February 2, 2007 From Paul Tingen's site miles-beyond.com: "The On The Corner boxed set appears on schedule for a release in the fall of this year." Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted February 2, 2007 Report Posted February 2, 2007 However long it takes, I'll buy it. May have to wait for retirement to have time to fully digest... Quote
Guest youmustbe Posted February 2, 2007 Report Posted February 2, 2007 The 'Scandal' was simply that vVnce hated Adam Holzman who produced the record and wanted his name removed from box, from toilet walls, from existance... AsI have posted elsewhere, Adam took me to Sony studios many years ago, the first time he was allowed to hear the tapes...so I was there at the beginning! Me, adam and Debra Parkinson, the enginner...not only a terrific mastering enginner but beautiful too!!! A wonderful Sunday afternoon! The Cellar Door box isn't anything special. Keith overplays...really kinda boring. The true On The Corner band in 72, early 73, is the one, with the keyboatd player....sounds wonderfully fucked up! Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted February 2, 2007 Report Posted February 2, 2007 So, it's Holzman not Beldon that Vince hates? Interesting. Can't agree about the Cellar Door material being uninteresting. Did you hear anything more than what was issued? To me and tens of thousands of others evrything Miles did was interesting, that's why there willbe a Beyond theCorner box...someday. Quote
B. Clugston Posted February 2, 2007 Report Posted February 2, 2007 So, it's Holzman not Beldon that Vince hates? Interesting. Can't agree about the Cellar Door material being uninteresting. Did you hear anything more than what was issued? To me and tens of thousands of others evrything Miles did was interesting, that's why there willbe a Beyond theCorner box...someday. Reading the lines (and between them), I get the impression Vince didn’t like the mentions in Paul Tingen’s Miles Beyond of him getting canned by his uncle. Holzman was a bandmate at the time and is a major source in the book, so Vince probably blames Holzman. Petty stuff. It’s a shame a dispute between two minor figures from late in Miles’ career held things up. And I think the Cellar Door material is fantastic. Quote
Guy Berger Posted February 2, 2007 Report Posted February 2, 2007 (edited) The Cellar Door box isn't anything special. Keith overplays...really kinda boring. The true On The Corner band in 72, early 73, is the one, with the keyboatd player....sounds wonderfully fucked up! I disagree. The Cellar Door band is fantastic. The On the Corner band had its moments but Miles definitely knew what he was doing when he revamped it into the Dark Magus-Pangaea-Agharta lineup. Guy Edited February 3, 2007 by Guy Quote
king ubu Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 yup yup - cellar door is terrific material! Quote
dave9199 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 If Vince wants to hold up a box of Miles's 80's Columbia stuff from being released, I am in his corner! Quote
JSngry Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 (edited) If Vince wants to hold up a box of Miles's 80's Columbia stuff from being released, I am in his corner! I dunno man, Star People, Decoy, & Aura all get it done rather nicely, I think. Edited February 3, 2007 by JSngry Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 If Vince wants to hold up a box of Miles's 80's Columbia stuff from being released, I am in his corner! I dunno man, Star People, Decoy, & Aura all get it done rather nicely, I think. And I kinda wanna hear those Rubber Band sessions (I think that's what they were called), in full, including the material that later went into the Doo-Bop soup. Quote
dave9199 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 Actually my post is based on total ignorance; I've never heard any of his post 1975 stuff, but so far have felt no interest in it wanting to hear it. It's always possible, and very much in my character, that I would want to hear it. I'm sure now I'll go & listen to clips at amazon. Quote
JSngry Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 If nothing else, try Aura. It's a breed apart. Quote
7/4 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 Aura is a unique one, worth hearing. Quote
Guy Berger Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 If nothing else, try Aura. It's a breed apart. I'm only slightly familiar with this period of Miles's career, but "informed sources" tell me that the best stuff was live. Hence, if you are interested (and loaded) you should skip the studio recordings and go for the Montreux box. Guy Quote
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