Dmitry Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 Saw this one locally for $35. 7 cds, I believe. What's your assessment of the set? Quote
medjuck Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 Never heard the cds but saw them live at the Hollywood Bowl and Torme was still in great voice during this period. Quote
Jim R Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 Saw this one locally for $35. 7 cds, I believe. What's your assessment of the set? I saw that set once (used) for about the same price. I was tempted, but I didn't pull the trigger. IMO, it might be too much of a good thing, in a way. Now please, don't anybody prove me wrong- I don't want to regret passing up such a great deal. Quote
JSngry Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 It's Torme! It's Shearing! It's Concord! Duh! Quote
Jim R Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 It's Torme! It's Shearing! It's Concord! Duh! DAMN! And I walked outta there with the Dick Wetmore box instead. Quote
Dmitry Posted February 17, 2006 Author Report Posted February 17, 2006 It's Torme! It's Shearing! It's Concord! Duh! Maybe it's the dumb ruski in me, but would you mind expanding a bit? Quote
jazzbo Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 The way I would take that statement is. . . if you know any Torme, Shearing, and the Concord label this set would be as you would expect it to be. . . . Me. . . I'd steer clear. Quote
Dmitry Posted February 17, 2006 Author Report Posted February 17, 2006 The way I would take that statement is. . . if you know any Torme, Shearing, and the Concord label this set would be as you would expect it to be. . . . Me. . . I'd steer clear. Thanks, Lon. I used to have a Torme at the fujitsu Jazz Festival Concorde cd that I just donated to the local library. Didn't do it for me...he plays decent drums though! Quote
JSngry Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 (edited) Sure, but keep in mind that this is just my opinion. Torme is somebody whose chops I have the highest respect for, but I don't care for the use to which he puts them. A few of the old things are ok, but that's it. By this stage of the game, he wore his "hipness" way too conspicuously for my comfort. Shearing is somebody who has never done it for me in any form or fashion. Again, great chops, very tasty within his realm, but NMCOT, as they say. One man's taste is another man's bland, I suppose. And Concord is a label that far more often than not has been for me the musical equivalent of the "flavor remover" that Woody Allen used to joke about his mother using on her cooking. The Land/Mitchell thing is the only Concord side that comes to mind that doesn't fit that description. Even the Neil Swainson side w/Woody Shaw & Joe Henderson sounds like it had some kind of emotional filter put on it somewhere. They just seem to "whiten up" most all their stuff somehow, and have from the git-go. Put it all together and... Again, that's just me. Edited February 17, 2006 by JSngry Quote
jazzbo Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 I like me some Concords. The Remlers are way cool. I'm enjoying some Tania Marias believe it or not. The Getz material is nice-o-matic. There's more. . . . But I hear what you're saying, believe me. Quote
jazzbo Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 I've never heard any Torme that I like better than the Bethlehem stuff! Quote
JSngry Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 I like me some Concords. The Remlers are way cool. I'm enjoying some Tania Marias believe it or not. The Getz material is nice-o-matic. There's more. . . . But I hear what you're saying, believe me. And I you. Quote
JSngry Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 I've never heard any Torme that I like better than the Bethlehem stuff! I've been hearing some cuts off that Swings Shubert Alley side on Music Choice's "Singers & Standards" channel, and I don't know if it's just that that's often what I put on to fall asleep to, but it seems like a really tasty piece of work. But too often (and for too long), Torme seems to me to have been the kind of guy who wore a tuxedo because he thought he deserved to wear one. And all that that implies. If you know what I mean. Quote
Jim R Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 I know what everybody means (that's why they call me Kreskin a lot ), but it occurs to me that I own a lot of Concord stuff. Much of it is guitar players (Burrell, Farlow, Bickert, etc), and much of it is the Maybeck material, but there are also some good titles by Art Farmer, Stan Getz, JJ (love his "Vivian" CD), etc. Anyway, my Concord mileage has been okay (but then I do have superior taste). Quote
JSngry Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 (edited) Point taken, but my POV is that almost everybody who's been good on Concord has been (or might well have been) even better somewhere else. Edited February 17, 2006 by JSngry Quote
Jim R Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 Point taken, but my POV is that almost everybody who's been good on Concord has been (or might well have been) even better somewhere else. Yeah, but I thought we all agreed we were going to be rabid, possessed, uncontrollably obsessive/compulsive jazz fanatics and buy everything in sight. Did I not get the memo here? Quote
JSngry Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 MEMO? Geez, I thought it was a genetic flaw. That's what I tell LTB, and she acts like she wants me to believe that she believes it, so let's forget all this "memo" nonsense RIGHT NOW, please! Quote
GA Russell Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 I've never heard any Torme that I like better than the Bethlehem stuff! I agree, but I have a copy of the Torme Verve compilation Finest Hour that I haven't heard yet. I believe that his Verve albums were often with Marty Paich as his Bethlehems were. Quote
Jim R Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 MEMO? Geez, I thought it was a genetic flaw. Now that you mention it... Quote
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