Chuck Nessa Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 I scrubbed Bubbles once. But her husband found out and I had to leave town in a hurry. Bitch took all my Charles Lloyd sides, too. You won at least twice on this deal. It would have been cooler if you left in a Corvette. Quote
JSngry Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 Maserati, my friend, Maserati. Dave Liebman tells the story of part of his "pre-player" apprenticeship/entry into the NYC jazz scene being driving Charles Lloyd around to buy a Maserati. Dues, baby, dues. Quote
jlhoots Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 The Water Is Wide & Canto are both worthwhile too (IMHO)> Quote
BFrank Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 For those who don't keep up with Mosaic, they just anounced a new "singles" program - single albums, that is. Coming in the first batch in April/May is: (MCD-1006) Charles Lloyd: Of Course, Of Course This album was recorded in May 1964 and March 1965, after Charles had left the Chico Hamilton fold, so these sessions were a welcome reunion for Gabor Szabo and him. The recording group was completed by another extraordinarily empathetic team, Ron Carter and Tony Williams. Bringing two of the most creative pairings in jazz together makes for a hell of a quartet. The album is as cohesive as it is varied. For this disc, the album was newly remixed from the original four-track tapes and includes three bonus tracks approved by the artist. Quote
Guy Berger Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 Forest Flower, which was a bona fide hit (and not a bad album either, although Dream Weaver is much meatier, I think) I totally agree -- out of the quartet albums w/Jarrett & DeJohnette, I think Dream Weaver is the best. Just really good 60s jazz that covers all the bases, soul jazz to free. As far as the more recent stuff on ECM, Jumping the Creek is quite good but there are several better ones. The Water Is Wide is a really nice ballads album; Voice in the Night and All My Relations are more up-tempo, straight-ahead in nature; and Canto (my favorite) has this really nice introverted vibe. Guy Quote
Guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 for what years specifically was lloyd inactive in music? what is the date of his last album in the 70s, + his 1st in the 80s? Why did he pick real estate as a 2nd carreer option? did he still practice the horn, or did he give up music alltogether during those years? Quote
Guest akanalog Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 i have some 70s LPs which are ok. some good players on them, like sonship, who i wish there was more of out there. i think one of them might have the beach boys doing some harmonies? Quote
Guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Posted February 18, 2006 are you sure the beach boys sang on a LLOYD lp, beacuse i know for sure around '76 lloyd was in the horn section on the BB's LOVE YOU lp.... Quote
JSngry Posted February 18, 2006 Report Posted February 18, 2006 http://www.mjckeh.demon.co.uk/jc/cl-det.htm Quote
BFrank Posted February 18, 2006 Report Posted February 18, 2006 WAVES Charles Lloyd California: Prob. early to mid 1972 Charles Lloyd (ts); Gabor Szabo (g); Wolfgang Melz (b); Woodrow Theus II (d); Mayuto (aka Mailto Correa) (perc). a. Harvest (Charles Lloyd) - 9:05 same, except Charles Lloyd (f). b. Majorca (Charles Lloyd) - 6:09 Charles Lloyd (ts,vcl); Gabor Szabo; Roger McGuinn (g); Wolfgang Melz (el-b); Woodrow Theus II (d,per); Mayuto (aka Mailto Correa) (cga,perc); Mike Love, Carl Wilson, Al Jardine, Billy Hinsche, Pamela Polland (vcl). c. TM (Charles Lloyd) - 5:03 Quote
Harold_Z Posted February 18, 2006 Report Posted February 18, 2006 For what it's worth, Dan Morgenstern once told me that back in Lloyd's heyday, Dan had gone to Lloyd's hotel or motel room to do an interview with him. Lloyd answered the door and told Dan that it was too bad he hadn't come by a few minutes sooner because at that time he (i.e. Lloyd) had been levitating. Dan inquired further and determined to his satisfaction that Lloyd meant he said quite literally -- that it was not, for instance, a reference to the use of controlled or uncontrolled substances. In fact, as I recall, Dan asked Lloyd just how far off the ground he had been hovering, and Lloyd gave him a specific figure -- something fairly modest, I think, like six inches. Doesn't everybody ? Quote
johnagrandy Posted February 18, 2006 Report Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) For what it's worth, Dan Morgenstern once told me that back in Lloyd's heyday, Dan had gone to Lloyd's hotel or motel room to do an interview with him. Lloyd answered the door and told Dan that it was too bad he hadn't come by a few minutes sooner because at that time he (i.e. Lloyd) had been levitating. Dan inquired further and determined to his satisfaction that Lloyd meant he said quite literally -- that it was not, for instance, a reference to the use of controlled or uncontrolled substances. In fact, as I recall, Dan asked Lloyd just how far off the ground he had been hovering, and Lloyd gave him a specific figure -- something fairly modest, I think, like six inches. Lloyd should hang with David Blaine. They could tune their levitation distances to adjust for any differences in their body heights, thus improving communication. Edited February 18, 2006 by johnagrandy Quote
Guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Posted February 18, 2006 who can share more ab0ut what the lloyd/beach boys collaboration is like.......are there actual lyrics, or are they just singing harmonies, etc... Quote
JSngry Posted February 18, 2006 Report Posted February 18, 2006 Never been curious enough to find out myself. But they were both in the same TM clique, as I remember. Quote
BFrank Posted February 18, 2006 Report Posted February 18, 2006 It's been a long time since I listened to "Waves", but if I remember correctly the BB vocals are only a kind of chant, with variations on the letters "TM" on the tune of the same name. I had forgotten about Roger McGuinn's appearance, too. Quote
chris olivarez Posted February 19, 2006 Report Posted February 19, 2006 who can share more ab0ut what the lloyd/beach boys collaboration is like.......are there actual lyrics, or are they just singing harmonies, etc... I was sucessful in repressing this memory until you brought it up . Seriously,the only part I remember is something like "TM in the AM". As I recall there wasn't much substance to the lyrics unless you were a devotee of the movement. I pretty much avoided that one but listened to the work that he did on that album with Gabor Szabo minus any Beach Boys. Quote
JSngry Posted February 19, 2006 Report Posted February 19, 2006 Seems like a few people have heard Waves, but what about Warm Waters, the other album with a Lloyd/Beach Boys collaboration? Anybody ever heard it? Quote
JSngry Posted February 19, 2006 Report Posted February 19, 2006 Here's an online Lloyd discography: http://www.geocities.com/rstubenrauch/discography.htm Looks like he did more cameos on rock alnums in the early 70s than I was aware of. Quote
Stereojack Posted February 19, 2006 Report Posted February 19, 2006 I was sucessful in repressing this memory until you brought it up . Seriously,the only part I remember is something like "TM in the AM". As I recall there wasn't much substance to the lyrics unless you were a devotee of the movement. I pretty much avoided that one but listened to the work that he did on that album with Gabor Szabo minus any Beach Boys. As I recall, the lyrics went "TM (repeated a few times), In the AM, In the PM, Aaaahhh, Jai Guru Dev" I kinda liked the track at the time, being a fan of the Beach Boys' lush harmony. "Warm Waters" was severely marred, as I recall, by Lloyd's vocals, and the Beach Boys were less involved. Quote
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