Don Byas mystery tape inqury

[Guest]

found sealed for a quarter:

Don Byas - Anthropology

RED CARPET TAPES (Jazz series) Super Value!! (Generic cover with aformented title)

RC-5035

copywright 1982 first american records, inc/D&F enterprises Production

SIDE 1: (13:45)

ANTHROPOLOGY/DONT BLAME ME

2 (14:35)

MOONLIGHT IN VT/BILLIES BOUNCE

---its a quartet, high quality recording, don blazes through....but band info/rec. dates allude me!

[king ubu]

Sorry for being a bit short (not rude, I hope) on the other thread - but of late there's been quite some threads started in wrong forums, so...

Needless to say I can't help answering your question, otherwise I would have done so already!

[AllenLowe]

those are late recording from Europe - Copenhagen, I think - and were originally on Black Lion but have been reissued in a lot of places -

[Chuck Nessa]

Don Byas (ts) Bent Axen (p) Niels-Henning Ørsted Pedersen (b) William Schiöpffe (d)

Live, "Jazzhus Montmartre", Copenhagen, January 13-14, 1963

[brownie]

Several titles from those Montmartre evenings originally came out on the Danish Debut label.

Latest legitimate incarnation are on the Black Lion 24-bit remastered editions.

The Black Lion 'A Night in Tunisia' CD has several of the titles with Byas in splendid form throughout plus excellent sound!

[AllenLowe]

interesting period for Byas - he was a bit bitter at not having gotten credit for "modern" developments, and for his influence on people like Coltrane and so trying to play in a more "contemporary" way - there is a real strain in his playing here, as he works hard to sound "boppish," as his time is not quite right, though his ideas are brilliant - I remember seeing him, about this time, on Public TV (he had come back to the states to appear at Newport, I think) - I would love to see that show again, don't know if it still exists.

[EKE BBB]

From a bit later (1968), this MPS disc (a favourite of mine, and not only because Tete Montoliu leads the rhythm section) shows a beautiful contrast between Webster and Byas´ styles:

[Guest]

great! thanks

[MartyJazz]

interesting period for Byas - he was a bit bitter at not having gotten credit for "modern" developments, and for his influence on people like Coltrane and so trying to play in a more "contemporary" way - there is a real strain in his playing here, as he works hard to sound "boppish," as his time is not quite right, though his ideas are brilliant - I remember seeing him, about this time, on Public TV (he had come back to the states to appear at Newport, I think) - I would love to see that show again, don't know if it still exists.

I have the audio of that TV show and I suspect that lots of other people have it by now as I seeded it (thanks to Dan Gould who transferred my open reel tape to CD-R) on one of the jazz vine forums this past year. Details are as follows:

"JUST JAZZ" TV broadcast, Chicago

c1971:

Don Byas, ts

Jodie Christian, p

Rufus Reid, b

Wilbur Campbell, d

1) unknown title

2) Tenderly

3) Autumn Leaves

4) Stella By Starlight

5) But Not For Me

Edited February 16, 2006 by MartyJazz

[marcello]

interesting period for Byas - he was a bit bitter at not having gotten credit for "modern" developments, and for his influence on people like Coltrane and so trying to play in a more "contemporary" way - there is a real strain in his playing here, as he works hard to sound "boppish," as his time is not quite right, though his ideas are brilliant - I remember seeing him, about this time, on Public TV (he had come back to the states to appear at Newport, I think) - I would love to see that show again, don't know if it still exists.

I have the audio of that TV show and I suspect that lots of other people have it by now as I seeded it (thanks to Dan Gould who transferred my open reel tape to CD-R) on one of the jazz vine forums this past year. Details are as follows:

"JUST JAZZ" TV broadcast, Chicago

c1971:

Don Byas, ts

Jodie Christian, p

Rufus Reid, b

Wilbur Campbell, d

1) unknown title

2) Tenderly

3) Autumn Leaves

4) Stella By Starlight

5) But Not For Me

Marty, I have this also but I have questions.

Is it 1970 or 71 (Chuck?)

What is the name of the first tune?

[Chuck Nessa]

1970.00

[AllenLowe]

is there any extant video of this? haven't checked youtube -

[Caravan]

is there any extant video of this? haven't checked youtube -

[Caravan]

is there any extant video of this? haven't checked youtube -

No, there isn't. The nearest is a clip from the Molde festival, Norway, August 1966, with Kenny Drew, NHØP, Alex Riel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwqLW7sgmF0

I'll Remember April (incomplete)

[JSngry]

This is from 1958, but damn...

[marcello]

What got me interested is that Mike Fitzgerald put a collector/ researcher in touch with me because he knew I had a tape of this. I transfered it to cdr last night and wanted the best information, and this morning he ( C.J. "Kees" Hazevoet ) sent me this:

The date of the Byas recording is c. July 22, 1970 (not 1971). He played the

Jazz Showcase at the North Park Hotel in Chicago, 19 & 26 July 1970, and the

TV date was done in that week. I'm trying to get the precise date.

[DukeCity]

This is from 1958, but damn...

Yes, indeed! Anybody know Michel de Villers, the bari player in this video? What's his deal?

And saxophone geek question: What kind of horn is Byas playing in these vids? There's that weird thing on the neck octave vent...

[Caravan]

This is from 1958, but damn...

Yes, indeed! Anybody know Michel de Villers, the bari player in this video? What's his deal?

And saxophone geek question: What kind of horn is Byas playing in these vids? There's that weird thing on the neck octave vent...

Byas was playing a Dolnet, which had a custom made octave valve in the shape of a snake (with open mouth).

[DukeCity]

This is from 1958, but damn...

Yes, indeed! Anybody know Michel de Villers, the bari player in this video? What's his deal?

And saxophone geek question: What kind of horn is Byas playing in these vids? There's that weird thing on the neck octave vent...

Byas was playing a Dolnet, which had a custom made octave valve in the shape of a snake (with open mouth).

You're quite right. Thanks!

Here's a clearer pic:

I would think that would be a little disconcerting to be looking at while playing, but it sure didn't seem to bother DB!

[Niko]

This is from 1958, but damn...

Yes, indeed! Anybody know Michel de Villers, the bari player in this video? What's his deal?

And saxophone geek question: What kind of horn is Byas playing in these vids? There's that weird thing on the neck octave vent...

de villiers is on several of the jazz in paris discs: an octet ep led by him is on the "Saxophones a Saint-Germain-des-Prés" (which is great though his tracks pale a bit in comparison with the hubert fol and sonny criss eps on the same cd)

another leader date is on "Danse a Saint-Germain-des-Prés" which i haven't heard... he's also on lucky thompson with the dave pochonet all stars (great cd, but i have never paid attention to him, though i believe the sidemen get some solos...)

cheap:

http://www.amazon.com/Danse-Saint-Germain-...7977&sr=1-2

highly recommended:

http://www.amazon.com/Saxophones-Saint-Ger...8022&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Paris-Dave-Poch...8055&sr=1-1

[Big Beat Steve]

Have heard most of the Michel De Villiers material on those Jazz in Paris discs (and a bit more). No trailblazer maybe, but he certainly was no slouch either. Very solid, very swinging "modern mainstream" "Eurojazz" and really enjoyable if unpretentious, no-frills swinging music from that time is what you want.

Edited September 11, 2008 by Big Beat Steve

[marcello]

Here's a update including the missing title:

"JUST JAZZ" TV broadcast, Chicago

c. July 22, 1970

Don Byas, ts

Jodie Christian, p

Rufus Reid, b

Wilbur Campbell, d

1) Orgasm (a Byas original)

2) Tenderly

3) Autumn Leaves

4) Stella By Starlight

5) But Not For Me