Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 That is mine. How 'bout you? Quote
Harold_Z Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 That is mine. How 'bout you? I like it, but it might be beyond some bandleaders I've worked for. Quote
Neal Pomea Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 Music is whatever the RIAA tells me it is. Never mind. Good question! Can a cheer at a ballgame be music? Quote
Bright Moments Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 i'm not sure, but i know it when i hear it. Quote
paul secor Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 This isn't meant as a smartass answer. I let music define itself. Quote
GA Russell Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 I would say sound that is pleasing to the ear. If it's not, it's just noise. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Posted February 9, 2006 I would say sound that is pleasing to the ear. If it's not, it's just noise. Your definition means you bring lots of "baggage". Time to grow beyond and add new pleasures. Self limiting is a very negative thing. Quote
Joe G Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 Humans organize sound and call it "music", but once while walking in a stand of virgin pine in northern Michigan, I absolutely heard the sound of wind streaming through pine needles as music; thrilling music at that, like high strings in an adagio. Then there's birdsong, elk song, coyote song, etc. Another time (long time ago) I went to the local mall, and the minute I stepped inside, I heard what sounded like the wildest electric guitar duet ever - the two tones were swooping and diving like hawks, with a huge reverb on it. A second later I realized it was actually a couple of skilsaws being used somewhere down another wing. So any definition would have to be pretty broad, which the one in the subtitle is. Yes Chuck, I'm still the "dreamy mystic". Quote
DukeCity Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 OK, while I'm trying to form a serious answer, I'll say: Music is whatever Stanley Crouch tells Wynton to say it is. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Posted February 9, 2006 Yes Chuck, I'm still the "dreamy mystic". Close, but no cigar! Quote
7/4 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 There was a time when I was heavily into disorganised sound and I thought it was music. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Posted February 9, 2006 OK, while I'm trying to form a serious answer, I'll say: Music is whatever Stanley Crouch tells Wynton to say it is. You must be able to better. Quote
Joe G Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 Yes Chuck, I'm still the "dreamy mystic". Close, but no cigar! Close to what? Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Posted February 9, 2006 Yes Chuck, I'm still the "dreamy mystic". Close, but no cigar! Close to what? You are too close to my cigar. Please step back. Quote
Joe M Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 One could make the argument that even the most disorganized sound, actually IS organized, by the listener. Whether it's free improv with no form, or the sound of a string quartet playing Mozart, or the roar of the motorcycle going down the street right now, or John Cage, if the person hearing it considers it music, it is. I'm not sure I agree with that theory, but it's interesting. Quote
DukeCity Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 Actually, Chuck, I like the openness of your "organized sound" definition, but I have a little trouble with the "organized" part. Does it matter what the intent of the organization is? For example, a platoon of marching soldiers synchronizes the sound of thier boots to stay in step together. Is that, in an of itself, music? Or how about poetry. When spoken aloud, is it music? Or, on the other end of the organization question, is it possible to create music out of completely dis-organized sound? I don't know the musique concrete movement well enough to cite examples, but wasn't it kind of about having unorganized sound? Quote
(BB) Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 (edited) How does John Cage's 4'33" fit into this definition? Edited February 9, 2006 by (BB) Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Posted February 9, 2006 How does John Cage's 4'33" fit into this definition? Easily. Quote
(BB) Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 How does John Cage's 4'33" fit into this definition? Easily. Would you mind expanding a little... Quote
Guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 I think Joe G. is getting close, but still too geocentric. SETI project. How about some examination of the term "organized"? Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Posted February 9, 2006 How does John Cage's 4'33" fit into this definition? Easily. Would you mind expanding a little... That's up to you, not me. Quote
Joe G Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 I think Joe G. is getting close, but still too geocentric. SETI project. How about some examination of the term "organized"? "Organized" would imply intent. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Posted February 9, 2006 I think Joe G. is getting close, but still too geocentric. SETI project. How about some examination of the term "organized"? "Organized" would imply intent. Yes!!!!! or maybe. Quote
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