The Magnificent Goldberg Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 It would be King Curtis' 72nd birthday today, if he hadn't been murdered. I was listening to "It's party time with Jesse Powell" last night. And today the postman brought me Buddy Tate's "Groovin' with Tate" and the new David Newman album. Texas tenor players KICK ASS! Wilton Felder Illinois Jacquet Arnett Cobb Clifford Scott Booker Ervin Curtis Amy Don Wilkerson John Manning Wild Bill Moore Marchel Ivery James Clay Budd Johnson Harold Land Any more? MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Jim Sangrey Elias Haslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 (edited) Jim Sangrey Now there is somebody who wants to make sure and not get his assed kicked by a Texas tenor player. And let us not forget: HERSCHAL EVANS Edited February 7, 2006 by John L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 I'm not worried. I can outrun him, for short distances at least, and that's all either of us can handle. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 It would be King Curtis' 72nd birthday today, if he hadn't been murdered. I was listening to "It's party time with Jesse Powell" last night. And today the postman brought me Buddy Tate's "Groovin' with Tate" and the new David Newman album. Texas tenor players KICK ASS! Wilton Felder Illinois Jacquet Arnett Cobb Clifford Scott Booker Ervin Curtis Amy Don Wilkerson John Manning Wild Bill Moore Marchel Ivery James Clay Budd Johnson Harold Land Any more? MG David Fathead Newman: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Dewey Redman Ornette Coleman (part-time Texas tenor) Billy Harper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Billy Harper? Billy Harper! Kirk Whalum. I kid you not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 I'm not worried. I can outrun him, for short distances at least, and that's all either of us can handle. . . . If you run at all, you got me beat. I'm taking the lesson of The Old Bull to heart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Oh yeah - Shelley Carroll. Oh hell yeah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Julius Hemphill, when he played tenor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Louis Hubert, RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Jimmy Giuffre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 John Hardee. Frank Haynes was also a Texan, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 As are Jerry & Gibby... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Yes, but I doubt you could find this: in stock here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epistrophy arts Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Alex Coke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted February 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Billy Harper? Billy Harper! Kirk Whalum. I kid you not. Didn't know either was a Texan. Didn't know you were a tenor player, either, Jim. Didn't know Frank Haynes was from there, either. Completely forgot John Hardee and Herschel Evans! And I've never heard of Louis Hubert or Shelley Carroll. And who the hell are Jerry and Gibby? MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 if you can locate a copy of this one...grab it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeCity Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 This list wouldn't be complete without a mention of Bill Tillman. Just ask him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 (edited) And who the hell are Jerry and Gibby? MG Jerry Haynes = Mr. Peppermint, beloved Dallas area TV kiddie show host Gibby Haynes = Jerry's son, and lead singer / chief agent provocateur of Austin punknoise merchants The Butthole Surfers Neither one a tenor player, AFAIK. Side note for those posters with DFW ties... for some reason my family has not yet been able to determine, by all appearances, Mr. Peppermint attended my father's funeral in October of 2004. No one actually *saw* him in attendance, but the signature "Jerry Haynes" showed up in the guest register. No "Muffin", alas. Edited February 7, 2006 by Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I am surprised that no one has mentioned Buddy Tate !!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold_Z Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Or King Curtis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Or King Curtis. Look at the 1st sentence of the first post for King Curtis. For Mr. Tate, the 3rd sentence of the 1st post. Sort of the preamble to the list I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I've never heard of Louis Hubert... No shame there. Louis (I've also seen it spelled Lewis) was strictly "local" as far as jazz goes. He played w/BB King for years (on tenor and bari) and never did any jazz recordings. For years, playing parts on the road was what he did. But when he came off the road, ca. 1974-5, he settled in and decided to get his jazz playing together. And he did. As you might suspect, nobody could beat him on a medium blues. Nobody! Great guy to hang with, too. Some of us youngsters used to take him out for breakfast after the last set at The Recovery Room (where you'd often catch him sitting in w/Marchel) just to listen to his talk. Stories out the wazzoo, and one of the most genuinely warm cats I've ever known. He had a way of stirring sugar into his coffee that was one of the most elegant things I've ever seen in my life. Everything about him exuded style and true class. He passed away sometime in the early '80's, but his spirit still lives in those who knew him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 (edited) Though Charles Brackeen was born an Okie, he did play in Texas before moving out West. For whatever reason, I always put him in this category even though he's kinda been all over the place. Here's my two cents, via Prince Lasha: PL: ...Buster Smith was my director, and that’s where I got most of my stamina for playing the saxophone. It was so frightening standing next to him, because it seemed like the sound was coming up through the ground, up through the bottom of the horn and out through the bell. Being a young man, I was standing there [frightened] next to him for a couple of years; prior to that, we had jam sessions every Sunday in Fort Worth with James Clay, David “Fathead” Newman, and Leroy Cooper. AAJ: That’s the Texas sound that you, Ornette, Booker Ervin and others have, where it just feels like it’s coming up through the floor, and at least from my perspective, out through the speakers. It’s a really forceful thing. PL: I did the same experiment with Coltrane, Sonny Rollins and Eric [Dolphy], standing next to these men it seemed like it was coming up through the ground, up through the bottom of the horn and out the bell, and that’s one of the most mysterious, magical and frightening [things]. I stood next to ‘Trane that way, and next to Rollins that way (we worked in the Jazz Workshop, went to Boston; we were all over Chicago and at the Plugged Nickel, way before your days). Those are some of the things that used to take place, and this is why I suppose you’d said that about the Texas sound. AAJ: It’s unmistakable for anything else, and it seems like you can tell where somebody is from by how they sound on their horn. PL: Illinois Jacquet was from Texas too. There used to be a great player I traveled with named Scotty, and he could play with one arm tied behind his back — he really could play tenor, and he was from Houston also. Arnett Cobb, all those guys came up out of there. Edited February 8, 2006 by clifford_thornton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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