Dmitry Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 Saw this one used locally for about $90. Can anyone expand on the material, etc., just your impressions? I'm thinking of going back there tomorrow. Quote
Daniel Andresen Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 This is a great set I'd say BUY Quote
ejp626 Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 (edited) I think in the end it works out to 5 CDs of Duke's material and 3 of Ella. There are probably a few performances of her singing with his group but not too many. Here's a promotional blurb -- maybe she sings more with Duke than I remember. Anyway, some really nice music. Quote Product Description "Brings together a wealth of unissued material from Ella and Duke's most celebrated live recordings — by her trio and by his orchestra, as well as dazzling sets by their joint groups. Substantially expanding upon the previously reissued 2-CD Set, Ella & Duke at the Cote d'Azur. This deluxe, 8-CD package includes: * 96 Tracks, 78 issued for the first time * over 7 hours of music in all, plus the rehearsal on disc 8 * an entire disc devoted to a fascinating Ellington orchestra rehearsal Included are these classic songs associated with Ella and Duke: * Ella: "Misty", "Lullaby of Birdland" and "Jazz Samba" * Duke: "Such a Sweet Thunder", "Caravan", and "Rock and Rhythm" * Ella and Duke: "Cotton Tail", "Something To Live For" and "Mack the Knife" and many more! In addition to Ella and Duke, star soloists in these concerts include: * Lawrence Brown * Cootie Williams * Johnny Hodges * Paul Gonsalves * Cat Anderson * Ray Nance * Ben Webster The authoritative, 130-page booklet includes: * a candid, extensive interview by Peter Pullman with producer Norman Granz * an overview, by Michael Ullman, of the stars' careers * an analysis, by Ellington-scholar Brian Priestly, of the unissued material * a complete discography and list of solo identifications * many photographs from the concerts The price is a little high - can't remember what I paid - but when you figure in shipping a used copy, it works out about the same. Edited February 6, 2006 by ejp626 Quote
jazzbo Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 I think this is an okay price on a great box set! It is/was expensive new. I have actually been revisiting this set. I love the performances here, and there are some items rarely performed elsewhere on this set. Also, there is some great playing by then guests to the band Nance and (yes) Webster. And the Ella material is strong. The rehearsal disc is also quite fascinating. If you happen to be big on Ellington this is a set unlike others. Quote
Bluerein Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 (edited) To add something different than "great set" & "must buy"...... I had it and sold it because the playing of the Ellington band is very much below their standard (sloppy themes and missed notes, bad colectives, etc.). They must have been enjoying the riviera (with all the temptations available ie drugs, women, alcohol, etc.) but surely they didn't give their best performance wise. The tracks issued orriginally by Verve (Soul Call if I'm correct) are good but the rest not so imo. There's enough Ellington out there which is much much better. Edited February 6, 2006 by Bluerein Quote
jazzbo Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 Well, I kindof disagree, I really really enjoy that "looseness" of a lot of the Ellington band recordings --- I don't really feel it is "inferior". . . . It often adds a certain swing and, a bit of extra creativity to the soloists. Quote
catesta Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 jazzbo said: Well, I kindof disagree, I really really enjoy that "looseness" of a lot of the Ellington band recordings --- I don't really feel it is "inferior". . . . It often adds a certain swing and, a bit of extra creativity to the soloists. Agree. Quote
desertblues Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 The set is well worth having (IMHO anyway), but the price is a bit high. I got my copy of this one for about $60 on ebay last year. Quote
spinlps Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 Amazon sellers have it used for $75 and new for $80. Quote
RDK Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 I love this set too, but be warned that there's a fair amount of repetition each night. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 i picked up the single cd back in the day Quote
Alfred Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 Bluerein said: To add something different than "great set" & "must buy"...... I had it and sold it because the playing of the Ellington band is very much below their standard (sloppy themes and missed notes, bad colectives, etc.). They must have been enjoying the riviera (with all the temptations available ie drugs, women, alcohol, etc.) but surely they didn't give their best performance wise. The tracks issued orriginally by Verve (Soul Call if I'm correct) are good but the rest not so imo. There's enough Ellington out there which is much much better. Agree! I had it and sold it too. Quote
Ron S Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 Also available is this 2-CD Verve set (which is what I have) drawn from the same material, if you don't want to spring for 8 CDs of it: Quote
skeith Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 I had the 2 cd set and sold it so I guess I did not think it was so great. I have a vague memory that in the liner notes it said that Ella had lost someone quite close to her on the very eve of these performances and that may have negatively affected her performance on these sides. Quote
Ron S Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 skeith said: I have a vague memory that in the liner notes it said that Ella had lost someone quite close to her on the very eve of these performances and that may have negatively affected her performance on these sides. Her half-sister with whom she had been very close, I believe. Also, I don't remember comments about her performances being negatively affected, but rather about her professionalism in giving good performances under difficult personal circumstances. I've never seen any criticism of Ella's performances on these dates--only of the Ellington band's (along the lines seen in this thread). Quote
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