Kenny Dorham "private" dates

[Big Beat Steve]

Thanks for your comments. I was just puzzled that the fact that there are two tapes in circulation where one tape has additional tracks (beyond the idential tracks on both tapes) would necessarily mean that there were two sets played. So if I got you right you presume that the additional tracks that are one tape only come from a second set that was payed?

[Dan Gould]

Thanks for the insight David, my copy of the recording that does circulate came from the opener of this thread, MartyJazz. He had dozens of reels that I digitized for him - this must have been nearly 20 years ago.

[Big Beat Steve]

1 hour ago, Big Beat Steve said:

... So if I got you right you presume that the additional tracks that are one tape only come from a second set that was payed?

Typo correction:
... that the additional tracks that are on one tape only come from a second set that was played

[Kevin Bresnahan]

2 hours ago, Dan Gould said:

Thanks for the insight David, my copy of the recording that does circulate came from the opener of this thread, MartyJazz. He had dozens of reels that I digitized for him - this must have been nearly 20 years ago.

MartyJazz hasn't posted since 2018. Does anyone know if he's still around?

[bertrand]

On 3/8/2025 at 11:45 AM, david weiss said:

I'm not saying they played the same tunes on the 2nd set just that there were probably 2 sets played and perhaps only one of them circulated (or the music was recorded on 2 reels of tape and only one circulated). I imagine when this music and the Freddie Hubbard albums are released, there will be a story in the booklet about the guy who organized these gigs and recorded the music. This is a case where we know the origins of these recordings as they have been with the guy who recorded them from day one and he has been in possession of them the whole time. These tapes were not widely circulated but I know the musicians had copies at least. I first heard the Freddie Hubbard tape at Freddie Hubbard's house years ago. I also know a few of them were shopped years ago so it's possible someone made copies. I also got a cassette of part of the Kenny Dorham gig years ago as I remember transcribing KD's solos on Blue Bossa and Bag's Groove. As for this KD recording. I can't quite figure out the original order but there seems to be two sets as there are two different announcements at the beginning of sets and another announcement bringing Joe Lee Wilson to the stage. All the instrumental tracks seem to be on this release as with the Freddie Hubbard. Perhaps the liner notes will clear some things up. I'm still curious how they decided it was Dennis Charles on drums when the announcer clearly says Huss Charles.

I guess we will find out on record store day. If Zev has an event at Joe's Record Paradise, I will try to go and ask what's up.

Trumpeter Fabien Mary did a great tribute to KD tonight at Sunside in Paris.

Edited 18 hours ago by bertrand