Kenny Dorham "private" dates

[MartyJazz]

I'd like to clarify the details of a date KD did in the spring of '67. I have two open reel tapes of mostly identical music, but with contradictory location data. Personnel is KD (tp); Sonny Red (as); Cedar Walton (p), Paul Chambers (b); unknown drums; add Joe Lee Wilson* (vcl) on last track.

1. Bags' Groove

2. Blue Bossa

3. Four/The Theme

4) *I'll Remember April

One tape has the complete set as above with the location as "The Blue Morocco", Bronx, NY, April 16, 1967.

The other tape is missing track #4 and has the location as "Minton's", NYC, sometime in '67.

Anyone, e.g., Michael F., have the correct data on this? Googling only produces studio dates.

[JSngry]

Can't help you with dates, but doesn't Wilson also sing on "Four"?

[brownie]

Marty, Claude Schlouch's discography of Kenny Dorham has this session dated April 10, 1967. Recorded at Minton's.

Drummer is Hersh Charles.

Claude also lists Joe Lee Wilson as singing on ''I'll Remember April', 'What's New' and 'Four'.

Claude will fill in on details, I'm sure.

[Claude Schlouch]

Kenny Dorham (tp, ann), David Newman (ts, fl), Ronnie Matthews (p), Paul Chambers (b), Otis Finch (dm), unknown (ann)

Blue Morocco, New York City, April 1967

I love you 16:37

Straight ahead 7:43

Walkin’ 12:59

Blues 10:30

announcement by Kenny Dorham 0:16

Mañha de carnaval (Black Orpheus) 6:45

announcement by Kenny Dorham 0:03

Kenny Dorham (tp), Sonny Red (as), Cedar Walton (p), Paul Chambers (b), Hersh Charles (dm), Joe Lee Wilson (voc, ann)

Minton’s, New York City, April 10, 1967

Bag’s groove 14:07

Blue bossa 12:45

I’ll remember April-vocJLW 8:04

What’s new?-vocJLW 6:20

Four-vocJLW 5:43

The theme 7:45

[brownie]

Question now, who was drummer Hersh Charles? This Minton's gig seems to be his only appearance anywhere.

Anybody knows?

[MartyJazz]

My thanks to one and all, especially Claude Schlouch for clarifying these dates and personnel. It appears that the tapes I have of each of these sessions are incomplete, a situation I hope to rectify.

[jcam_44]

Is this the new RSD from resonance?

[Dan Gould]

4 hours ago, jcam_44 said:

Is this the new RSD from resonance?

While there are tune similarities I don't think so. 

That RSD issue is far and away the one for me, assuming its new or that sound is extremely improved.

[aparxa]

 

On 2/4/2006 at 1:04 PM, Claude Schlouch said:

Kenny Dorham (tp, ann), David Newman (ts, fl), Ronnie Matthews (p), Paul Chambers (b), Otis Finch (dm), unknown (ann)

Blue Morocco, New York City, April 1967

 

I love you 16:37

Straight ahead 7:43

Walkin’ 12:59

Blues 10:30

announcement by Kenny Dorham 0:16

Mañha de carnaval (Black Orpheus) 6:45

announcement by Kenny Dorham 0:03

 

 

 

Kenny Dorham (tp), Sonny Red (as), Cedar Walton (p), Paul Chambers (b), Hersh Charles (dm), Joe Lee Wilson (voc, ann)

Minton’s, New York City, April 10, 1967

 

Bag’s groove 14:07

Blue bossa 12:45

I’ll remember April-vocJLW 8:04

What’s new?-vocJLW 6:20

Four-vocJLW 5:43

The theme 7:45

Sorry to report that our friend Claude, one of the authorities on all things Kenny Dorham, has left us about a month ago.

[JSngry]

RIP Claude.

[Dan Gould]

30 minutes ago, aparxa said:

 

Sorry to report that our friend Claude, one of the authorities on all things Kenny Dorham, has left us about a month ago.

That is sad news. He was always generous with his knowledge.

 

[mjzee]

R.I.P.

[mikeweil]

Oh yes, R.I.P.

[HutchFan]

R.I.P.

 

[Kevin Bresnahan]

https://www.libramemoria.com/defunts/schlouch-claude/07d95cda5782466190b8425667ff1a3c

RIP Claude. I'll miss his posts.

Here's the Record Store Day release info: https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/18870

Tracklist
SIDE A:
1. Introduction
2. Blue Bossa
SIDE B:
3. Confirmation
SIDE C
4. Bag's Groove
5. Memories of You
SIDE D
6. Uptempo Blues
7. The Theme

[GA Russell]

RIP Claude!