"Organs"

[Jazz Kat]

I been thinking about making either piano or guitar my main instrument. I guess I'm meeting half way. I always loved that greasy sound. I been learning some organ technique. My keyboard has a pretty lame organ sound, and I'm sick of calling myself a so called "organist" and not even own one. I'm looking for something close to an organ. Either like a portable organ or some kind of electric keyboard that has a REALLY authentic organ sound and is easily affortable; something like in the 300-700 dollar range. Any recommendations?

[catesta]

I thought this thread was going to be about kidneys and stuff like that.

[Jazz Kat]

How about any kind of modules that have organ sounds that i could perhaps put into my keyboard and into my amp to make it sound like a real b-3?

[Soulstation1]

tried local papers / musician trade mags?

organ / piano shops in your area?

[Jazz Kat]

Not yet. I want to go into the store with some kind of information on what to look for.

Edited December 30, 2005 by Jazz Kat

[Soulstation1]

http://www.prevailingwinds.net/agelist/agelist.php

jim turned me on to this site

it has the different features of each hammond and keys for determining the years it was manufactured

[Soulstation1]

http://b3hammond.com/sale/default.asp

good site for window shopping

Edited December 30, 2005 by Soulstation1

[Peter Johnson]

Cool site! SS1, did you add yourself to the "register" (pun intended)?

http://www.prevailingwinds.net/agelist/agelist.php

jim turned me on to this site

it has the different features of each hammond and keys for determining the years it was manufactured

[Jazz Kat]

Phaser

Would this work?

[Soulstation1]

mine is a 1964 A-1oo serial number 36,9??, i'd be after barry foster

i'd have to pull out my organ out ...(hehe) to get the last 2 digits

did you notice jim's name on the b3 list?

[Peter Johnson]

I did--twice! Lucky bastid!

mine is a 1964 A-1oo serial number 36,9??, i'd be after barry foster

i'd have to pull out my organ out ...(hehe) to get the last 2 digits

did you notice jim's name on the b3 list?

[Soulstation1]

Phaser

Would this work?

only james knows for sure...lol

[Soulstation1]

i still can't play the damn thing, it just collects dust

[Jazz Kat]

Just get a book. Learn some chords, some scales, and some heads. It onyl took me about a year to get decent, so if you practice hard, you'll master it.

[Soulstation1]

one day i'd like to be able to play the intro to Moanin'

that would be the shiznett

[Jazz Kat]

Well, that's a pretty simple song. I forget what key it's in. I think it might be in the same key as blue train, or it might be an f blues. You can do it.

[Soulstation1]

as i've said before

i have no musical skillzzz whatsoever

[Jazz Kat]

"The greatest obstacle to enlightment is laziness," Buddha.

[Soulstation1]

"Weed is from the earth. God put this here for me and you. Take advantage man, take advantage." Smokey - Friday DVD

[Alexander Hawkins]

Well, that's a pretty simple song. I forget what key it's in. I think it might be in the same key as blue train, or it might be an f blues. You can do it.

I think it's in whatever key you want to play it in, actually.

Although in fairness, usually F (as you say) in my experience.

To answer the question, I sometimes play a Viscount DB3. This has drawbars, so might be a good way to get used to learning your own registrations. It has a good touch, and is also available as a module. It's also much cheaper than other models.

However, what proper organists will correctly tell you is that just because it looks a little like a piano doesn't mean it can be dabbled in...it's very much it's own instrument. The techniques are ultimately very different.

[Jazz Kat]

Definately. That's the main reason why i quit piano. They are two completely different instruments; in sound and technique.

When i was talking about what key it's in, I meant the key of the original recording.

[Jim Alfredson]

The cheapest alternative to a B3 that you're going to find would probably be an M3. It uses the same theory of operation (tonewheels) but just less of them. It doesn't really have a bass octave except for an octave of small pedals (much smaller than real B3 pedals). That's what I learned on, though. It has drawbars, the percussion feature, chorus/vibrato, etc. I used to put a synth on top and play left hand bass lines on that using a very simple patch that emulated the B3's bass.

They are usually very cheap. Under $400 and as little as $150 sometimes. They have a built-in speaker so you don't even need an amp or Leslie. An M100 is another good alternative, almost the same as an M3.

Edited December 30, 2005 by Jim Alfredson

[Alexander Hawkins]

When i was talking about what key it's in, I meant the key of the original recording.

Fair enough! Didn't mean to sound sarcastic with my remark - just short of time, and it came out wrong!

Don't know what Jim would make of this, but you might want to think about keeping the piano up, at least at first - a LOT more gigs going, I'd have thought...

[Jazz Kat]

The cheapest alternative to a B3 that you're going to find would probably be an M3. It uses the same theory of operation (tonewheels) but just less of them. It doesn't really have a bass octave except for an octave of small pedals (much smaller than real B3 pedals). That's what I learned on, though. It has drawbars, the percussion feature, chorus/vibrato, etc. I used to put a synth on top and play left hand bass lines on that using a very simple patch that emulated the B3's bass.

They are usually very cheap. Under $400 and as little as $150 sometimes. They have a built-in speaker so you don't even need an amp or Leslie. An M100 is another good alternative, almost the same as an M3.

Where would I go about finding one?

[Jazz Kat]

HOLY CRAP LOOK WHAT I FOUND, IS THIS GOOD??